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Who will represent the Western Conference in the NBA Finals?

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these announcers for Italia v Deutschland are amazing 
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There is no question in my mind that LeBron has had it much easier in the east over his career. Almost cringe worthy tbh

At the same time there is no question in my mind that Kobe, Jordan, Duncan, Magic and Bird had a whole hell of a lot better teams throughout their careers
 
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Out of sheer curiosity, can someone do further breakdown of this above?
How many 50+ win teams did each man face in the playoffs?
How many total postseasons?
 
Lebby has played in 10 postseasons, been to the Finals six times, and eliminated seven 50+ win teams.

That's sad.

East really is hot trash.
 
It isnt Lebron's fault that the east has been bad. You play who you play.

Right, but if you're going to get into ranking all-time great players (which I like to avoid), its hard not to take the competition they faced into account. Lebby has had very little competition in the East, which I think is a fair factor to consider when comparing him to guys like Magic, MJ and even Kobe.
 
With all that being said, if LeBron played on Shaq's Laker team I fully believe he would have the same number of titles and wins as Kobe did, if they switched places
 
Right, but if you're going to get into ranking all-time great players (which I like to avoid), its hard not to take the competition they faced into account. Lebby has had very little competition in the East, which I think is a fair factor to consider when comparing him to guys like Magic, MJ and even Kobe.


Ehh, Magic and MJ played in a less talented era overall though, some of those 50 win teams they beat wouldn't have 50 wins in today's game.

Kobe is really the only comparison since they both played in the same era and he's still way better than Kobe regardless of what conference they played in.
 
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Ehh, Magic and MJ played in a less talented era overall though, some of those 50 win teams they beat wouldn't have 50 wins in today's game.

Kobe is really the only comparison since they both played in the same era and he's still way better than Kobe regardless of what conference they played in.

Not sure I agree with the statement about the Magic and MJ-era NBA being having less talent than today. The athleticism is certainly better overall now, but I'm not sure the league is filled with overall better basketball players. Plus, the rules today are much more offensively favorable, so its a bit tricky to compare.
 
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