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THE 2015 NBA PRE SEASON THREAD: BEST WISHES TO LAMAR ODOM
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me too. idk if we can even judge him yet. the cavs made a lot of coaching errors in the finals but idk if thats on blatt or lebronYou gotta give Blatt some respect for handling an awful situation pretty gracefully. I get he's a rookie coach and all but it's not like he's a young former college coach in his 30's, dudes been around in Europe and had success. To treat him so direspectfully like reported is pretty damn disappointing. I'm low key rooting for Blatt to succeed
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the media always has to find a way to tie Lebron into everythingso meaningless
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Sounds like it's all Lebron, to me.
I'm going to tweet Windhorst and ask, at least I know he will respond.
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$615K for that!?
house next door to mine is not even half that size & it's listed for $600K :x :x
Half bedroom shoe boxes in NY are about that much
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The final, cosmic payoff came on Tuesday with lights, chants, screams of exaltation, and the clear-bell clang of championship destiny.
The Warriors were meant to win the title in exactly this way, with exactly these players, at this perfect moment in time for the franchise and its long-suffering fans.
And this will be celebrated once and for all during a parade on Friday, which surely will be a Bay Area moment for the ages.
But the Warriors’ 2015 NBA championship didn’t always seem inevitable—in fact, the very idea seemed ridiculous even a few years ago.
Some of the steps taken to get to this point were loud, some were embarrassing, some were quiet, and all of them were essential pieces to one of the great puzzle-solving feats of our time.
Here are 12 golden Warriors moments that led to this golden achievement…
June 2009: The Warriors draft Stephen Curry seventh overall.
This changed everything, though it took some time.
Early in his Warriors tenure, Curry had to deal with Monta Ellis’ displeasure, Keith Smart’s coaching choices and his own severe ankle issues.
But simply put, the Warriors’ rise is Curry’s rise.
If Minnesota had selected Curry sixth instead of Jonny Flynn, or if Don Nelson and Larry Riley decided to trade Curry to Phoenix (and then-GM Steve Kerr) for Amare Stoudemire… the Warriors’ title drought would now be at 41 years, and counting.
July 2010: Joe Lacob and Peter Guber agree to purchase the franchise from Chris Cohan for a then-record $450 million, beating out Larry Ellison.
This was the first of many surprise victories for the Lacob group and set the tone for its frantic, demanding, free-spending management style.
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In short order, Lacob fired Don Nelson, hired Bob Myers and then Jerry West for his basketball staff and generally burned away every corrosive bit of the Cohan regime and set up Lacob’s own Silicon Vally/venture
capitalist work shop.
March 2012: Monta Ellis is traded in a package to acquire then-injured Andrew Bogut from Milwaukee.
No single move of the Lacob/Myers/West era signified more—they traded offense for defense, small for big, now for later, instant fan-popularity for the promise of future significance.
Oh, and they also cleared the field for Curry to take over as the team’s singular leader and set up Klay Thompson (drafted in 2011) to be his ideal back court running mate.
The previous regime would’ve never made this trade; which mean this group [beg ital] had [end ital] to do it.
March 19, 2012: At a ceremony to honor Chris Mullin, the Oracle crowd heckles and boos Lacob until he gives up trying to give his speech.
On this night, Lacob’s rushing imperative butted up against the frustrations of Warriors fans—mad about the Ellis trade, about Lacob and Guber’s plans to move the team to San Francisco, about his decision to speak right before Mullin and about many other things.
Consider this Lacob’s trial by ire: He could’ve frozen and gone underground after this, but instead he kept pushing. He had to get through this to prove he didn’t deserve it.
June 2011 and May 2014: Mark Jackson is hired as coach; Jackson is fired as coach.
He promised he’d shake up this franchise, and that’s exactly what Jackson did—it was necessary, it put the Warriors back on their feet as a tougher, edgier, defensive-minded playoff-caliber team…
And then it had to end, when Jackson’s bombastic personality clashed with too many people in the organization and his limited offensive repertoire stalled out in the playoffs.
September 2014: New coach Steve Kerr plays Pebble Beach with Lacob, Stephen and Dell Curry.
This was a sign to everyone in the organization:
Curry put himself on the line supporting Jackson, but he wasn’t going to disrupt Kerr’s first months as coach and in fact Curry was signaling that he was ready to sign on.
Kerr took the first steps by visiting each major player on the team—including a trip to Australia to visit Bogut.
But Curry was the obviously the key, and this round of golf showed that he wasn’t enraged with Lacob for firing Jackson and that he could and would embrace the new offensive ideas Kerr was already presenting to him.
The result was an emotional bridge between Jackson’s team and Kerr’s team—Kerr respected many of the things Jackson accomplished and allowed the players to keep their “Just us!” chant.
Fall 2014: Andre Iguodala accepts a bench role behind Harrison Barnes.
After winning the title, Kerr called this the key to the team’s emotional balance throughout this season, and I’m not going to argue.
Once Iguodala agreed to the demotion, how could any other player—including David Lee, after his injury allowed Draymond Green to take his starting role—complain about any move that Kerr believed would help the team?
