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Who will represent the Western Conference in the NBA Finals?

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Yeah let's just forget the fact that in 2004, Payton was past his prime and played matador defense; and Kobe had to do his best in covering for him by chasing around Billups, (watch the game film, the second Billups was one step ahead of Payton, the Glove just gave up and Kobe often had to leave Rip and chase Billups to the rim.) Not to mention he also had to switch back on Rip on most of those plays. One would be a fool to think that fatigue was not a factor. Add one of the best defenses in Finals history, and there you go, that's why Kobe's FG was low. Yes, there were multiple HOFs on the team, but Malone and Payton were both clearly past their prime and Malone didn't even play the final few games. Please educate yourself.

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Kobe was guarding Rip AND Chauncey at the same time? No wonder he was tired
 
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Most overrated superstar in NBA history.

2-4, carried by Wade and Bosh to his only titles. Gets carried by a dude named Delly in another finals win.

But hey, win shares, OMAF, and PER.

He's really only overrated if you compare him to Jordan, Kareem, Russell.

Lebron aint a Chris Paul or James Harden where you can say hes just a stat boy.

He has wins, clutch moments, team turnarounds, NBA MVPs, NBA Finals MVPs, All-Defense teams basically anything an individual player can do....Lebron has done it.

Wade and Bosh didn't carry him to titles, he was the main cog in their titles.

Lebron is legit one of the greatest players in NBA history.
 
He's really only overrated if you compare him to Jordan, Kareem, Russell.

Lebron aint a Chris Paul or James Harden where you can say hes just a stat boy.

He has wins, clutch moments, team turnarounds, NBA MVPs, NBA Finals MVPs, All-Defense teams basically anything an individual player can do....Lebron has done it.

Wade and Bosh didn't carry him to titles, he was the main cog in their titles.

Lebron is legit one of the greatest players in NBA history.
like I've said Forever. He's the NBA equivalent to Peyton manning.
 
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He's really only overrated if you compare him to Jordan, Kareem, Russell.

Lebron aint a Chris Paul or James Harden where you can say hes just a stat boy.

He has wins, clutch moments, team turnarounds, NBA MVPs, NBA Finals MVPs, All-Defense teams basically anything an individual player can do....Lebron has done it.

Wade and Bosh didn't carry him to titles, he was the main cog in their titles.

Lebron is legit one of the greatest players in NBA history.
like I've said Forever. He's the NBA equivalent to Peyton manning.

Peyton Manning is still solidly one of the top 5 quarterbacks of all time though.
 
Most overrated superstar in NBA history.

2-4, carried by Wade and Bosh to his only titles. Gets carried by a dude named Delly in another finals win.

But hey, win shares, OMAF, and PER.

He's really only overrated if you compare him to Jordan, Kareem, Russell.

Lebron aint a Chris Paul or James Harden where you can say hes just a stat boy.

He has wins, clutch moments, team turnarounds, NBA MVPs, NBA Finals MVPs, All-Defense teams basically anything an individual player can do....Lebron has done it.

Wade and Bosh didn't carry him to titles, he was the main cog in their titles.

Lebron is legit one of the greatest players in NBA history.

I def feel what you're saying but didn't lebron say something about him and mount rushmores or something :rofl: :rofl:
 
Peyton Manning is still solidly one of the top 5 quarterbacks of all time though.
you can be great and overrated. Peyton manning is probably the best regular season QB ever but that's where it ends.goat tho , not at all. Same way I look at lj. Dude overrates himself with his mount Rushmore nonsense. Real recognize real that's why the goat doesn't co-sign him.
 
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Most overrated superstar in NBA history.

2-4, carried by Wade and Bosh to his only titles. Gets carried by a dude named Delly in another finals win.

But hey, win shares, OMAF, and PER.
He's really only overrated if you compare him to Jordan, Kareem, Russell.

Lebron aint a Chris Paul or James Harden where you can say hes just a stat boy.

He has wins, clutch moments, team turnarounds, NBA MVPs, NBA Finals MVPs, All-Defense teams basically anything an individual player can do....Lebron has done it.

Wade and Bosh didn't carry him to titles, he was the main cog in their titles.

Lebron is legit one of the greatest players in NBA history.
I def feel what you're saying but didn't lebron say something about him and mount rushmores or something
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"I'm going to be one of the top four that's ever played this game, for sure," he said. "And if they don't want me to have one of those top four spots, they'd better find another spot on that mountain. Somebody's gotta get bumped, but that's not for me to decide. That's for the architects."

- Feb 2014

follows this up with two straight finals losses 
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Peyton Manning is still solidly one of the top 5 quarterbacks of all time though.
you can be great and overrated. Peyton manning is probably the best regular season QB ever but that's where it ends.

Yeah Lebron may be overrated if you compare him to Jordan or say hes without a doubt ahead of the likes of Duncan, Kobe, Magic, Bird, Wilt, Shaq.

The same if somebody says Peyton is the greatest quarterback of all time.
 
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"I'm going to be one of the top four that's ever played this game, for sure," he said. "And if they don't want me to have one of those top four spots, they'd better find another spot on that mountain. Somebody's gotta get bumped, but that's not for me to decide. That's for the architects."
- Feb 2014

follows this up with two straight finals losses :rofl:
what an idiot.

When you have to tell yourself your great , it says alot
. Other people should speak of how great you are.
 
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lebron would be a lot more likeable if he never talked to the media ever

every quote he drops on us ends up backfiring for him 
 
 
lebron would be a lot more likeable if he never talked to the media ever

every quote he drops on us ends up backfiring for him 
A lot more likeable? He's pretty likeable tbh

Look around, y'all on NT are literally like the only people who dislike him
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not true. I would say 90% of the people I encounter in real life where I'm from hate lebron.
Lebron literally almost got the finals MVP in a loss. He was in serious consideration for it. There's no way if he's not extremely likeable that that happens. 

NT is also the place where people go to extreme lengths to try and discredit what he's done in his career.
 
In my City, the only people I hear badmouthing Lebron are the Little Twerps who think Curry is the GOAT. 

They're like 6-11 year olds though
 
Lebron literally almost got the finals MVP in a loss. He was in serious consideration for it. There's no way if he's not extremely likeable that that happens. 

NT is also the place where people go to extreme lengths to try and discredit what he's done in his career.
you just stated he's only hated by people on NT. He's a polarizing player and I know very few lj fans in real life. He's hated by many and the majority in my neck of the woods..
 
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not true. I would say 90% of the people I encounter in real life where I'm from hate lebron.
Lebron literally almost got the finals MVP in a loss. He was in serious consideration for it. There's no way if he's not extremely likeable that that happens. 

NT is also the place where people go to extreme lengths to try and discredit what he's done in his career.
curry might be the only superstar without an army of haters 

lebron and kobe both have by far the most fans and most haters 
 
you just stated he's only hated by people on NT. He's a polarizing player and I know very few lj fans in real life. He's hated by many and the majority in my neck of the woods..
Well I know a lot of LJ fans in real life. See how that logic works?

And he's absolutely a polarizing player, but he's been far more likeable than you would think.
 
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