THE 2015 NBA PRE SEASON THREAD: BEST WISHES TO LAMAR ODOM

[addict4sneakers]

This. A Nene for Dirk trade is just laughable...

Dirk is Dallas he fills seats every night.

If things don't go right I could see Parsons/D-WIll/ Harris traded at the deadline IF anything

Dallas chances of making the playoffs next year with him is laughable. Out of respect for Dirk they should let him go. Doesn't have to be DC. That's just the Wizards fan in me tryna improve my team.

The Dallas Mavericks almost made the playoffs starting OJ Mayo, Mike James, and Elton Brand's corpse.

To say its laughable we can't make it this year is laughable

That was at the tail end of Dirks prime. My main man is 37 now. And he's still the best player on the team. That's not good

 

[suavamente]

Juice propelled us through half that season... Dirk was injured.

Look at all his teammates since 2011

http://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2015/7...-teammates-since-2011-ranked-dallas-mavericks

 

[SneakerProSr.]

This. A Nene for Dirk trade is just laughable...

Dirk is Dallas he fills seats every night.

If things don't go right I could see Parsons/D-WIll/ Harris traded at the deadline IF anything

Dallas chances of making the playoffs next year with him is laughable. Out of respect for Dirk they should let him go. Doesn't have to be DC. That's just the Wizards fan in me tryna improve my team.

The Dallas Mavericks almost made the playoffs starting OJ Mayo, Mike James, and Elton Brand's corpse.

To say its laughable we can't make it this year is laughable

That was at the tail end of Dirks prime. My main man is 37 now. And he's still the best player on the team. That's not good

Bro he missed damn near 30 games and his numbers that year are worse than last year.

 

[the collector]

Trading Dirk for nene doesn't make the Mavs better. You can trot Dirk out for a quarter and get more out of him than a full game of nene.

Separate what I'm saying. 2 totally different topics and perspectives. Follow me now.

When I say trade for Nene I'm saying that as a Wizards fan.

When I say trade Dirk to help the Mavs. "Doesn't have to be DC" as I said before. I'm speaking as in what's best for the Mavs. It's better for them to take the best offer for Dirk to help the franchise long term.

 

[do work son]

PG: Deron Williams, J.J. Barea, Raymond Felton
SG: Wesley Matthews, Devin Harris
SF: Chandler Parsons, Justin Anderson
PF: Dirk Nowitzki, Charlie Villanueva, Jeremy Evans, Dwight Powell
C: Zaza Pachulia

This roster with Matthews missing the first month or month in a half in the West :x

This probably Dirk's last year.

You don't put him on a crap team.

And you use this year to give the pick away if you are going to tank.

At worst this team is a 35 win team.

Does Dirk really retire if Cuban can work some magic next offseason? I think he retires if he falls short of bringing in another star player. I think that's how Dirk decides on retiring or not. Its just hard to see him basing his retirement off this upcoming season given the circumstances and he could probably sign a 1 year deal next offseason and just for names sake play with Durant in Dallas. Would he really retire if Dallas brought in KD?

Justin Anderson is going to have Wes Matthews not getting playing time til he's 100% healthy.

For the life of me I can figure out why yall think this is the final roster.

who do you realistically think they'll add before the season starts?

sidenote: i don't think yall really understand the economic effects of tanking.

another sidenote: next time you look at the sixers and see how trash they are, and look at the rockets and how good they are, take a look at the paths they took to get there.

 

[the collector]

GS
HTown
SA
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LAC
MEM
OKC

All better then Dallas and no matter who they add it won't make them better then those 7. If they get the 8th spot they'll lose 4-0 to whoever they play.

Why wouldn't you want to flat out tank if your a Mavs fan?

 

[addict4sneakers]

dirk's number were way down but took a major uptick when he came back from injury. That bearded playoff push was due to Dirk looking like the old Dirk.

The west is tougher and Dirk is older. It hurts my soul watching harden putting Dirk in high pick and rolls every trip down the court. I don't want to see the team get 8th only to have Westbrook picking on the old legend.

And the Mavs don't even have to Philly tank it. They have good pieces but they need to get younger. KG accepted his role, why can't Dirk?

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Players in their last years are normally on crap teams. It's like a rite of passage.

The mavs rebounding and defense was already bottom tier and they lost their best defenders and rebounders. They have no interior defense whatsoever. They also have no perimeter defense. Monta was a beast last year and carried them in so many 4th quarters.

Cuban outright said they would tank. He since changed his stance but his actions and the roster moves betray him.

yo Cat looks like uncle drew he's not even 40 yet

I saw him up close last year at a summer league by westwood. I was like who is this old *** man out here hooping . I mean he was COOKING, I had so much respect for him. And then someone told me it was cat Mobley

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

another sidenote: next time you look at the sixers and see how trash they are, and look at the rockets and how good they are, take a look at the paths they took to get there.

This is so funny to me. I read an article about how hinkle got the philly job based on this PowerPoint about the Harden trade. But from what I understand houston got all the assets for that trade in one summer and never tanked. So what the hell is he really doing in philly?

 

[trueprada]

 

[awwsome]

Juice propelled us through half that season... Dirk was injured.

Look at all his teammates since 2011

http://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2015/7...-teammates-since-2011-ranked-dallas-mavericks

:x

Dirk took a discount to play with trash, that's why I'm never for that.

 

[freeze]

that ray tee kinda raw.






**** ray allen doh

 

[do work son]

Juice propelled us through half that season... Dirk was injured.

Look at all his teammates since 2011

http://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2015/7...-teammates-since-2011-ranked-dallas-mavericks

:x

Dirk took a discount to play with trash, that's why I'm never for that.

mavs need to fire their GM. that's trash

 

[rck3sactown]

mavs need to fire their GM. that's trash

well well well 

 

[suavamente]

Quote:

mavs need to fire their GM. that's trash

Been saying Donnie trash for years... he gets too much credit for "discovering Dirk" when his dad was gonna pass on him in the draft and bringing together that 2011 team.

Lowkey jealous of Morey

 

[moneylicious]

that ray tee kinda raw.

 

yah..ima need to cop that tee for my bro. Info? 

 

 

[ill steelo]

Morey went from Mac & Yao to Harden & Dwight & stayed competitive the whole time.

He did get a major assist from "basketball reasons" tho, but impressive nonetheless

 

[shoeking2102]

 

[suavamente]

Yeah Morey did luck out.. but he's running things the right way now

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

K

 

[xbiker47]

at that Ray tee

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Yeah luck is involved but Morey always is ready and prepared with the assets to take advantage of someone else desperation.


Fans from other teams tell oh "it's not a big deal we gave up a first round pick for Adrien Payne" or "We basically got adrien payne for free"



But when the next fire sale happens, and you have adrien payne rotting on the bench and you don't have the assets to make a major upgrade.

 

[awwsome]

I don't think anybody was arguing that giving up a 1st for Payne was a good move.

 

[lver of jordan]

at that Ray tee

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

osh kosh bosh right. It's not so much about making great moves as it is limiting the terrible moves. Claiming it's mostly luck is such a doc rivers thing to say