THE 2015 NBA PRE SEASON THREAD: BEST WISHES TO LAMAR ODOM

[casper90403]

yeah, Clarkson going to get a ton after this season ($15M+). Lakers will gladly pay it.

He;ll have even more help with Russell and Randle. I expect a 18pts, 5 rebs, 7 assists type of line.

and, very importantly, he has a great head on his shoulders. Great point guard leadership.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Dog, if Clarkson gets 15 a year.. even with the higher cap 

 

[xbiker47]

Dog, if Clarkson gets 15 a year.. even with the higher cap 

agreed

 

[nick.]

i can see Clarkson getting at least 4/$40M

 

[kingjaffejo]

Only time will tell. It's crazy how far he fell in the draft.
Goes to show you, you never know...

 

[comptonprince]

i can see Clarkson getting at least 4/$40M

Shumpert got thaT and JC waaaay better than him he will get between 13-15M

 

[casper90403]

4/$40 would be too low. He's going to get way more, and playing for a team that needs players helps his cause. I think $12M will be that average player level with the new cap coming.

I think I'm his biggest cheerleader.

 

[pmatic]

Get familiar with the Arenas Provision in regards to Jordan Clarkson's free agency next summer...

 

[casper90403]

Shumpert got thaT and JC waaaay better than him he will get between 13-15M

EXACTLY.

 

[og lil nut]

Wrong thread

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Get familiar with the Arenas Provision in regards to Jordan Clarkson's free agency next summer...

Which is? I'm assuming some sort of 2nd round selection thing

 

[casper90403]

Get familiar with the Arenas Provision in regards to Jordan Clarkson's free agency next summer...

you are right about that, I keep thinking Draymond Green played 2 years, not 3. JC will need to play one more year to get that kind of money. Thats going to make it even more, but he'll probably take the guarantee.

Can a player sign a 3 year deal with player opt out after 1? I haven't seen that, so i think the answer is no

 

[nick.]

4/$40 would be too low. He's going to get way more, and playing for a team that needs players helps his cause. I think $12M will be that average player level with the new cap coming.

I think I'm his biggest cheerleader.

$12M per sounds fair with the rising cap

 

[casper90403]

Which is? I'm assuming some sort of 2nd round selection thing

The Lakers can only offer him $5M, or around there, for the 1st year of the new deal. Something like that. Thats why Gilbert left to the Wiz because the Warriors couldn't match that. they put the provision in so home team can now keep their players

 

[casper90403]

Gilbert Arenas provision:
The NBA introduced the Gilbert Arenas provision in the 2005 Collective Bargaining Agreement as a way to help teams to keep their young restricted free agents who aren't coming off rookie scale contracts. It was named after Gilbert Arenas, an Early Bird free agent for the Warriors in 2003, who signed an offer sheet with the Wizards starting at about $8.5MM. Because Golden State could only offer Arenas a first-year salary of about $4.9MM using the Early Bird exception, the Warriors were unable to match the offer sheet and lost Arenas to Washington.

The Arenas provision limits the first-year salary that teams can offer restricted free agents who have only been in the league for one or two years. The starting salary for an offer sheet can't exceed the amount of the non-taxpayer mid-level exception, which allows the player's original team to use its MLE to match it. Otherwise, a team without the necessary cap space or exceptions would be powerless to keep its player, like the Warriors were with Arenas.

A rival offer sheet can still have an average annual salary that exceeds the non-taxpayer MLE, however. The annual raises are limited to 4.5% between years one and two, and 4.1% between years three and four, but a significant raise can be included between the second and third years of the offer. A team's cap space dictates the average annual salary limit for the entire contract, since the average salary still has to fit under the cap

 

[pmatic]

Get familiar with the Arenas Provision in regards to Jordan Clarkson's free agency next summer...

Which is? I'm assuming some sort of 2nd round selection thing

It's for non-first round picks coming off a two year contract.

Their starting salaries can only start at the non-taxpayer MLE, which will be like $5.6M for 2016-17 (projected). But it can climb up like dramatically between years two and three. Weird loophole that Morey took advantage of in 2012 with Asik and Lin.

Get familiar with the Arenas Provision in regards to Jordan Clarkson's free agency next summer...

you are right about that, I keep thinking Draymond Green played 2 years, not 3. JC will need to play one more year to get that kind of money. Thats going to make it even more, but he'll probably take the guarantee.

Can a player sign a 3 year deal with player opt out after 1? I haven't seen that, so i think the answer is no

No.

If they're signing a contract with a player option, they opt out the year before the contract expires.

 

[casper90403]

It's for non-first round picks coming off a two year contract.

Their starting salaries can only start at the non-taxpayer MLE, which will be like $5.6M for 2016-17 (projected). But it can climb up like dramatically between years two and three. Weird loophole that Morey took advantage of in 2012 with Asik and Lin.
No.

If they're signing a contract with a player option, they opt out the year before the contract expires.

Makes sense. Otherwise, you could just sign a 5 year deal with a player option after year 1! Would be the best of both worlds for each player.

Sorry for the silly question. I knew the answer but was curious

 

[pmatic]

Here's Clarkson's options next summer:

Then the Lakers will hold Clarkson's "early Bird" rights, creating a complicated set of scenarios, four in all.

1) The first is simple, and unlikely. Clarkson could accept the team's qualifying offer of up to $2.7 million for 2016-17 but would be a restricted free agent once again after that season.

2) The Lakers can re-sign Clarkson via his early Bird rights for up to four years and roughly $25 million. This option could help the Lakers preserve spending power for other free agents, but wouldn't be as lucrative a choice for the player.

3) Clarkson can be brought back using the Lakers' valuable cap space. A maximum contract for four years could amount to more than $95 million. In this scenario, Clarkson eats up roughly $22 million of the team's spending power in 2016 — instead of the $2.7-million qualifying offer. This path greatly limits the Lakers' flexibility in shopping for other players.

4) Because of a quirk in the rules, often referred to as the "Gilbert Arenas provision," other franchises are limited to signing Clarkson as a restricted free agent to a four-year offer sheet as high as $57 million. The limitation on what other teams can offer Clarkson decidedly puts the Lakers in the driver's seat, should re-signing him at a high dollar amount become the priority.

Whatever the decision with Clarkson, the timing is crucial as the franchise looks to re-establish itself as a power in the Western Conference.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-lakers-fyi-20150405-story.html

So in all likeyhood, Clarkson will be a very good value on his next contract for the Lakers.

 

[comptonprince]

Get familiar with the Arenas Provision in regards to Jordan Clarkson's free agency next summer...

Explain homie?

Nvm I see it 

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

So from those 4 options, I'm assuming #4 is the best option for LA and the most realistic? 

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

4/$40 would be too low. He's going to get way more, and playing for a team that needs players helps his cause. I think $12M will be that average player level with the new cap coming.

I think I'm his biggest cheerleader.

It's a toss up between me, you and @ChampCruThik

 

[essential1]

Get familiar with the Arenas Provision in regards to Jordan Clarkson's free agency next summer...

Was just going to post it.

Anywho most another team can offer him is 4 year / $57mil. As posted.

He'll be a Laker for 5 more seasons at least.

 

[casper90403]

I think #4 is most realistic, but somehow, I feel like team JC will not feel all that great about that one.

How did Draymond sign a 5 year $80M deal after his 3rd season? assuming JC can do the same? But based on the scenarios above, it doesn't seem like the case.

 

[casper90403]

It's a toss up between me, you and @ChampCruThik

I'll fight you

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

I'm still curious about dray's contract. Bruh got a 5 year deal with an opt out after every year?