OFFICIAL NFL Discussion Thread: 2015-16 Season - Congrats to the Denver Broncos and their fans! SB 5

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Man what the **** happened 
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Went 0-100 real quick.

Chesters new avy
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I just want to know how far he was going with this betting against romo thing
 
Since we have some new arrivals:

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http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/13533995/split-nfl-new-england-patriots-apart

Here's the Sports Illustrated article on the same subject:
http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/09/08/patriots-cheating-suspicions-bill-belichick-tom-brady?xid=si_social

Make sure to read them, people. Don't let your vision be clouded. Free your mind.

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I dunno man. I'm reading all this, and all I can think of is years and years of sour grapes, but none of this came out before? Cheating in 2000, comes out in 2015? :x

I'm sure some of it is true, I'm also sure 31 other teams do shady stuff like it. NE just does it better, I guess. *shrugs*


Fake signals, hands over your mouth as you call in plays, etc are not all designed to fake out the Patriots, every team is watching.

Stealing play sheets out of locker rooms? :lol: Come on. The Patriots aren't the damn boogie man, Jesus.
 
CP using the Pro-Patriots "every team is doing it" logic yet again.

Water is wet, sky is blue, Patriots caught cheating, CP defending them. :lol:
 
I dunno man. I'm reading all this, and all I can think of is years and years of sour grapes, but none of this came out before? Cheating in 2000, comes out in 2015?
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I'm sure some of it is true, I'm also sure 31 other teams do shady stuff like it. NE just does it better, I guess. *shrugs*


Fake signals, hands over your mouth as you call in plays, etc are not all designed to fake out the Patriots, every team is watching.

Stealing play sheets out of locker rooms?
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Come on. The Patriots aren't the damn boogie man, Jesus.
Sour grapes is pretty spot on. All teams do shady stuff, they just don't get ratted out by former assistant coaches like the Pats did.

The same people who call out ESPN for they low level of journalism will cling to this dribble because of their disdain for the Patriots.
 
CP using the Pro-Patriots "every team is doing it" logic yet again.

Water is wet, sky is blue, Patriots caught cheating, CP defending them. :lol:

Hey, I have more of an axe to grind than ANY of you, I'm in their damn division. But I'm telling you, every team does it.

Check the 2006 dust up over Jason Taylor/Zach Thomas, and the Pats. We "stole" their signal calls, and blanked them 20-0. Brady and the Pats waved us off like it was nothin, and they're probably right.

The New England Patriots didn't invent sign stealing, or figuring out how to identify playcalls "magically".

Think of ALL the players, and coaches that have left the Pats, to go to other teams, they haven't informed all 31 other teams of this or that? And those 31 other teams all kept quiet, for a decade and a half? *shrugs* None of that adds up to me.
 
Hey, I have more of an axe to grind than ANY of you, I'm in their damn division. But I'm telling you, every team does it.

Check the 2006 dust up over Jason Taylor/Zach Thomas, and the Pats. We "stole" their signal calls, and blanked them 20-0. Brady and the Pats waved us off like it was nothin, and they're probably right.

The New England Patriots didn't invent sign stealing, or figuring out how to identify playcalls "magically".

Think of ALL the players, and coaches that have left the Pats, to go to other teams, they haven't informed all 31 other teams of this or that? And those 31 other teams all kept quiet, for a decade and a half? *shrugs* None of that adds up to me.
Stop it CP, you're making too much sense.
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My favorite part is the fact that people keep defending the Patriots.

Like, they're only one piece of the puzzle. There's also a lot more to it than just 'stealing signals.'

Do y'all not realize that Roger looks just as bad, if not worse, in all of this? :nerd:
 
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