THE 2015 NBA PRE SEASON THREAD: BEST WISHES TO LAMAR ODOM

[rck3sactown]

 

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@jbk14mv10

I pretty much only follow NBA writers, players, etc. and IMDB. And I hardly ever tweet myself. I have no followers

(not even fake ones).

 

[onetrust]

Nah man he sucks

He's still young enough to get back to where he was. I think this was one of those low risk/high rewards type moves.

 

[addict4sneakers]

I like a good pissing contest every once in a while.

You guys lay off the Mavs fans though.

They're going through a lot right now

2012-2013 was worse than this.... 

this aint nothing... first time in a while we got a draft pick that could actually see good minutes from the jump 

Nah this season is worse. 2012-13 still featured a tail end prime Dirk who you could still build around. You can't build around this version of Dirk.

 

[SneakerProSr.]

I like a good pissing contest every once in a while.

You guys lay off the Mavs fans though.

They're going through a lot right now

2012-2013 was worse than this.... 

this aint nothing... first time in a while we got a draft pick that could actually see good minutes from the jump 

Nah this season is worse. 2012-13 still featured a tail end prime Dirk who you could still build around. You can't build around this version of Dirk.

We haveto realistically consider doing what Boston did and trading Rick Carlisle for a 1st round pick this is the last year of his contract and he's not going to reside over a rebuild.

The Dirk era is over. I would let dude retire or take a year off but I don't want to see Dirk out there killing himself next to Kevin Serrafin in his last days.

We are done unless a miracle trade happens.

 

[og lil nut]

Amare to Miami?

 

[johnnyredstorm]

This is from the Lakers thread. The numbers support Hibbert doing his job:

The Franks-Miller method also helps us understand differences in interior defenders. Below, you see the 2013-14 defensive shot charts of three of the NBA’s most prominent rim protectors.

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As you can see, all of these guys turned the paint blue, meaning opponents suddenly shot at below expected efficiency when facing them. However, while Roy Hibbert and Tim Duncan each faced a lot of shots in the paint, Dwight Howard deterred opponents from even attempting close-range field goals. Abandon all hope, ye who enter the paint against Superman.

Now, were these differences in interior defense symptomatic of individual skill, or were they reflections of the varying defensive principles among teams? Did the Spurs and Pacers intentionally “funnel” shooters toward their behemoth basket protectors in ways that the Rockets did not? Of course, schemes and teammates matter — Rudy Gobert makes Trey Burke a better defender, just like Hibbert made Paul George a better defender. But that caveat doesn’t negate some of the new ways we’re able to quantify defensive performance.

Another important stat to come out of Franks and Miller’s work: Contest Rate. Last season, NBA players attempted more than 200,000 shots. We can now see which frontcourt players contested shots the most often when they were on the floor and who contested shots the least often.

Highest Contest Rates Among Frontcourt players, 2013-14

Roy Hibbert: 41.9 percent
Robin Lopez: 40.1 percent
Ian Mahinmi: 39.3 percent
Joakim Noah: 37.3 percent
Timofey Mozgov: 37.2 percent
Hibbert not only contested almost 42 percent of shots, but his backup, Ian Mahinmi, was third. Which brings us back to that idea of the Pacers funneling shooters toward their centers. It’s an idea bolstered by David West’s placement on the next list:

Lowest Contest Rates Among Frontcourt players, 2013-14

David West: 23.4 percent
Mike Scott: 23.9 percent
Josh McRoberts: 25.1 percent
Blake Griffin: 25.3 percent
Jeremy Evans: 25.6 percent
Contest Rate is one thing; tallying up Points Against is another.

http://grantland.com/features/department-of-defense/

Our results reveal other details of play that are not readily apparent. As one example, we demonstrate that two highly regarded defensive centers, Roy Hibbert and Dwight Howard, impact the game in opposing ways. Hibbert reduces shot efficiency near the basket more than any other player in the game, but also faces more shots there than similar players. Howard, on the other hand, is one of the best at reducing shot frequency in this area, but tends to be worse than average at reducing shot efficiency. We
synthesize the spatially varying efficiency and frequency results visually in the defensive shot chart, a new analogue to the oft depicted offensive shot chart

Roy Hibbert ranks first (Table 4) and fourth out of 167 defenders in his effect on shot efficiency in the paint. Dwight Howard, is ranked 50 and 117 respectively out of 167 in these two base.

