Originally Posted by lynchpin33
Been saying this and it always goes unnoticed. It was beyond ridiculous against the Warriors when they had Gasol and Z-bo bringing the ball up the floor in the 4th quarter. When Conley fouled out or was either hurt. The coach took both backup point guards out of the game, I guess that was an analytics move. Serious talk Thibbs as been good with backup point guards maybe they can hire him just for that. From Gilbert Arenas and the others, they have never had anyone who can give Conley any help at the backup point guard postion. The frustrating thing is the window is getting smaller and smaller and may be closed at this point. I like the Grizzlies type of play, but when Conley goes to the bench or they get down by more than 10, it's tough to watch.
Question -- can they afford to have Tony Allen starting another year and not be a threat on the perimeter? Bogut "guarding" him and by that being just close enough not to get an illegal defense was crazy.
For me, its a little less about a backup PG and more about having a perimeter player that can create / score. Whether its a big combo guard, a true SG or a SF. They need another scorer that can take the pressure off him. Beno was fine last year as a backup and lit Portland up in the 1st round until he got hurt. He was the most efficient mid range shooter in the league last season as well. However, he's old and his defense sucked. I'm fine rolling with Beno or maybe even Russ Smith, but like I said the Grizz need another scorer / playmaker. When they signed VC last year, he fit that mold perfectly off the bench. I mean the guy just came off of 3 seasons in Dallas where he was in the running for 6th man of the year. Then, he got hurt and was never healthy last year. That's why I'm somewhat hopeful of him returning to that guy next season.
Still, a 38-year old VC simply will not be enough. The guy I'm describing to help Conley is basically Jordan Adams. As poor as our perimeter play was last season, Joerger never gave Adams a true shot and he did very well in the little minutes he saw. He can score, handle, create and get to the line. It'll be in their best interest to make sure he's developing this summer and use him as a go to scorer off the bench that can play next to Conley late in games.
As for Tony, I'm in favor of putting him on the bench. But, our wing rotations is poor right now and you cannot realistically say Jeff Green or Matt Barnes is more effective than him as a starter. In spite of his offensive liabilities, he gets it done on the defensive end and changes games solely off of that. But, the Grizz either need to bring another guy in that will force him to the bench or roll with Lee and Barnes. If not traded, I see Green being the combo forward off the bench.
LIke I said, the Grizz can get away with lack of shooting in the regular season. They can also get away with it against most teams in the playoffs, but once they match up with an elite level squad (GSW, SAS), they end up being shown the door. They've beaten LAC, POR and probably could've beat OKC if not for Zbo's suspension with lackluster shooting. But, they cannot get the entire West without it.