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Poll Results: Who will represent the Western Conference in the NBA Finals?

 
  • 25% (39)
    Thunder
  • 11% (17)
    Clippers
  • 18% (28)
    Spurs
  • 1% (3)
    Mavs
  • 1% (3)
    Grizzlies
  • 11% (18)
    Rockets
  • 9% (15)
    Kings
  • 18% (28)
    Warriors
  • 0% (0)
    Pelicans
151 Total Votes  
post #12481 of 38131
Quote:
Originally Posted by art vandelay View Post

That Phoenix team was my favorite post MJ Bulls era.

Healthy Nash
JJ
Quentin Richardson shooting lights out 3s
Matrix
Healthy Stoudemire

Crazy fun team to watch.


Indeed.
post #12482 of 38131
Quote:
Originally Posted by art vandelay View Post


That Phoenix team was my favorite post MJ Bulls era.

Healthy Nash
JJ
Quentin Richardson shooting lights out 3s
Matrix
Healthy Stoudemire

Crazy fun team to watch.

Don't forget 

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post #12483 of 38131
Not scared by Cavs adding JJ

Dude just has no heart whatsoever

Cavs probably did us a favor by adding him

I would've been more scared if Cavs had signed someone like Paul Pierce.
post #12484 of 38131
Quote:
Originally Posted by CashBanks View Post

Joe Johnson would feast as the go to guy against 2nd units.

Dudes act like he has to play every minute alongside Bron, Love and Kyrie.

Um he pretty much always would be, Shump needs minutes too.
post #12485 of 38131
If JJ goes to Cleveland then they ain't buying out Deron because its gets them below the lux tax mean.gif

Edit-They resigned Brook and Thad. There is still hope.
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post #12486 of 38131
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Originally Posted by awwsome View Post

Joe is better when he's creating offense though, don't see that happening playing with Kyrie and Bron.

He's mostly going to be a catch and shoot guy, JR actually is better at that than Joe at this point.

JR shot 40% on catch & shoot threes. JJ was at 38%.

So yes, Joe is a minor downgrade in that one area while being an upgrade at virtually everything else.

And I don't trust Kyrie to be healthy for 82 games + playoffs = 100+ games. The same way they didn't trust Varejao.

So I need another ball handler/scorer if I can get one.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keko Jones View Post

Is this **** even confirmed?

Who would the Cavs trade for JJ?

Shump and Haywood? LoL

As previously stated, Brooklyn will struggle to make the playoffs despite having one of the highest payrolls in the league resulting in nearly $45 mil in luxury tax penalties. Trading Joe for Haywood + Andy allows them to avoid that & save over $40 mil.

Or they can pay nearly $150 mil for a team that will either miss the playoffs or lose in the first round.
  
  
post #12487 of 38131
Quote:
Originally Posted by CashBanks View Post

I think Matt is way more legit tho.


plus like @bhzmafia14 said captain Jack said he's a fake and that's the gospel in terms of NBA toughness IMO.

Man captain jack fake as can be. The epitome of fake is making millions in the nba throwing up blood signs

Jerry stackhouse would wash captain jack with the hands
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post #12488 of 38131
Quote:
Originally Posted by awwsome View Post

Um he pretty much always would be, Shump needs minutes too.

Ok...... so wouldn't it be easier and smarter to get Shump his minutes with the more offensively gifted guys?

Not to mention LeBron should be playing less regular season minutes anyway
post #12489 of 38131
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Originally Posted by ComptonPrince View Post

Don't forget 
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post #12490 of 38131
Report: DeAndre Jordan Was Sick And Tired Of Chris Paul
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
The Los Angeles Clippers returned from their longest trip of the season in February having lost five of their eight games. But DeAndre Jordan posted some of the best numbers of his career over the stretch, including a 22-point, 27-rebound, 3-block effort in a win at Dallas to finish the trip.

The core of the team had been together for more than three years, and tempers were wearing thin. Jordan and Chris Paul had gotten into it more than once, which led Jordan to start seriously contemplating what it might be like to play elsewhere in 2015-16.

He was tired of Paul's constant barking and petty gestures, like distributing high-fives to the three other guys on the floor following a timeout but somehow freezing out Jordan. Optics aside, the biggest issue for Jordan was that, despite the leaps and bounds he made to be named first team all-defense, the Clippers always treated him like the player he was when he arrived in the NBA, and never like the player he'd become.