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1405.0231v2.pdf

If he can get back to that level, he's a huge asset and amazing pickup for the risk.

 

[011781]

Nah this season is worse. 2012-13 still featured a tail end prime Dirk who you could still build around. You can't build around this version of Dirk.

Parsons and Wessy are babies.... two nice pieces to build a team around

that 2012 team was basically a team put together by picking squads at the park or gym 

no one cared about each other... no chemistry... just collecting checks

it was rough watching that team

people don't give Cuban enough credit for putting respectable teams on the floor every year..... sure, may not be Championship contenders, but that's better than taking the 76er route IMO.... 

 

[finallyfamous]

Varejao just followed the Grizz and Conley on IG

 

[finallyfamous]

Jeff Green to CLE????

 

[pmatic]

@ESPNSteinLine ESPN sources say Mavericks are closing in on acquisition of Zaza Pachulia from Milwaukee via trade and take him into their cap space

 

[johnnyredstorm]

Jeff Green to CLE????

tht would be amazing

for haywood i would guess?

 

[SneakerProSr.]

Nah this season is worse. 2012-13 still featured a tail end prime Dirk who you could still build around. You can't build around this version of Dirk.

Parsons and Wessy are babies.... two nice pieces to build a team around

that 2012 team was basically a team put together by picking squads at the park or gym 

no one cared about each other... no chemistry... just collecting checks

it was rough watching that team

people don't give Cuban enough credit for putting respectable teams on the floor every year..... sure, may not be Championship contenders, but that's better than taking the 76er route IMO.... 

This is the NBA, one great player who is a leader on and off the court and you should never be awful unless said player gets hurt.

Til this day Monta Ellis is the best scorer Dirk has played with in his career.

Monta Ellis.

Dirk has been carrying this franchise in every conceivable way for 15 years. If you want to give Cuban credit for sticking with him I'd agree but let us be cereal.

 

[rck3sactown]

 

@ESPNSteinLine ESPN sources say Mavericks are closing in on acquisition of Zaza Pachulia from Milwaukee via trade and take him into their cap space

such a great plan B

Zaza is the goods

srs

 

[youngwolf]

Jeff Green sucks.

 

[og lil nut]

Where's Jeff Green going to get minutes in Cleveland?

 

[SneakerProSr.]

Where's Jeff Green going to get minutes in Cleveland?

When at the 3 when Lebron take 2 months off to rest for postseason.

Novemeber and December this year.

 

[rolaholic]

 
Marcus Thornton  ‏@OfficialMT23   1h1 hour ago

                              

 

[pmatic]

 

@ESPNSteinLine ESPN sources say Mavericks are closing in on acquisition of Zaza Pachulia from Milwaukee via trade and take him into their cap space

such a great plan B

Zaza is the goods

srs

Nothing easy.

 

[bstmde83]

ONLY 7?
Bruh that's every spot but one

I know that Bruh, that's why I said its gonna take ALOT OF THINGS TO GO RIGHT for the Lakers and A lot of Things to go wrong with teams other than the ones who are playoff locks anyway for the Lakers to have a chance at that 8th spot, I doubt well get there but long as I see Major improvement from my squad with the Rooks shining then I ain't trippin..

 

[pmatic]

 
Marcus Thornton ‏@OfficialMT23 
 1h1 hour ago

                              

Saw his name associated with the Heat this morning.

 

[finallyfamous]

3 TEAM TRADE ABOUT TO GO DOWN

Cavs get: Joe Johnson

Nets get: Haywoods contract/Jeff Green

Grizz get: Anderson Varejao.

uh oh

 

[SneakerProSr.]

Da hell the Grizz doing that for?

 

[dennistrane]

Cant wait to pick up JJ's Nets swingman jersey for the low 

 

[htg designs]

Jeff Green doodoo doh

 

[Benny Hinn]

I hope that 1st Mavs-Clips game turns into Malice in the Palace 2.0