Fall 2014: Kerr snaps at the team for the first time early in the regular season after some sluggish practice play.
The immediate player response to Kerr: “We’ve been waiting for that!”
I tried to find out exactly which player issued this response and every player I asked shrugged his shoulders, named several possibilities, then included Curry as a main option.
Let’s go with him. Along with Kerr’s humor and thoughtfulness, the players wanted to feel some of Kerr’s bite, and they got it. They’d get more.
May 4: Curry’s touching, hilarious 23-minute tribute to each of his teammates during his MVP speech.
While I was listening to it, I thought: This should and probably will be playing in a loop at the Hall of Fame some day, with the title, “The Story of the 2015 NBA Champions.”
May 9-10: After the Warriors lose Game 3 in Memphis to go down 2-1 in the second round, Green gets Curry out to the Blues City Café for some late-night dinner and then Kerr cancels practice the next day and Curry and Iguodala go play some golf.
These were the hours that refreshed the Warriors during their greatest crisis.
Then Kerr’s staff came up with huge defensive adjustments for Game 4 that changed the series and put them back on course for the championship.
These adjustments were a premonition for the Warriors’ Game 4 small-ball adjustments that changed the NBA finals, too.
June 11: Green gives a stirring shoot-around speech in the hours before Game 4 in Cleveland.
Three things re-calibrated the Warriors after losing Games 2 and 3 to Cleveland—the move to small ball, Curry’s scorching fourth-quarter performance in Game 3 (the MVP declares himself in the final round), and this rousing call by the Warriors’ emotional heartbeat.
The Warriors won Games 4, 5 and 6 by a combined 44 points.
Late night, June 16: Curry and Klay Thompson sit on the podium as new champions.
Thompson: “It just feels good to say we’re the best team in the world with the best player in the world.”
Curry: “Appreciate it, man.”
The Warriors had just taken on and defeated LeBron James, they had won their 83rdgame of this marathon season, they had celebrated on court and in the locker room with more celebrations to come, but this little exchange communicated so much, also.
The Warriors are champions, and they’re still entirely, politely and powerfully themselves.
The final, cosmic payoff came on Tuesday with lights, chants, screams of exaltation, and the clear-bell clang of championship destiny.
The Warriors were meant to win the title in exactly this way, with exactly these players, at this perfect moment in time for the franchise and its long-suffering fans.
And this will be celebrated once and for all during a parade on Friday, which surely will be a Bay Area moment for the ages.
But the Warriors’ 2015 NBA championship didn’t always seem inevitable—in fact, the very idea seemed ridiculous even a few years ago.
Some of the steps taken to get to this point were loud, some were embarrassing, some were quiet, and all of them were essential pieces to one of the great puzzle-solving feats of our time.
Here are 12 golden Warriors moments that led to this golden achievement…
June 2009: The Warriors draft Stephen Curry seventh overall.
This changed everything, though it took some time.
Early in his Warriors tenure, Curry had to deal with Monta Ellis’ displeasure, Keith Smart’s coaching choices and his own severe ankle issues.
But simply put, the Warriors’ rise is Curry’s rise.
If Minnesota had selected Curry sixth instead of Jonny Flynn, or if Don Nelson and Larry Riley decided to trade Curry to Phoenix (and then-GM Steve Kerr) for Amare Stoudemire… the Warriors’ title drought would now be at 41 years, and counting.
July 2010: Joe Lacob and Peter Guber agree to purchase the franchise from Chris Cohan for a then-record $450 million, beating out Larry Ellison.
This was the first of many surprise victories for the Lacob group and set the tone for its frantic, demanding, free-spending management style.
Advertisement
In short order, Lacob fired Don Nelson, hired Bob Myers and then Jerry West for his basketball staff and generally burned away every corrosive bit of the Cohan regime and set up Lacob’s own Silicon Vally/venture
capitalist work shop.
March 2012: Monta Ellis is traded in a package to acquire then-injured Andrew Bogut from Milwaukee.
No single move of the Lacob/Myers/West era signified more—they traded offense for defense, small for big, now for later, instant fan-popularity for the promise of future significance.
Oh, and they also cleared the field for Curry to take over as the team’s singular leader and set up Klay Thompson (drafted in 2011) to be his ideal back court running mate.
The previous regime would’ve never made this trade; which mean this group [beg ital] had [end ital] to do it.
March 19, 2012: At a ceremony to honor Chris Mullin, the Oracle crowd heckles and boos Lacob until he gives up trying to give his speech.
On this night, Lacob’s rushing imperative butted up against the frustrations of Warriors fans—mad about the Ellis trade, about Lacob and Guber’s plans to move the team to San Francisco, about his decision to speak right before Mullin and about many other things.
Consider this Lacob’s trial by ire: He could’ve frozen and gone underground after this, but instead he kept pushing. He had to get through this to prove he didn’t deserve it.
June 2011 and May 2014: Mark Jackson is hired as coach; Jackson is fired as coach.
He promised he’d shake up this franchise, and that’s exactly what Jackson did—it was necessary, it put the Warriors back on their feet as a tougher, edgier, defensive-minded playoff-caliber team…
And then it had to end, when Jackson’s bombastic personality clashed with too many people in the organization and his limited offensive repertoire stalled out in the playoffs.
