THE 2015 NBA PRE SEASON THREAD: BEST WISHES TO LAMAR ODOM

Who will represent the Western Conference in the NBA Finals?

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awwsome said:
I don't think anybody was arguing that giving up a 1st for Payne was a good move.
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Im in the T-Wolves thread and someone said they got Payne "for basically nothing". They think im overley negative I just call it as I see it.
 
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Osh Kosh Bosh said:
Yeah luck is involved but Morey always is ready and prepared with the assets to take advantage of someone else desperation.
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so much this.

yeah basketball reasons changed everything. we were gonna get pau gasol, then sign nene and have that be our frontcourt (which plausibly still could have been pretty good), and when that fell through we still ended up with harden. you just can't dismiss the whole body of work involved.

for instance, we had the assets to give up to get ty lawson, and on top of that we got lawson to agree to make his next year non guaranteed. little things like that, all while refusing to tank are why i think morey deserves high praises.
 
leemelone said:
I give Morey some credit but until you win championship(s) you're not that good
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exactly. they overrating morey like a mug mug. get a chip and then you're a genius gm.


i remember when everybody was on Ainge nuts last year with all the leverage and picks he was setting up, and then they watched this season, he gave all them joints away for paper towels.
 
Speaking as a poster who's always beating the drum that it's better to be lucky than good in today's NBA I welcome all the luck that Morey has been blessed with post basketball reasons. Especially when he's on record saying if the Harden trade didn't go down the team would've went into full blown tank mode ala Philly. It wasn't said but maybe it would've been to extend his job security the way Hinkie has.
 
Freeze said:
exactly. they overrating morey like a mug mug. get a chip and then you're a genius gm.


i remember when everybody was on Ainge nuts last year with all the leverage and picks he was setting up, and then they watched this season, he gave all them joints away for paper towels.
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Bruh was looking like a bumbling idiot in all those post draft interviews
 
leemelone said:
Claiming it's mostly luck is such a doc rivers thing to say
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You really stay riding me with the subshots. For what reason, I don't know 
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http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports....t-of-proportion-same-with-knicks-non-meeting/

There’s a theory that LaMarcus Aldridge always knew what team he would choose this summer. He took the meetings, had a few nice steak dinners, but so long as the Spurs could work the cap situation out, he was coming to San Antonio.

True or not, those other meetings became big stories — particularly the Lakers meeting, which did not go well at all. The Lakers pitch was reportedly heavy on selling Los Angeles as a marketing and lifestyle destination — but Aldridge already has a home in the area (Orange County), they needed to sell him on basketball but didn’t. The Lakers went from being one of the co-favorites to land him to being voted off the island. The Lakers got a second meeting, but it didn’t change things.

Then Aldridge didn’t even meet with the Knicks.

Both of those were huge stories, but Aldridge told Basketball Insiders it got blown out of proportion.

“With the Lakers, it wasn’t anything crazy,” Aldridge said. “It was just the [first] meeting didn’t go as well as I wanted it to, so I did another one. People blew it out of proportion about things happening in the meeting. That wasn’t correct. It just didn’t go as good as I wanted it to so I had one more….

“About the New York Knicks, they told me that they wanted me to play strictly
,” Aldridge said. “So they didn’t want to meet with me. People was saying it was me, but it was both parties agreeing that we shouldn’t meet.”



Why the second meeting with the Lakers? Because Aldridge’s agent Arn Tellem has an excellent relationship with GM Mitch Kupchak and the Lakers, he’s has done a lot of business with them and would like to do more in the future, and how that story broke nationally was an embarrassment to the Lakers. Online and on sports talk radio, discussion of what the Lakers were doing wrong in their pitch meetings became a thing. Tellem was looking for a way for the organization to save face.

As for the Lakers pitch being light on basketball, what could they sell him right now? They had won 21 games the past season, and their hope for the future on the court — D’Angello Russell, Jordan Clarkson, Julius Randle — were years away from helping the team contend for a title. Kobe Bryant is a legend but is entering likely his final season. The rest of the cupboard was pretty bare. Even with Aldridge (and another max free agent to come in the next couple years) this team was years away. Aldridge is 30 years old, he can’t wait around for that to come together. The on-the-court pitch was doomed before it started.

Or, maybe I’m just blowing it all out of proportion like Aldridge said.​
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