THE 2015 NBA PRE SEASON THREAD: BEST WISHES TO LAMAR ODOM

Who will represent the Western Conference in the NBA Finals?

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Brady Fred ‏@PistonPowered · 1m1 minute ago
Plumlee, Davis, Vonleh and Leonard isn't bad for Portland... but that's still nowhere near LaMarcus Aldridge and Robin Lopez.
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Oh right. I forget about Plumlee.
 
Kevin Pelton @kpelton 1m
Ed Davis, Meyers Leonard, Mason Plumlee and Noah Vonleh is an interesting offensive group. Defensively ... an interesting offensive group. Blazers continuing to find value in mid-20s players, though, and that's probably the most important thing at this stage.
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Monroe gonna play the 5 in Milwaukee?

Monroe
Parker
Giannis
Middleton
MCW

Not bad
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Just very impressive. If they could just upgrade the pg spot a little bit that'd be looking my bueno. MCW basically a 2 playing out of position.

But I don't want to single MCW out. Overall, they're still too young and need more shooting.
 
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Peep Game said:
The driving force behind people not wanting to play for those teams is cause that's players don't see futures for those teams, especially immediate futures. Knicks and Lakers have all this money and off-court opportunities, but nothing basketball related, especially winning. Melo is clearly fine with getting paid and losing at his age. LMA clearly doesn't want big money and L's. If he did, he wouldn't stayed in Portland, or went to LA. No one is afraid to play under the bright lights of a washed Kobe in LA or a demotivated Melo. It would be silly to hitch your hopes to either of those
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Off the court opportunities are overrated anyway. Guys with huge endorsement deals are in small markets now. Lillard, Russ, KD, I'm sure Wiggins will get his, AD, etc. The endorsements and everything is there as long as they see star power.
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This is true to a certain extent. CP3 really didn't start getting the good ads until he went to LA, maybe the same for Melo?

It can be a added bonus.
 
Kurt Helin @basketballtalk 1m
Report: Trail Blazers signing Ed Davis to three-year, $20 million contract dlvr.it/BPN3SX
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Ken Berger @KBergCBS
Ed Davis' deal with Portland is for three years and $20 million with no options, source says.
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Adi Joseph @AdiJoseph
I'm way more in for a Meyers Leonard - Noah Vonleh starting frontcourt than the more likely Al-Farouq Aminu - Ed Davis pairing. Regardless, unless Aldridge and/or Lopez come back, Leonard AND Vonleh should be getting 20-plus minutes per game.
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Ken Berger @KBergCBS 3m
Warriors promote Larry Harris to director of player personnel and hire Lachlan Penfold as head of physical performance/sports medicine. W's are 2nd team this summer to create performance/sports science position in front office. Sixers added Dr. David Martin in similar role.
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Only the Kings want Rondo. Damn, Rajon, life comes at you fast, doesn't it?

Still remember his scumbag ways during that Bulls Celtics series. Hope he rots.

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I don't know any of this Draft class at all. Anyone knows who might have potential to be a future nba superstar?
Last season it was andrew wiggins, though he in my opinion the most recent rising nba superstar is anthony Davis.
 
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jumpman cbt2 said:
I don't know any of this Draft class at all. Anyone knows who might have potential to be a future nba superstar?
Last season it was andrew wiggins, though he in my opinion the most recent rising nba superstar is anthony Davis.
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Operating theory, subject to change:

Towns, Okafor, Hezonja, Winslow.
 
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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 1m
Free agent guard Shane Larkin has agreed to a two-year, $3M deal with the Brooklyn Nets, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
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Grading The Deal: 76ers On Winning Side Of Atrocious Salary Dump By Kings

BY DANIEL LEROUX, JUL 2, 2015 2:37 PM


In the Summer of 2013, the Golden State Warriors gave up two likely late first round picks in order to clear the space to sign Andre Iguodala.

