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You're a Husky.
Do you want me to pull scores from the last 10 years?
Do you want me to pull scores from the last 10 years?
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Now it's "Nobody said he's great"
All I know is when I said he's average, reached his potential and not going to be a great NFL quarterback...It was you don't watch ****, he out dueled whoever( which was a lie) his defense sucks, his coaching sucks or whatever.
Later this season when he throws for 350 and a few TDs, it going back to hyping Tannehill again with random photos of him and word franchise being used again.
Exactly, you only grasp great, or average and reached peak. That's what your brain can handle.
Like it has been said, multiple times, he hasn't reached his peak, but he's not "Great" either. But he clearly has a chance, the possibility, to move into that 10-12 range of QB's IF he continues to elevate his play, as he has done 3 years straight.
See how that works? Needle doesn't have to be on Great, nor on reached his peak. It's quite possible to be 27, and still improving. You understand that?
The dude is in his 4th year in the NFL we need more than vague answers.
If he continues to mprove doesn't cut it.
Where does Tannehill exactly rank now ? Is he a franchise quarterback? Is he average, good, great?
Is he more than a game manager?
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Guess so.
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Lol I like Oregon but that's pretty funny
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New York Giants running back Rashad Jennings confirmed Monday that he was ordered not to score on two run plays inside the Dallas Cowboys' 5-yard line with less than two minutes left in Sunday night's game and the Giants leading by three.
"On the first-down play, I was told, 'Rashad, don't score,'" Jennings said. "On second down, 'Rashad, don't score.' I was tempted to say, 'Forget it,' and go score because I could. But I didn't want to be that guy. But definitely, I was asked not to score."
Jennings said his orders came in the huddle from quarterback Eli Manning, who spoke with him after the game and took responsibility for the way things turned out -- a 27-26 loss. Jennings said he was under the impression that Manning was relaying orders he got from the sideline.
Offensive coordinator Ben McAdoo is the Giants' offensive playcaller, but coach Tom Coughlin has the power to overrule him. Coughlin took responsibility for the late-game play calling Sunday night. McAdoo is permitted to speak to the media only once a week, and not after games.
After the game, Jennings told ESPN, "As a running back, it's really tough when they tell you not to score," but didn't elaborate.
Jennings said this was the first time he has been given such an order since he was in college, and back then the reason was that his team had a lead and a chance to run out the clock with the ball still in its hands. That wasn't the case Sunday, but it still was odd to ask Jennings not to score.
Had he scored a touchdown on first down and Josh Brown hit the 33-yard extra point, the Giants would have led by 10 with 1:50 left. Had he scored on second down, there would have been 1:43 left.
Part of the problem was that the Giants were confused about the timeout situation. Jennings said Monday that he and the rest of the team believed the Cowboys had called their final timeout after the first-down play. That was based on the belief that the Cowboys had called their second timeout after Odell Beckham Jr.'s third-down catch the play before.
But Dallas had not called a timeout there. The clock had stopped because the Cowboys were called for an offside penalty on Beckham's catch. Even though the Giants declined the penalty, the rules say the clock stops after such a penalty in the final five minutes of the fourth quarter.
When Jennings was told not to score on second down, the Giants believed they would be able to churn 40 seconds off the clock and run their third-down play with a little more than a minute to go. When the Cowboys stopped the clock with 1:43 to go after the second-down run, the Giants were surprised.
As for the runs themselves, Jennings insists he could have scored on either one.
"On one of them it would've been a grind," Jennings said. "But on the other, I cut the wrong way [on purpose] and found somewhere soft to fall."
Jennings and the Giants were obviously disappointed to lose a game they led by three with the ball on the opponent's 1-yard line and less than two minutes to go. Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo went down the field "like a knife through butter," in the words of Coughlin, for the game-winning score after Manning threw an incomplete pass on third down and the Giants settled for a field goal.
But while the instructions surprised him, Jennings wanted to make it clear that he wasn't second-guessing whoever told him not to score.
"I'm not mad," he said. "We're doing this as a team, and we thought it was best for us not to score at that point. Of course I wanted to, but that's just the football player in you."
The night didn't get a lot better for the Giants, whose departure from Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport was held up until 4 a.m. CT, delaying their arrival in Newark, New Jersey, to 9 a.m. ET.
So strange.
"On the first-down play, I was told, 'Rashad, don't score,'" Jennings said. "On second down, 'Rashad, don't score.' I was tempted to say, 'Forget it,' and go score because I could. But I didn't want to be that guy. But definitely, I was asked not to score."
Jennings said his orders came in the huddle from quarterback Eli Manning, who spoke with him after the game and took responsibility for the way things turned out -- a 27-26 loss. Jennings said he was under the impression that Manning was relaying orders he got from the sideline.
Offensive coordinator Ben McAdoo is the Giants' offensive playcaller, but coach Tom Coughlin has the power to overrule him. Coughlin took responsibility for the late-game play calling Sunday night. McAdoo is permitted to speak to the media only once a week, and not after games.
After the game, Jennings told ESPN, "As a running back, it's really tough when they tell you not to score," but didn't elaborate.
Jennings said this was the first time he has been given such an order since he was in college, and back then the reason was that his team had a lead and a chance to run out the clock with the ball still in its hands. That wasn't the case Sunday, but it still was odd to ask Jennings not to score.