September 2014: New coach Steve Kerr plays Pebble Beach with Lacob, Stephen and Dell Curry.
This was a sign to everyone in the organization:
Curry put himself on the line supporting Jackson, but he wasn’t going to disrupt Kerr’s first months as coach and in fact Curry was signaling that he was ready to sign on.
Kerr took the first steps by visiting each major player on the team—including a trip to Australia to visit Bogut.
But Curry was the obviously the key, and this round of golf showed that he wasn’t enraged with Lacob for firing Jackson and that he could and would embrace the new offensive ideas Kerr was already presenting to him.
The result was an emotional bridge between Jackson’s team and Kerr’s team—Kerr respected many of the things Jackson accomplished and allowed the players to keep their “Just us!” chant.
Fall 2014: Andre Iguodala accepts a bench role behind Harrison Barnes.
After winning the title, Kerr called this the key to the team’s emotional balance throughout this season, and I’m not going to argue.
Once Iguodala agreed to the demotion, how could any other player—including David Lee, after his injury allowed Draymond Green to take his starting role—complain about any move that Kerr believed would help the team?
Fall 2014: Kerr snaps at the team for the first time early in the regular season after some sluggish practice play.
The immediate player response to Kerr: “We’ve been waiting for that!”
I tried to find out exactly which player issued this response and every player I asked shrugged his shoulders, named several possibilities, then included Curry as a main option.
Let’s go with him. Along with Kerr’s humor and thoughtfulness, the players wanted to feel some of Kerr’s bite, and they got it. They’d get more.
May 4: Curry’s touching, hilarious 23-minute tribute to each of his teammates during his MVP speech.
While I was listening to it, I thought: This should and probably will be playing in a loop at the Hall of Fame some day, with the title, “The Story of the 2015 NBA Champions.”
May 9-10: After the Warriors lose Game 3 in Memphis to go down 2-1 in the second round, Green gets Curry out to the Blues City Café for some late-night dinner and then Kerr cancels practice the next day and Curry and Iguodala go play some golf.
These were the hours that refreshed the Warriors during their greatest crisis.
Then Kerr’s staff came up with huge defensive adjustments for Game 4 that changed the series and put them back on course for the championship.
These adjustments were a premonition for the Warriors’ Game 4 small-ball adjustments that changed the NBA finals, too.
June 11: Green gives a stirring shoot-around speech in the hours before Game 4 in Cleveland.
Three things re-calibrated the Warriors after losing Games 2 and 3 to Cleveland—the move to small ball, Curry’s scorching fourth-quarter performance in Game 3 (the MVP declares himself in the final round), and this rousing call by the Warriors’ emotional heartbeat.
The Warriors won Games 4, 5 and 6 by a combined 44 points.
Late night, June 16: Curry and Klay Thompson sit on the podium as new champions.
Thompson: “It just feels good to say we’re the best team in the world with the best player in the world.”
Curry: “Appreciate it, man.”
The Warriors had just taken on and defeated LeBron James, they had won their 83rdgame of this marathon season, they had celebrated on court and in the locker room with more celebrations to come, but this little exchange communicated so much, also.
The Warriors are champions, and they’re still entirely, politely and powerfully themselves.
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bron lost it all b
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Freeze Frame u a fool lmao
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Ramona Shelburne [emoji]10004[/emoji] @ramonashelburne
It's the Finals and cameras are on LeBron. Kobe/MJ would speak up if they disagreed w/Phil. Difference is we know they respected Phil.
2:22 PM - 18 Jun 2015
Ramona Shelburne [emoji]10004[/emoji] @ramonashelburne
(Continued) and when LBJ disrespects a coach, it gives rest of team license to also. It's a problem Cavs & LBJ need to deal with
2:34 PM - 18 Jun 2015
"I didn't know we could do that" ~ Earl Swish
It's the Finals and cameras are on LeBron. Kobe/MJ would speak up if they disagreed w/Phil. Difference is we know they respected Phil.
2:22 PM - 18 Jun 2015
Ramona Shelburne [emoji]10004[/emoji] @ramonashelburne
(Continued) and when LBJ disrespects a coach, it gives rest of team license to also. It's a problem Cavs & LBJ need to deal with
2:34 PM - 18 Jun 2015
"I didn't know we could do that" ~ Earl Swish
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"but I did know we couldn't do that" - chip
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Max contract just for offensive boards? PASS.
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blatt about to get 'wiggins-ed' for mark jackson
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Sure did
He didn't try to pull rank on Windhorst when it comes to Lebron, did he?
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How is this news? You could tell all season long the team didn't respect Blatt. He has no legacy here. Hasn't done **** here. Comes here and gets a job, completely new to the NBA. Very different game where he comes from. Cleveland should fire him.
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If this happens, Lebron will be somewhere in Crotia, or the moon on vacation while this is happening.
He won't be around to take blame, say bye, look Blatt or the Media in the eye.
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All over a Netflix account Gilbert? Now I understand why he came in with the tooly
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cavs better get well acquainted with Rich Paul for however much longer LeBron is in town
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TT want the max as he should
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