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Who will represent the Western Conference in the NBA Finals?

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yeah one is an allege rapist :smh:

And one allegedly got his father killed over some gambling debts and the other is a certified narcissistic cornball, but can we stick to their on court exploits instead of being silly.

Stylistically two are in another realm to watch play. The other is a football player playing basketball.
 
i kid, i kid :lol:

yeah i agree with you guys, lebron shouldn't be mentioned with those two unless he wins at least 2 more rings without losing in the finals. but if he wins at least 4, he maybe can afford a lost in the final. it's hard to see that happening though.
 
So Lebron couldnt get 3 rings with prime Shaq :lol:

only if bron a jump shooter. I suspect tmac would've had a better chance with shaq than bron. bron doesnt move anywhere near like kobe did. bron would've been crashing into shaq every other play.
 
So Lebron couldnt  didnt get 3 rings with prime Shaq
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see last option in current thread poll

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Statisically Lebron and Kobe are comparable, in fact Lebron actually has better stats in most cases but lets just say Lebron stat pads or whatever,

The main argument hardcore Kobe fans use is the ring argument, Kobe was a strong force with Shaq on those Lakers team but lets not act like a player as great as Lebron couldnt have won 3 rings with Shaq

Shaq was more important to those teams than Kobe, although it was close....Kobe has 2 rings as the most important guy on the team, the same as Lebron
 
It's not about stats. How do they fit together? Lebron in his 4th, 5th, and 6th years is an entirely different player than he is today. Kobe was the best perimeter player in the league,

Bron in his 10th, 11th, and 12th seasons still has players who have been dominant post scorers camping out at the 3 point line and you're just going to thrust him into the lineup with the most dominant guy down low ever when his jumper was nowhere near as developed and everything was driving to the hole and think you're still getting 3 rings nah. Outside of 2001, Lakers could have easily not even made the Finals. This isn't 2K plug and play. Shaq and Bean were the perfect inside outside combo.
 
It's not about stats. How do they fit together? Lebron in his 4th, 5th, and 6th years is an entirely different player than he is today. Kobe was the best perimeter player in the league,

Bron in his 10th, 11th, and 12th seasons still has players who have been dominant post scorers camping out at the 3 point line and you're just going to thrust him into the lineup with the most dominant guy down low ever when his jumper was nowhere near as developed and everything was driving to the hole and think you're still getting 3 rings nah. Outside of 2001, Lakers could have easily not even made the Finals. This isn't 2K plug and play. Shaq and Bean were the perfect inside outside combo.
This guy gets it. 
 
Was Lebron as good of a shooter as Kobe? No

But Lebron wasn't a bad shooter either

But he also wouldn't have taken dumb shots outside of the flow of the Triangle like Kobe routinely did. He also display elite court vision at that age something Kobe never did. At the end of the day, when you factor in the pros and cons it's a draw
 
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It's not about stats. How do they fit together? Lebron in his 4th, 5th, and 6th years is an entirely different player than he is today. Kobe was the best perimeter player in the league,

Bron in his 10th, 11th, and 12th seasons still has players who have been dominant post scorers camping out at the 3 point line and you're just going to thrust him into the lineup with the most dominant guy down low ever when his jumper was nowhere near as developed and everything was driving to the hole and think you're still getting 3 rings nah. Outside of 2001, Lakers could have easily not even made the Finals. This isn't 2K plug and play. Shaq and Bean were the perfect inside outside combo.
 
It's not about stats. How do they fit together? Lebron in his 4th, 5th, and 6th years is an entirely different player than he is today. Kobe was the best perimeter player in the league,

Bron in his 10th, 11th, and 12th seasons still has players who have been dominant post scorers camping out at the 3 point line and you're just going to thrust him into the lineup with the most dominant guy down low ever when his jumper was nowhere near as developed and everything was driving to the hole and think you're still getting 3 rings nah. Outside of 2001, Lakers could have easily not even made the Finals. This isn't 2K plug and play. Shaq and Bean were the perfect inside outside combo.

Yes, but don‘t forget the role players. They did so much on a consistent basis. In some ways, you could say they found the right formula.

Btw, Malone was still doing it, but not Payton. I have no idea who really took part in deciding who should stay, or go, but LA found the perfect players in the right spots durinf that run.

Shaq was batman and Kobe was robin during those years. Bur I am glad they both won in the latter parts of their career.

Horry throwing up dat BS shot against Webber though. lol Ignited it.
 
Robin in 2000 although I do remember a pretty significant Game 4 in the Finals.

Superman and Batman, World's Finest in 01 and 02.
 
LeBron & Shaq absolutely would have worked so long as the franchise was committed to filling the roster out.

Those of you saying it has to be a certain way, picture yourself in 1990 saying, "Scottie & Mike are great, but it won't work. Needs to be inside out. They need a center."

Not really, no, they don't.

When you have 2 of the all time greatest at their position, a healthy franchise is what is needed for that to work.
 
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