In the Summer of 2014, the Cleveland Cavaliers gave up Tyler Zeller and a first round pick in order to clear the space to sign LeBron James (though he had not committed yet).

In the Summer of 2015, the Sacramento Kings gave up Nik Stauskas, a protected first round pick and swap rights for two drafts to clear the space to sign… someone with the key pieces already off the market.

The trade for Philadelphia:

For those who wonder why Sam Hinkie and the Sixers keep their books so clean, it works because it makes them the first call for teams looking to do terrible deals like this one.

Philadelphia sacrificed basically nothing to make this deal happen- they are still below the salary floor for the current season and have about $20 million in space if they wanted to secure someone. The Sixers did give up a little 2017 flexibility but still have more than enough room to do whatever they like.

In return for giving up basically nothing, Philly received a mint. A future first round pick from the Kings that likely comes after DeMarcus Cousins will have hit unrestricted free agency the next time (it comes two years after Sacramento fulfills their current obligation to the Bulls via Cleveland) along with recent lottery pick Nik Stauskas and two options to swap first round picks.

Stauskas has been a disappointment early on playing in a suboptimal situation, but still has plenty of potential to become a useful NBA player if not more. With three more seasons on the rookie scale, the Sixers have plenty of time to evaluate the former Wolverines' potential and can always trade him down the line.

In terms of the pick swaps, Derek Bodner wrote a great piece summarizing their value: extra ping pong balls. While there could be some protection on the swap(s), they likely give the Sixers a few more chances at a top three pick and far more than that if we see any lottery reform in the near future.

It is possible the pick will take a while to come over (especially if it is top-10 protected and Cousins leaves) but it is still a present asset they secured for very little.

One final note that makes this trade even more amazing: the Sixers could absolutely trade Jason Thompson for an asset in the next 12 months. He can contribute as a big off the bench for a team dealing with an injury and carries a small commitment for 2016-17.

Grade for the Sixers: A

The trade for Sacramento:

Argh.

Making this exact move on June 30th would have been bad but waiting until late in the day on July 1st took it to a whole new level of terrible. Numerous players in the Restricted market took discounts (though some reportedly did so without reaching out to many other teams) and all of the best options for the summer are long gone. That changes this from a move of opportunity like the Warriors and Cavs above to one of desperation.

Vivek Ranadive and company also gave up substantially more resources than the going rate to unload salary despite an increasing cap. After all, the Nuggets gave up a single protected first round pick from the Thunder (so, late first) to offload more than $20 million in salary for JaVale McGee less than five months ago.

What makes this all worse is that the cap space created by the move is mistake fuel. Rumored targets like Rajon Rondo, Wesley Matthews and Kosta Koufos all fail to mesh with any competent vision for future success.

The Kings have a 24-year-old who is already one of the ten best players in the league with three more seasons of bargain team control. They have consistently failed to procure complementary talent and now will continue that trend while also weakening their cap flexibility for the remainder of Boogie’s time under contract.

We have seen franchises like the Bucks and Jazz build strong foundations in smaller markets without a building block like Cousins so it certainly can be done in today’s NBA. Instead, the Sacrameltdown continues for the foreseeable future.

Grade for the Kings: F--
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Jason Thompson ‏@jtthekid · 3m3 minutes ago
Beyond excited to be going back to Philly. Grew up a Sixers fan. Dream come true. [emoji]128588[/emoji][emoji]127998[/emoji][emoji]128591[/emoji][emoji]127998[/emoji]
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jumpman cbt2 said:
I don't know any of this Draft class at all. Anyone knows who might have potential to be a future nba superstar?
Last season it was andrew wiggins, though he in my opinion the most recent rising nba superstar is anthony Davis.
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Only reason I know anything about the Class of 15/16 is NT.

I'm now up on Kristaps, C. Payne and D. Russell though. No interest or mental capacity for them before NBA
 
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Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo 1m
While Jabari Parker (knee surgery) is looking good, Bucks are being cautious as he is not on summer league roster & has no return timetable.
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