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Who will represent the Western Conference in the NBA Finals?

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But so what if Varejao can't be 'counted on to suit up' though. My point is size and rebounding was not their problem doing the finals.

Love does a bit more than provide "size and rebounding"

Basically everything Tristan Thompson can't do, Love can. They're perfect complements.

And who exactly are they going after anyway? Remove Love and you still have Bron, TT's new near max deal, Kyrie, & Varejao & others so your payroll is still around 80 mil.

Who are you signing?

Any wing better than Jr and Iman, to start. An extra perimeter defender.. Idk man, anything but tying up your money in two guys who will take minutes from each other instead of complementing each other


They both make each other redundant. Love is just better at spacing the floor and TT is better at switching onto a ball hander in the pick and roll
Lol so the only thing Love does better offensively than TT is shoot threes? :lol:

Even if that was true, that's a pretty critical difference considering TT can't even shoot from midrange. The guy struggles to score in double digits consistently. He's very limited on that end.

And taking mins from each other? :lol: You can easily give Love his usual 34 mpg at the 4, give TT the other 14 and play him some more at the 5. The mins thing isn't even a thought.

And again, who specifically are they signing with their limited cap room? I still haven't seen any names.
 
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But so what if Varejao can't be 'counted on to suit up' though. My point is size and rebounding was not their problem doing the finals.
Love does a bit more than provide "size and rebounding"

Basically everything Tristan Thompson can't do, Love can. They're perfect complements.

And who exactly are they going after anyway? Remove Love and you still have Bron, TT's new near max deal, Kyrie, & Varejao & others so your payroll is still around 80 mil.

Who are you signing?
Any wing better than Jr and Iman, to start. An extra perimeter defender.. Idk man, anything but tying up your money in two guys who will take minutes from each other instead of complementing each other


They both make each other redundant. Love is just better at spacing the floor and TT is better at switching onto a ball hander in the pick and roll
Lol so the only thing Love does better offensively than TT is shoot threes?
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Even if that was true, that's a pretty critical difference considering TT can't even shoot from midrange. The guy struggles to score in double digits consistently. He's very limited on that end.

And taking mins from each other?
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You can easily give Love his usual 34 mpg at the 4, give TT the other 14 and play him some more at the 5. The mins thing isn't even a thought.

And again, who specifically are they signing with their limited cap room? I still haven't seen any names.
obviously love is very talented and can do a lot of things on offence but the way they used him this year was a huge waste. no point resigning him if all they expect from him is rebounds and standing in the corner as a spot up shooter. 

the money can be spent on a wing that doesnt have the basketball IQ of -21
 
Love provides spacing that Tristan does not. That alone makes him more valuable to LeBron's game/style.
 
obviously love is very talented and can do a lot of things on offence but the way they used him this year was a huge waste. no point resigning him if all they expect from him is rebounds and standing in the corner as a spot up shooter. 

the money can be spent on a wing that doesnt have the basketball IQ of -21
simple, Lebron needs love to open the middle so he can drive push off and score.

TT will not be doing that, however TT provides the opportunity for Lebron to shoot a low % intentionally so TT can cleanup the boards and get easy putbacks.

So its a tradeoff ...
 
 
obviously love is very talented and can do a lot of things on offence but the way they used him this year was a huge waste. no point resigning him if all they expect from him is rebounds and standing in the corner as a spot up shooter. 

the money can be spent on a wing that doesnt have the basketball IQ of -21
simple, Lebron needs love to open the middle so he can drive push off and score.

TT will not be doing that, however TT provides the opportunity for Lebron to shoot a low % intentionally so TT can cleanup the boards and get easy putbacks.

So its a tradeoff ...
yes but getting kevin love only to have him stand around and shoot threes is like paying 100 dollars for a swiss army knife and only using the knife part and nothing else when you could have gotten a regular knife for 20 dollars

its also risky when you take a top 10 player and force him into a smaller role, if they dont win enough love is going to get frustrated and demand a bigger role. how will coach lebron handle that? 
 
