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Who will represent the Western Conference in the NBA Finals?

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MEM gets: Rudy + Collison
DEN gets : Cousins + Carter + #6 + Udrih
SAC gets: Ty Lawson, Jeff Green, Faried, Kosta (S&T)

Make it happen.

Karl gets his old team back basically, Grizz get Rudy back, Denver gets Cousins and another lottery pick.
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MEM gets: Rudy + Collison
DEN gets : Cousins + Carter + #6 + Udrih
SAC gets: Ty Lawson, Jeff Green, Faried, Kosta (S&T)

Make it happen.

Karl gets his old team back basically, Grizz get Rudy back, Denver gets Cousins and another lottery pick.
Kings give up Cousins, Gay, Collison, and the 6th pick for Lawson,Green,Faried and Koufas? 

Stop the drugs friend
 
Kings give up Cousins, Gay, Collison, and the 6th pick for Lawson,Green,Faried and Koufas? 

Stop the drugs friend

Obviously, the Kings franchise are those ones on drugs, which makes the deal even more likely. :x

I actually meant to take off the #6 pick. :lol:
 
it wasn't him it was the Talent.

96 GP (best defensive guard in the league not named MJ) had to TELL HIM he was guarding him in the finals regardless of what he drew up. What happened to that 97 Sonic's team with all of the same players?

01 Bucks Cassell pulled that team together and got them there just like he did with KG & Spree Twolves

09 Nuggets Chauncey brought that team together and made them great. He also went on record stating Karl didn't draw up plays during crucial moments which drove him crazy.

Either way you shake it, that's George Karl...with 3 different teams....makings the finals and conference finals.

He's the one constant there.

A great coach may have adjusted, but the end result would have been the same. 96 Sonics maxed out, 01 Bucks maxed out, 09 Nuggets maxed out.
 
Instead of building around Cousins, Karl thinks it's a brilliant idea to trade him :smh:

If the relationship is irreconcilable...its irreconcilable. One of them has to go.

I understand Karl's position here. It's up to ownership to make the call on what's best for the franchise.

I say you gotta trade him. You fire Karl and there's no guarantee Boogie gets along with the next coach. He's clearly getting impatient so like I said earlier...why delay the inevitable. That team is far away from being competitive in the West. There's no easy button they can press to build around him. We all know he's going to force his way out sooner than later...so do what's best for both parties and ship him out.
 
It was over when they fired Malone. Dan Fegan was already planning the exit strategy.  Given George Karl's past, he's a perfect scapegoat
 
We can agree to disagree i guess because I'd much rather try and build through mid to late lottery picks where at least you might hit a homerun or can potentially stock up assets for trades than be stuck in neutral.

Building thru mid to late lottery picks is terrible man. You might strike a Gordon Hayward or Paul George. Most times you won't. You're either really bad...our your good in the NBA. 30-40 wins is purgatory.

What's the difference between what Memphis and Houston have been the last 5 or 6 years and what Denver was during Karl's tenure? Win a lot of games in the regular season. Get bounced in the first round. Catch a few matchup breaks and have a chance at a WCF?

You're telling me you won't take THAT success over taking mid to late lottery picks for a decade +?
 
That AI story :smh: :smh: wow. Props to him for sticking it out for the fans I would've left the country as soon as the shady business started. Chinese govt be on their snake biz.
 
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Just spoke with a very irritated Vlade Divac. Said he is not trading Cousins, and denies Karl pushing for any deal involving All-Star center
 
That was what I needed to find the real gems. Heres some vintage CP George Karl slander:
My man, I know MDA ain't the greatest, but you sure you done your homework on G Karl? Positive?

Tell me, which of the 8 first round exits in 9 years excites you the most? Was it the one he lost to Mike Brown? The one he lost to Mark Jackson (making his playoff debut, with a bunch of first time playoff performers). Was it the Melo years, where they would go out in 5 games? What works for you?

