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Who will represent the Western Conference in the NBA Finals?

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and what rules are we playing in? Thats important. The soft new era basketball, or the old school basketball? A lot of current dudes would shrivel up if they had to play with the old NBA way of doing things.

Let me first apologize to anyone who's offended with me calling the NBA soft now. Don't want anything to feel like I'm belittling them. That has potential to get some feelings hurt
Street ball rules on a concrete court
 
I'm sorry but you are wrong about Magic Johnson not being good still by 1992, he was at a different stage than Bird4

Have you watched the 1992 Olympics relative to his 1991 NBA Finals performance?
 
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Lol this guy. Do you know what belittle means? was there no dictionarys back in your time? you said you wouldn't take a person's opinion serious if he was young during that era, how is that not belittling someone's opinion?

Just cause they played dirty defense and allowed hand checking back in that era doesn't mean its a better brand of defense. Some may even argue that its way EASIER to play defense if you had that luxury. Go wash your face grandpa

You;re (insert any bad word). Thats belittling.

Again, all I said was its ridiculous of me to have a discussion about something with someone who was 4 at the time of the event. I felt like I was doing the right thing and not debating with that person.

And you're adding more to it by saying I wouldn't take a persons opinion serious if he was young. Thats not exactly what I said. I said I would be an idiot for having that discussion. I don't go talking about Wilt Chamberlain because I wasn't around at that time. You need to take a look at what caused that discussion. It was apparent someone looked at a box score and said Shaq did well against Hakeem. I think we can agree box scores don't mean everything.

And again, all i said, AND I THINK IT WAS A VERY VALID POINT, was what era of rules are they playing? Thats kind of important. The old dudes would have a hard time playing in this era's rules because they are use to playing dirty aggressive, and vice versa. What was wrong with that? You had to follow you comment about that subject with go wash your face grandpa?

I think you're getting offended at everything I'm saying. Stop being so sensitive. But I can see why you are. What I'm saying really is for people like you. The truth hurts for some people.
 
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woah now.

ease on the namecalling.

the r word is going waaaay too far. Edit that before Ska or another mod gives you a warning
 
You're forgetting the topic of the argument.
You put 1992 Magic up against the 2012 team and he is nowhere near as good as he was in the olympics.
Dude was in the final stretch of his career. Bird too.

Bird, yes.

But 19.5 points, 7 rebounds and 12 assists is the final stretch?

So we're talking everyone is in their prime? I didn't know. Just thought we were talking at that given time.

Too hypothetical now.
 
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prime magic

prime mike

prime bird

prime barkley

prime robinson

vs

prime kidd

prime kobe

prime kd

prime lebron

prime dwight

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[quote name="sea manup"]I just meant the teams that played in the Olympics when I said primes.

Just so no one would use the "dream team is a bunch of washed up 60 year olds" argument[/quote]In that case, 96 takes 92.

And 12.
 
In that case, 96 takes 92.

And 12.

Would it though? Take aways the players from both because they wash themselves out (Barkley, Stockton, Drob, Malone, Pippen).

That leaves '96: Richmond, GP, Penny, Grant, Miller, Dream, Shaq

vs.

'92: Bird, MJ, Magic, Ewing, Clyde, Mullin, Laettner,

Man, Laettner really dumbs it down.

I still feel like its '92 under the terms we're speaking of. But I have a feeling I'm still not understanding the topic being discussed.
 
It looked like you were throwing a jab at me with the last part but I don't think you get what you're doing or how it looks like to someone else. You saying you won't take time to discuss or debate with someone that happened in the past when they're young, regardless if they spent hours or days researching or watching full games, like a basketball junkie would do. How is that not belittle and your example of what belittle shows you don't know what it means exactly :rofl:

You saying you won't discuss with them implies you don't think their opinion is important or you think it's not worth your time. How is that not belittling their opinion?
 
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It looked like you were throwing a jab at me with the last part but I don't think you get what you're doing or how it looks like to someone else. You saying you won't take time to discuss or debate with someone that happened in the past when they're young, regardless if they spent hours or days researching or watching full games, like a basketball junkie would do. How is that not belittle and your example of what belittle shows you don't know what it means exactly :rofl:

You saying you won't discuss with them implies you don't think their opinion is important or you think it's not worth your time. How is that not belittling their opinion?

Ok, you win.
 
Not sure who said it but I agree with the idea of you not really knowing a player unless you were alive/conscious during their time of play. Highlights are one thing, but did you live during the era in which he played? Did you UNDERSTAND basketball during that time?

Being 8 when Jordan was playing doesn't count. You did not understand  what you were seeing with a developed basketball mind.

So sometimes, arguments vs someone of another generation will just be a waste of words
 
Not sure who said it but I agree with the idea of you not really knowing a player unless you were alive/conscious during their time of play. Highlights are one thing, but did you live during the era in which he played? Did you UNDERSTAND basketball during that time?

Being 8 when Jordan was playing doesn't count. You did not understand  what you were seeing with a developed basketball mind.

So sometimes, arguments vs someone of another generation will just be a waste of words

well, that of course was me. But thats belittling those who were young at the time, apparently.

I'm not the type to say anything about guys like Wilt, Elgin, West, Russell because I've only seen highlights. I can't speak about those players, so when my Dad talks about them, I let him be. Would be dumb of me to argue about a subject i have no real knowledge about.

But with some people, they think their expertise is so massive, that looking at some highlights is enough for them to give an opinion.

You pretty much summed up what I was saying in a more "gentle and positive" way. Arguments vs someone of another generation will just be a waste of words was exactly what i was trying to say. Thank you
 
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I agree with that 100%. In terms of arguing one era over another. I might even go as far as its pointless.
 
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