@itsaboutthattimeI don't want to see Adams go. I'm just afraid that OKC is going to try to package Mitch with Lamb and/or the 1st round pick and its not going to be enough value to yield an exceptional return.

Presti pulls of some moves though so, we shall see.

I wouldn't mind having Convington from Philly.
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But so what if Varejao can't be 'counted on to suit up' though. My point is size and rebounding was not their problem doing the finals.


Love does a bit more than provide "size and rebounding"


Basically everything Tristan Thompson can't do, Love can. They're perfect complements.


And who exactly are they going after anyway? Remove Love and you still have Bron, TT's new near max deal, Kyrie,


Any wing better than Jr and Iman, to start. An extra perimeter defender.. Idk man, anything but tying up your money in two guys who will take minutes from each other instead of complementing each other



They both make each other redundant. Love is just better at spacing the floor and TT is better at switching onto a ball hander in the pick and roll
Lol so the only thing Love does better offensively than TT is shoot threes? :lol:


Even if that was true, that's a pretty critical difference considering TT can't even shoot from midrange. The guy struggles to score in double digits consistently. He's very limited on that end.


And taking mins from each other? :lol: You can easily give Love his usual 34 mpg at the 4, give TT the other 14 and play him some more at the 5. The mins thing isn't even a thought.


And again, who specifically are they signing with their limited cap room? I still haven't seen any names.
obviously love is very talented and can do a lot of things on offence but the way they used him this year was a huge waste. no point resigning him if all they expect from him is rebounds and standing in the corner as a spot up shooter. 

the money can be spent on a wing that doesnt have the basketball IQ of -21
And even in a limited role he averaged 17 ppg, which is virtually double what TT gave them during this run. Love wasn't knocking down over 5 threes per game. He did a bit more offensively than just launch threes.

And their payroll right now is about 90 mil, and that's without TTs new deal. So you replace Love's salary with TTs new deal, and you're still at/around 90. Who are you signing with the mini-MLE?

Even if you unload Haywood without taking any salary back, you're still at 80 mil & your options are limited.

How are you gonna beat these high powered Western Conference teams with Bron, Kyrie, unreliable JR, & a bunch of dudes who can't consistently score above 10 ppg?
 
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If the Cavs let Lebron talk them into giving Tristan all that money, it bodes well for Thunder, sign that man.
 
And even in a limited role he averaged 17 ppg, which is virtually double what TT gave them during this run. Love wasn't knocking down over 5 threes per game. He did a bit more offensively than just launch threes.

And their payroll right now is about 90 mil, and that's without TTs new deal. So you replace Love's salary with TTs new deal, and you're still at/around 90. Who are you signing with the mini-MLE?

Even if you unload Haywood without taking any salary back, you're still at 80 mil & your options are limited.

How are you gonna beat these high powered Western Conference teams with Bron, Kyrie, unreliable JR, & a bunch of dudes who can't consistently score above 10 ppg?
with the best player in the world and his three playmakers (KI, KL and AV).
 
How does max money tied in LeBron, Kyrie, K. Love, & Tristian help them? That bench quality would be so poor..... the corpses of Juwuan Howard and Earl Boykins would averaged double digits against it.
 
The biggest problem I saw was that without Kyrie, LeBron was literally the only one with the responsibility to handle the ball. The rest just basically stands around and waits to play off of Bron. You hard double Bron and nobody else can make a play. Keeping both love and TT does not address that.

If Cavs want to keep Love, then fine. Let TT go and use that money to sign someone else.

But to keep both?

Idk who else is on the market, man. But that doesn't matter. Doesn't make sense to tie up your money and not address a need. Don't just spend money cuz you can.

I'm not trying to argue who's better: Love or TT. You're trying to take the argument there. I'm just saying, make a choice, keep one, live with it and look to fill in your needs at other spots. If you want Love's spacing and scoring, keep Love. If you want TT's energy and defense, keep TT. If Love is the choice they make to keep at that spot, so be it. Gosh damn, how hard is that to understand.
 
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