I know you like that regular season mark he got, it's sexy ain't it? .599 winning percentage lookin good don't it? I know, I hear ya.

BUt tell me, does that playoff record concern you at all? You know, that one where is absolute best single year winning perctage was a 10-6 record? That .432% mark, it ain't so hot now is it?


The guy don't win man. He does fine in the regular year, but come playoff time, when teams spend 2 weeks studying your every move, they adjust and Karl can't match it. It's proven every, single, year.

Karl is the hot chick, like an 8, girl looks right in all the right places, fills out that bra nicely, got them yoga pants lookin TASTY.

Then you slip all them clothes off and climb aboard, and the ***** don't move right. 
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 She don't move her legs in the right places, can't get no rythym goin, got your stroke all choked up, it's all bumpy and rough waters, just a plain mess. So you try somethin else, maybe she'll tongue ya down or somethin, make it right that way, only her teeth all in the way, scratchin you and ****. Squeezin your pair like she's tryin to break them outta jail or somethin, got you gaspin for breath and what not, just tryin to get her clothes back on so she look good again. She's an 8 in clothes, but a -2 in bed.

Don't nobody got time for that. We don't want that ****. We want a 7.5 in clothes, and a 38 when the lights go out. Someone that leaves you out of breath. Beggin for more. Girl that can straighten you out with a single touch.

Find that coach b. That's who we want.


You feel me?
http://niketalk.com/t/534657/offseason-over-lock-please/1470
Awww man, again? Can’t someone just copy and paste one of my old ones? It still applies.

Cliff notes are better.

Dude has made the playoffs a ton. He has more one and dones than Peyton Manning does.

Karl has lost in the first round with home court as a 1 seed, a 2 seed, a 3 seed and a 4 seed. Meaning he spreads his suck around.

He’s made 3 “runs” in like 20+ years. The 96 Sonics, one of his Bucks squads (01???) and the 09 Nuggets.

He’s coached like 25+ years and somehow has a losing record in the playoffs, when you really only need to win one single series every once in a while to pad your stats, he can’t even do that.

Damn near every other damn team he’s had is out in round 1 like clockwork. With a whimper no less.

He lost two games in the 09 Conference Finals when he couldn’t get his team to inbound the ball properly. TWO!!

He was down 3-0 before he decided to put his best defensive player on the other team’s best offensive player. Then they suddenly won two games. 
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He’s great from November thru mid April. Once it says “playoffs” before every game, he’s done. Not sure if he’s planning his vacations, or what.

Now he’s running the Sacramento Kings. What could go wrong there?


Heh, only took about 90 seconds to type this, I didn’t really do much review work or anything, so I may be off a stat or two. I apologize.
http://niketalk.com/t/608612/the-20...golden-state-warriors-are-the-champions/71490
 
The actual totals now that I have a minute.

He has a .600 winning percentage in the regular season, but he's TWENTY FIVE games below .500 in the playoffs. 
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The year he won coach of the year, he lost in round 1. Year before that, round 1. Year before that, round 1, year before that, are you gettin the picture?



How do you have a 600 winning percentage over the course of 1,900 regular season games, but in 200 playoff games you have a .432????? And that's WITH homecourt most years, against lesser teams.


He's great in 82 games. He's horrible in 7 game sets when all you have to do is study and focus on his team for 2 weeks. He can't adjust and attack your weaknesses, and he damn sure can't stop you from attacking his. When you have 24 hours to fly from New York to Boston to then wherever Karl coaches, yeah, he can beat you cuz you haven't had time to look at his team. When you do, it's a wrap. Every year.
http://niketalk.com/t/608612/the-20...golden-state-warriors-are-the-champions/71490
 
kings keep their lottery pick + pick up lawson and faried who are more proven than clarkson and randle (also karl wants them)

denver keeps their lottery pick and gets cousins, cap relief, and the 18th pick

My deal better because the Kings actually get Karl's starting center from their 55 win team byke in Koufos.

Lets goooooooooo
 
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