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Poll Results: Who will represent the Western Conference in the NBA Finals?

 
  • 25% (39)
    Thunder
  • 11% (17)
    Clippers
  • 18% (28)
    Spurs
  • 1% (3)
    Mavs
  • 1% (3)
    Grizzlies
  • 11% (18)
    Rockets
  • 9% (15)
    Kings
  • 18% (28)
    Warriors
  • 0% (0)
    Pelicans
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post #23551 of 38131

Not sure who said it but I agree with the idea of you not really knowing a player unless you were alive/conscious during their time of play. Highlights are one thing, but did you live during the era in which he played? Did you UNDERSTAND basketball during that time?

 

Being 8 when Jordan was playing doesn't count. You did not understand  what you were seeing with a developed basketball mind.

 

So sometimes, arguments vs someone of another generation will just be a waste of words

post #23552 of 38131
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Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican View Post

Not sure who said it but I agree with the idea of you not really knowing a player unless you were alive/conscious during their time of play. Highlights are one thing, but did you live during the era in which he played? Did you UNDERSTAND basketball during that time?

Being 8 when Jordan was playing doesn't count. You did not understand  what you were seeing with a developed basketball mind.

So sometimes, arguments vs someone of another generation will just be a waste of words

well, that of course was me. But thats belittling those who were young at the time, apparently.

I'm not the type to say anything about guys like Wilt, Elgin, West, Russell because I've only seen highlights. I can't speak about those players, so when my Dad talks about them, I let him be. Would be dumb of me to argue about a subject i have no real knowledge about.

But with some people, they think their expertise is so massive, that looking at some highlights is enough for them to give an opinion.

You pretty much summed up what I was saying in a more "gentle and positive" way. Arguments vs someone of another generation will just be a waste of words was exactly what i was trying to say. Thank you
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post #23553 of 38131
Oscar is underrated
post #23554 of 38131
I agree with that 100%. In terms of arguing one era over another. I might even go as far as its pointless.
post #23555 of 38131
Im old as dirt.

I would never bet against a team with prime michael jordan on it.
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post #23556 of 38131

Yea I thought it was you. Respect.

 

And I feel it is important to experience the cultural importance of a player because that can influence how we feel about players. How does the media portray that player? Did casual fans know them? "Urban myths" were more frequent back in the day to give older players larger than life legends. Those things matter when comparing players of different eras.

 

So yea, if you are only 23, don't tell me how great Larry Bird was

post #23557 of 38131
Jordan said something about how Kobe was the only player he felt could beat him 1-on-1 because Kobe was a carbon copy of him with some minor changes
post #23558 of 38131
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Originally Posted by NobleKane View Post

Im old as dirt.

I would never bet against a team with prime michael jordan on it.

That is kind of how I feel in all of these hypothetical conversations

post #23559 of 38131
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Originally Posted by NobleKane View Post

Im old as dirt.

I would never bet against a team with prime michael jordan on it.

exactly how I feel. Like its against my religion to go against prime MJ. Give him the NCAA all stars and I feel like I should still go his way.
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post #23560 of 38131
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Originally Posted by casper90403 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthSka 
In that case, 96 takes 92.

And 12.
Would it though? Take aways the players from both because they wash themselves out (Barkley, Stockton, Drob, Malone, Pippen).

That leaves '96: Richmond, GP, Penny, Grant, Miller, Dream, Shaq

vs.

'92: Bird, MJ, Magic, Ewing, Clyde, Mullin, Laettner,

Man, Laettner really dumbs it down.

I still feel like its '92 under the terms we're speaking of. But I have a feeling I'm still not understanding the topic being discussed.
Nah, see, I don't wash out those on both teams, because I don't think they cancel out.

96 Pippen is WORLDS better than 92.

Etc.

So 4 years improvement from those 5, and Laettner on the 92 squad, gimme 96.
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post #23561 of 38131
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Nah, see, I don't wash out those on both teams, because I don't think they cancel out.

96 Pippen is WORLDS better than 92.

Etc.

So 4 years improvement from those 5, and Laettner on the 92 squad, gimme 96.

wait, so i think I'm not understand the discussion. I was thinking every player on both teams are in their primes when they faced each other, so thats why i cancelled those players out.
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post #23562 of 38131
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exactly how I feel. Like its against my religion to go against prime MJ. Give him the NCAA all stars and I feel like I should still go his way.
same here and i always hated mj. kobe my fav player ever but a big difference between greatest and your favorite.
post #23563 of 38131

I hated Jordan as a child.

 

Mark Price is my all-time favorite. So yea, the Bulls always got the best of them.

