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Your talking percentages. I'm talking strait up turnovers. 57 is more then 54.
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Your talking percentages. I'm talking strait up turnovers. 57 is more then 54.
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Your talking percentages. I'm talking strait up turnovers. 57 is more then 54.
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Your changing the discussion. Your stats don't change my statement of FACT. 57 is more then 54.
Over the last 4 years Luck has more turnovers then Cutler. My statement went no deeper then that. Your wasting your time unless there's a 3rd turnover category beside INT and fumbles I missed.
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only eye test i give Cutlets over Luck is the wifey
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Andrew Luck is a turnover machine but I believe Cutler turns it over slightly more.
Might have to fact check it later.
Might have to fact check it later.
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Son... Cutler has 44 games played over the span you're talking about and Luck has 51....
Your argument is non existent.
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Matt Hasselbeck only has 6 INT's since Luck came into the league.
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Colts have allowed an average of a buck twenty on the ground over the last 4 weeks. He could be in for a big game.
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So players can't be compared unless they play the exact same amount of games? Once again another discussion where "how many games" is now the main determining factor. You guys change your measuring stick only to bolster your arguments where you see fit. It's funny really.
I bring up Barry and he's all time great with no winning achievements, Bradshaw has the achievements but it doesn't matter as much in his case and now games played is the standard. What is this formula you all are using? It changes by the topic.
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We use logic and real statistics.
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Cutler to Irvin vs. Luck to Rice
someone get that Rocky Balboa simulator out
someone get that Rocky Balboa simulator out
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My point exactly. You can't put into words what your criteria is because you don't have one. It's all random, basically whatever formula that makes you right.
I'd really like you to explain to me since your the most vocal how you personally go about the process. How much weight do titles and stats hold for you? Please I'm curious to know.
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Some dudes just wanna argue.
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I miss the RW vs Luck and Peyton vs Tom debates
I actually miss those days
I actually miss those days
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Aye y'all pray for my quarterback b. Colts about to own the Texans tonight like always though
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Dudes really talking about Cutler 
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Leave Cutlets alone!
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Yo what is going on this thread....
Btw Greg Cossell is a complete idiot who's hurt his predictions of Russell Wilson being a bust and Zach Mettenberger being a star haven't come true. He's tried every excuse in the book already.
He's like Arizona-era Ken whizenhunt in his obsession with huge, big-armed statuesque quarterbacks. If you aren't that it must be a fluke.
Btw Greg Cossell is a complete idiot who's hurt his predictions of Russell Wilson being a bust and Zach Mettenberger being a star haven't come true. He's tried every excuse in the book already.
He's like Arizona-era Ken whizenhunt in his obsession with huge, big-armed statuesque quarterbacks. If you aren't that it must be a fluke.
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In defense of Cutler since old boy wants to compare his first 4 years to luck. Rules changes took effect in 2010. Cutler came into the league in 06. You can't completely ignore those changes. It's universally know passing now is easier then before.
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Jay Cutler's ciggy game > *
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No but if you're going to take a TOTAL number like 51 Turnovers vs 54 over a 4 year span then both need to have had played the same amount of games.
If half a damn season is missing from one of them then you can't use that to say the other turns the ball over more. It's nonsensical.
I'm sure a lot of RB's have more rushing yards than AP since 2013 too....
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It's not "random or whatever formula." It's not criteria. It's called LOGIC. Why would anyone compare years 6-10 of a QBs career to a QB that's only been in the league for four years? Why would you compare someone who has played 44 games to someone who played 51? You're telling me the guy that played 7 more games had more turnovers?! Well no **** Sherlock.
Jay Cutler's INT% is 3.4. Andrew Luck's INT% is 2.6. Percentage of times intercepted when attempting to pass. Jay Cutler gets intercepted more than Andrew Luck.
Once again, logic.
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