From the moment he arrived on the campus of Texas A&M in 2007, Jordan was tagged with a red flag. He was labeled a head case whose physical gifts would never translate into on-court production. Once a potential top-10 talent, he sank to the second round of the 2008 NBA draft, where he was taken No. 35 overall, though some in the Clippers organization wanted to select Mike Taylor.

When Jordan arrived in Los Angeles, he was the consummate "project" big man, regarded as a slow learner with confidence issues to boot. During those first couple of seasons, the Clippers made more outgoing calls than incoming ones on Jordan, who saw little playing time.


But little by little, Jordan became a more confident offensive player and, much more notably, a rim protector who began to grasp the nuances of pick-and-roll coverage and back-line defensive rotations. When Doc Rivers arrived in Los Angeles in 2013, he immediately anointed Jordan a member of the Clippers' big three and declared Jordan's candidacy for defensive player of the year.

Yet for as much confidence as Rivers' "Don't worry about your touches, just defend like hell" shtick inspired in the young center, Jordan still wanted to expand his offensive role. This belief intensified during Blake Griffin's absence in parts of February and March, when Jordan felt as if he proved he was an honest-to-goodness offensive threat, routinely putting up 20-plus points without sloughing off any of the dirty work on the glass and on the defensive end.

At Jordan's request, he and the Clippers began to have more substantive conversations about how he might expand his role, both on the offensive end and in the team's marketing campaign. All the while, a few teams around the league started to quietly send out signals that, were Jordan to entertain the idea of playing somewhere other than with the Clippers next season, they'd be interested in his services.

Intelligent people can debate whether Jordan was truly worthy of an all-defense nod this season, but his production never waned. He logged 16 points, 17 boards, four steals and three blocks in Game 7 of the Clippers' devastating Western Conference semifinals loss to Houston. Jordan's exploration of free agency began in earnest soon thereafter.

There was considerable interest in Jordan but also a challenge. Many of the early suitors couldn't offer him the expanded offensive role he coveted. But there were a few that could, namely Dallas, the Los Angeles Lakers and the New York Knicks. Of course, there were still the Clippers, where Jordan had made his mark, and played alongside his closest friend in basketball, Griffin. And though Rivers might not have always been successful giving Jordan the kind of post touches he wanted -- and one could argue Rivers' vision of Jordan's role in the offense was spot-on -- the coach had been a catalyst for the center's development.

Yet when the recruiting process got underway, the Clippers were off-key. Jordan gave the Clippers the first shot at choosing a time slot, according to sources, but scheduling the meeting was a chore. All the while, the Mavericks, Lakers and Knicks each gave compelling basketball presentations about how their respective offenses could accommodate Jordan with nifty pick-and-roll sets and, in the Mavericks' case, play calls that leveraged Dirk Nowitzki's range to give Jordan baseline seals and duck-ins. It was everything Jordan had envisioned: a Dwight Howard-size role in an NBA offense.

The Clippers came in and told Jordan he was central to their team success, but in contrast to the other suitors, their message was shrouded in ambiguity. The marketing piece from president of business operations Gillian Zucker was compelling, but the basketball pitch offered few of the particulars he saw in the other meetings. Still, that wasn't the biggest beef.






Jordan is a very impressionable guy who was tarred first as immature, then as an underachieving athletic freak, then as a convenient scapegoat for Paul and others whenever things became wobbly. And now the Clippers' primary rival for Jordan, the Mavericks, couldn't do enough to convey their love for him. Nowitzki interrupted his vacation to fly to Los Angeles to join Chandler Parsons to take Jordan out. Mark Cuban and Rick Carlisle wined and dined him. The full-court press was on and, for the first time since high school, Jordan was an object of desire.

Meanwhile, the Clippers' meeting didn't include a single player. Griffin, of course, was in constant touch with his confidant, but Paul was off in the Bahamas with LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony. Paul made only half-hearted attempts to reach out to Jordan late in the process, according to sources close to the situation. At a certain point, the balance of affection tipped, and there weren't enough dinners at Katsuya or testimonials to Jordan about how much he'd flourished under Rivers' development to keep Jordan in Los Angeles.

Jordan's departure represents a cruel irony for Rivers. Had he not been so successful at emboldening Jordan as an all-world defender, he might not have had to fight as hard to keep him.
post #12491 of 38131
Wasn't Boris Diaw on that team as well?
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post #12492 of 38131
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Collector View Post

JJ is a very good player. He's just not the type you build around. He'll make the Cavs ALOT more scary. IMO

I love what the cavs are doing. Stock pile that talent just incase. Get joe, sign lebron and tristan, sign mo or ray allen.