 

I messed with Barkley back in the day as well as Ainge and Thunder Dan. Of course Jordan got the best of them too.

 

HATED damn Jordan man

post #23564 of 38131
Prime Jordan was like game 6 Lebron but more skilled
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post #23565 of 38131
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Originally Posted by Mister Friendly View Post

Prime Jordan was like game 6 Lebron but more skilled

:| 

 

So he's not like LeBron

"A wise man will be a master of his mind. A fool will be its slave"

 

Derrick Rose #KeepBelieving

 

"A wise man will be a master of his mind. A fool will be its slave"

 

Derrick Rose #KeepBelieving

 

post #23566 of 38131
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Originally Posted by ai3mac1 View Post
 

:|

agreed. cant compare the two. mj was just a whole different beast. 

post #23567 of 38131
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Originally Posted by casper90403 View Post


You;re (insert any bad word). Thats belittling.

Again, all I said was its ridiculous of me to have a discussion about something with someone who was 4 at the time of the event. I felt like I was doing the right thing and not debating with that person.

And you're adding more to it by saying I wouldn't take a persons opinion serious if he was young. Thats not exactly what I said. I said I would be an idiot for having that discussion. I don't go talking about Wilt Chamberlain because I wasn't around at that time. You need to take a look at what caused that discussion. It was apparent someone looked at a box score and said Shaq did well against Hakeem. I think we can agree box scores don't mean everything.

And again, all i said, AND I THINK IT WAS A VERY VALID POINT, was what era of rules are they playing? Thats kind of important. The old dudes would have a hard time playing in this era's rules because they are use to playing dirty aggressive, and vice versa. What was wrong with that? You had to follow you comment about that subject with go wash your face grandpa?

I think you're getting offended at everything I'm saying. Stop being so sensitive. But I can see why you are. What I'm saying really is for people like you. The truth hurts for some people.

repped . im not into the generation debate thing but i agree with you alot. i cant talk about magic cause i didnt get to watch him. all i see is random games , box scores and numbers / numbers meh. im not a numbers guys. numbers can lie. 

post #23568 of 38131
i never could hate MJ growing up in LA. Magic and then MJ were my all time favorites. Everything surrounding MJ at the time (kicks, apparel, swag) was just too much for me to dislike. I just couldn't get down with these:

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post #23569 of 38131
Rip to Stanley Johnson mom
post #23570 of 38131

Man when Jordan came back and Orlando put the Bulls out of the playoffs, I was like yea

post #23571 of 38131
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mister Friendly View Post

Prime Jordan was like game 6 Lebron but more skilled
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So he's not like LeBron

Jordan, Lebron and Kobe are all comparable
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post #23572 of 38131
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Originally Posted by Mister Friendly View Post


Jordan, Lebron and Kobe are all comparable

one of these is not like the others. 

post #23573 of 38131
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Originally Posted by Mister Friendly View Post


Jordan, Lebron and Kobe are all comparable

In terms of greatness, yes.

 

In terms of play style, of course we all say no

post #23574 of 38131
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Originally Posted by Mister Friendly View Post


Jordan, Lebron and Kobe are all comparable

They're all great players. That's about where it ends.

"A wise man will be a master of his mind. A fool will be its slave"

 

Derrick Rose #KeepBelieving

 

"A wise man will be a master of his mind. A fool will be its slave"

 

Derrick Rose #KeepBelieving

 

post #23575 of 38131
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Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican View Post
 

Man when Jordan came back and Orlando put the Bulls out of the playoffs, I was like yea

same here / was always rooting for mj to lose

post #23576 of 38131
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Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican View Post

Man when Jordan came back and Orlando put the Bulls out of the playoffs, I was like yea

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I felt that way with the Pistons. Couldn't stand them. So when MJ took the Pistons out, finally, man crush was in full affect
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post #23577 of 38131
Seeing MJ beat Butler at the buzzer in a shooting contest makes me smile.
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post #23578 of 38131
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i never could hate MJ growing up in LA. Magic and then MJ were my all time favorites. Everything surrounding MJ at the time (kicks, apparel, swag) was just too much for me to dislike. I just couldn't get down with these:

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post #23579 of 38131
I remember asking my mom to buy me those sneakers when they came out. She looked at them and said no way laugh.gif
post #23580 of 38131
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I remember asking my mom to buy me those sneakers when they came out. She looked at them and said no way laugh.gif

Moms was looking out for you!

Tried to get Mom to buy me AJ1's back in '85 and she said nope, you'll have these $20 reeboks instead

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