Had he scored a touchdown on first down and Josh Brown hit the 33-yard extra point, the Giants would have led by 10 with 1:50 left. Had he scored on second down, there would have been 1:43 left.
Part of the problem was that the Giants were confused about the timeout situation. Jennings said Monday that he and the rest of the team believed the Cowboys had called their final timeout after the first-down play. That was based on the belief that the Cowboys had called their second timeout after Odell Beckham Jr.'s third-down catch the play before.
But Dallas had not called a timeout there. The clock had stopped because the Cowboys were called for an offside penalty on Beckham's catch. Even though the Giants declined the penalty, the rules say the clock stops after such a penalty in the final five minutes of the fourth quarter.
When Jennings was told not to score on second down, the Giants believed they would be able to churn 40 seconds off the clock and run their third-down play with a little more than a minute to go. When the Cowboys stopped the clock with 1:43 to go after the second-down run, the Giants were surprised.
As for the runs themselves, Jennings insists he could have scored on either one.
"On one of them it would've been a grind," Jennings said. "But on the other, I cut the wrong way [on purpose] and found somewhere soft to fall."
Jennings and the Giants were obviously disappointed to lose a game they led by three with the ball on the opponent's 1-yard line and less than two minutes to go. Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo went down the field "like a knife through butter," in the words of Coughlin, for the game-winning score after Manning threw an incomplete pass on third down and the Giants settled for a field goal.
But while the instructions surprised him, Jennings wanted to make it clear that he wasn't second-guessing whoever told him not to score.
"I'm not mad," he said. "We're doing this as a team, and we thought it was best for us not to score at that point. Of course I wanted to, but that's just the football player in you."
The night didn't get a lot better for the Giants, whose departure from Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport was held up until 4 a.m. CT, delaying their arrival in Newark, New Jersey, to 9 a.m. ET.
So strange.
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this dude keep talking.. he must not know how couglin rolls.. plus how replaceable that position is on the whole
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Bye Jennings.
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Maybe Jennings is saying this on purpose so he could get traded
For sure the Giants aren't going to be in the playoffs with that swiss cheese defense
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I'm still confused how Coughlin and Eli didn't know Dallas had timeouts still? The refs announced it multiple times. Terrible, terrible, terrible. Jennings should have just scored. Why not run it in on third. If he didn't get in, which he would have. You run it on 4th. Go up 10 with 50 seconds left or you stay at a three point lead with 30-40 seconds and Dallas forced to work from their own one with zero TOs.
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Simple, Coughlin is getting senile
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No excuse to not know. That's all I kept thinking while reading that. Also don't think Jennings should receive any penalty for talking about the play call. If you're going to tell him to do it stand by it. Getting pissy and embarrassed because it didn't work out would looks worse to me
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Listening to Eli now. He said he told Jennings not to score on first and second, get as close as you can. Said after first down, he thought they were out of TOs because of the flags. Plan was basically to run out the clock and thought they would go for it on 4th. Terrible communication between Eli and the coaching staff. Just an enormous brain fart. Inexcusable ********. Eli, Tom and Mac all get blame. Should have known there were TOs left and should have ran it on third and again on fourth. ******* **** ************ *****
Usually we **** the bed with an unlucky INT, tip ball, drop, fumble but this is mostly on the coaching staff. Un ******* real.
Usually we **** the bed with an unlucky INT, tip ball, drop, fumble but this is mostly on the coaching staff. Un ******* real.
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Now it's "Nobody said he's great"
All I know is when I said he's average, reached his potential and not going to be a great NFL quarterback...It was you don't watch ****, he out dueled whoever( which was a lie) his defense sucks, his coaching sucks or whatever.
Later this season when he throws for 350 and a few TDs, it going back to hyping Tannehill again with random photos of him and word franchise being used again.
Exactly, you only grasp great, or average and reached peak. That's what your brain can handle.
Like it has been said, multiple times, he hasn't reached his peak, but he's not "Great" either. But he clearly has a chance, the possibility, to move into that 10-12 range of QB's IF he continues to elevate his play, as he has done 3 years straight.
See how that works? Needle doesn't have to be on Great, nor on reached his peak. It's quite possible to be 27, and still improving. You understand that?
The dude is in his 4th year in the NFL we need more than vague answers.
If he continues to mprove doesn't cut it.
Where does Tannehill exactly rank now ? Is he a franchise quarterback? Is he average, good, great?
Is he more than a game manager?
[COLOR=#red]The answer is No.[/COLOR]
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Raiders have two injured safeties. The healthy safety that showed promise in the preseason was cut for maturity issues in the preseason.
He is now with the Dolphins practice squad.
And Ray Ray Armstrong is supposed to be better than Sio Moore on the run?
Well done Jack. Well done.
He is now with the Dolphins practice squad.
And Ray Ray Armstrong is supposed to be better than Sio Moore on the run?
Well done Jack. Well done.
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Keep stuff bout the raiders in there own thread
We don't care about irrelevant *** teams
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This is the NFL Thread where entertainment thrives. Someone queue up Tampa Bay highlights.
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I really need the Falcons to give me some hope for the season tonight
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