They getting ready for that loaded spurs team
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post #12493 of 38131
Get your money and your touches, DJ pimp.gif
post #12494 of 38131
Quote:
Originally Posted by NobleKane View Post


Man captain jack fake as can be. The epitome of fake is making millions in the nba throwing up blood signs

Jerry stackhouse would wash captain jack with the hands

Aint nothin fake bout Jack homie  #SuWoopBidness

post #12495 of 38131
Quote:
Originally Posted by ColdCity View Post

Report: DeAndre Jordan Was Sick And Tired Of Chris Paul
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
The Los Angeles Clippers returned from their longest trip of the season in February having lost five of their eight games. But DeAndre Jordan posted some of the best numbers of his career over the stretch, including a 22-point, 27-rebound, 3-block effort in a win at Dallas to finish the trip.

The core of the team had been together for more than three years, and tempers were wearing thin. Jordan and Chris Paul had gotten into it more than once, which led Jordan to start seriously contemplating what it might be like to play elsewhere in 2015-16.

He was tired of Paul's constant barking and petty gestures, like distributing high-fives to the three other guys on the floor following a timeout but somehow freezing out Jordan. Optics aside, the biggest issue for Jordan was that, despite the leaps and bounds he made to be named first team all-defense, the Clippers always treated him like the player he was when he arrived in the NBA, and never like the player he'd become.

From the moment he arrived on the campus of Texas A&M in 2007, Jordan was tagged with a red flag. He was labeled a head case whose physical gifts would never translate into on-court production. Once a potential top-10 talent, he sank to the second round of the 2008 NBA draft, where he was taken No. 35 overall, though some in the Clippers organization wanted to select Mike Taylor.

When Jordan arrived in Los Angeles, he was the consummate "project" big man, regarded as a slow learner with confidence issues to boot. During those first couple of seasons, the Clippers made more outgoing calls than incoming ones on Jordan, who saw little playing time.


But little by little, Jordan became a more confident offensive player and, much more notably, a rim protector who began to grasp the nuances of pick-and-roll coverage and back-line defensive rotations. When Doc Rivers arrived in Los Angeles in 2013, he immediately anointed Jordan a member of the Clippers' big three and declared Jordan's candidacy for defensive player of the year.

Yet for as much confidence as Rivers' "Don't worry about your touches, just defend like hell" shtick inspired in the young center, Jordan still wanted to expand his offensive role. This belief intensified during Blake Griffin's absence in parts of February and March, when Jordan felt as if he proved he was an honest-to-goodness offensive threat, routinely putting up 20-plus points without sloughing off any of the dirty work on the glass and on the defensive end.

At Jordan's request, he and the Clippers began to have more substantive conversations about how he might expand his role, both on the offensive end and in the team's marketing campaign. All the while, a few teams around the league started to quietly send out signals that, were Jordan to entertain the idea of playing somewhere other than with the Clippers next season, they'd be interested in his services.

Intelligent people can debate whether Jordan was truly worthy of an all-defense nod this season, but his production never waned. He logged 16 points, 17 boards, four steals and three blocks in Game 7 of the Clippers' devastating Western Conference semifinals loss to Houston. Jordan's exploration of free agency began in earnest soon thereafter.

There was considerable interest in Jordan but also a challenge. Many of the early suitors couldn't offer him the expanded offensive role he coveted. But there were a few that could, namely Dallas, the Los Angeles Lakers and the New York Knicks. Of course, there were still the Clippers, where Jordan had made his mark, and played alongside his closest friend in basketball, Griffin. And though Rivers might not have always been successful giving Jordan the kind of post touches he wanted -- and one could argue Rivers' vision of Jordan's role in the offense was spot-on -- the coach had been a catalyst for the center's development.

Yet when the recruiting process got underway, the Clippers were off-key. Jordan gave the Clippers the first shot at choosing a time slot, according to sources, but scheduling the meeting was a chore. All the while, the Mavericks, Lakers and Knicks each gave compelling basketball presentations about how their respective offenses could accommodate Jordan with nifty pick-and-roll sets and, in the Mavericks' case, play calls that leveraged Dirk Nowitzki's range to give Jordan baseline seals and duck-ins. It was everything Jordan had envisioned: a Dwight Howard-size role in an NBA offense.

The Clippers came in and told Jordan he was central to their team success, but in contrast to the other suitors, their message was shrouded in ambiguity. The marketing piece from president of business operations Gillian Zucker was compelling, but the basketball pitch offered few of the particulars he saw in the other meetings. Still, that wasn't the biggest beef.






Jordan is a very impressionable guy who was tarred first as immature, then as an underachieving athletic freak, then as a convenient scapegoat for Paul and others whenever things became wobbly. And now the Clippers' primary rival for Jordan, the Mavericks, couldn't do enough to convey their love for him. Nowitzki interrupted his vacation to fly to Los Angeles to join Chandler Parsons to take Jordan out. Mark Cuban and Rick Carlisle wined and dined him. The full-court press was on and, for the first time since high school, Jordan was an object of desire.

Meanwhile, the Clippers' meeting didn't include a single player. Griffin, of course, was in constant touch with his confidant, but Paul was off in the Bahamas with LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony. Paul made only half-hearted attempts to reach out to Jordan late in the process, according to sources close to the situation. At a certain point, the balance of affection tipped, and there weren't enough dinners at Katsuya or testimonials to Jordan about how much he'd flourished under Rivers' development to keep Jordan in Los Angeles.

Jordan's departure represents a cruel irony for Rivers. Had he not been so successful at emboldening Jordan as an all-world defender, he might not have had to fight as hard to keep him.

Chris Paul is a JOKE!!! Get that Money DJ and Flourish!!!
post #12496 of 38131
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Originally Posted by nycknicks105 View Post

Wasn't Boris Diaw on that team as well?

Yea 50lbs lighter 

post #12497 of 38131
Steve Francis found out the hard way. Seriously though, Jack is a serious dude.
post #12498 of 38131
Quote:
Originally Posted by Suberzat1 View Post

I hope Kobe bless Draymond next season

Bless him with what? Shattered knees?
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post #12499 of 38131
CP0 shooting himself at the foot all the time
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post #12500 of 38131
Quote:
Originally Posted by eddiengambino View Post

CP0 shooting himself at the foot all the time

Yeah, good luck throwing lobs to Ryan Freakin Hollins Cliff.
post #12501 of 38131
Deandre is kidding himself if he thinks he should be the focus of an offense.
post #12502 of 38131
Quote:
Originally Posted by eddiengambino View Post

CP0 shooting himself at the foot all the time

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post #12503 of 38131
Quote:
Originally Posted by CashBanks View Post

Deandre is kidding himself if he thinks he should be the focus of an offense.

Doesn't matter what he thinks it's how the MAVS made him feel...

post #12504 of 38131
DJ is gonna flourish in Dallas.
post #12505 of 38131
Quote:
Originally Posted by ComptonPrince View Post

Doesn't matter what he thinks it's how the MAVS made him feel...

Oh no i'm sure they sold him some bull, but some of these dudes need to realize who they are everybody isn't gonna be Hakeem or Shaq on offense, do the dirty work, eat off pick and rolls and garbage buckets that's all Deandre should be worried about.

Dude wants to be Blake.
post #12506 of 38131
“You’re about to get an exclusive here,” Bonner said. “I hate to make excuses, I was raised to never make excuses, but I went through a two-and-a-half month stretch where I had really bad tennis elbow, and during that stretch it made it so painful for me to shoot I’d almost be cringing before I even caught the ball like, ‘Oh, this is going to kill.’”

But how did he end up with tennis elbow in the arm he doesn't use to shoot the ball? That's where things get weird.


“Everybody is going to find this hilarious, but here’s my theory on how I got it,” he said. “When the new iPhone came out it was way bigger than the last one, and I think because I got that new phone it was a strain to use it, you have to stretch further to hit the buttons, and I honestly think that’s how I ended up developing it.”


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post #12507 of 38131
Every bball player got an ego. We all know DJ ain't that good offensively.
But CP0 lost a valuable defensive anchor.
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post #12508 of 38131
Quote:
Originally Posted by CashBanks View Post


Oh no i'm sure they sold him some bull, but some of these dudes need to realize who they are everybody isn't gonna be Hakeem or Shaq on offense, do the dirty work, eat off pick and rolls and garbage buckets that's all Deandre should be worried about.

Dude wants to be Blake.

Blake will miss DJ more than we think 

post #12509 of 38131
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyRedStorm View Post

DJ is gonna flourish in Dallas.

with lin as the pg.... its remotely possible
post #12510 of 38131
Quote:
Originally Posted by ComptonPrince View Post

Aint nothin fake bout Jack homie  #SuWoopBidness

Urban legends will make a head big

I guess all it takes to be a tough guy these days is get jocked by bangers in high school, get a blood tat, wash a fat white fan in the crowd, and be loud?
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