OFFICIAL NFL Discussion Thread: 2015-16 Season - Congrats to the Denver Broncos and their fans! SB 5

[dontbelikethat]

 
I'm sorry but if you don't have a viable QB then your team is going to be trash regardless of whether or not you have Watt or not. 

No QB, no party. 

If you wanna have a really awesome guy on Defense to get fans excited about a .500 team, that's fine I guess...

No one is saying the QB is not the most important position, how you goona get a QB though with or without Watt? No one is about to trade their "elite" franchise QB even for Watt.

 

[iDon’tRead]

But I thought defense wins championships .. didn't a cb get the game winning int recently

 

[kingkoopa]

 
excuse me, you're right. He said watt is replaceable. If watt left the texans and picked up one of those players he listed they wouldn't have the same impact as watt. So technically he's not really replaceable. Good thing the texans realize it too lol.

LOL

What impact has JJ made.

You'll be 7-9 instead of 8-8?

So the comparing how much they get paid to what Watt makes is a moot point.
 

No, that is my point 

Why pay a player that amount of money when it doesn't equate to wins?

 
No one is going to be JJ Watt... Hes incredible.  IMO though hes not worth tying up QB money into because he doesn't necessarily translate to wins.

BOOM

 
To be fair there are always a finite number of even decent QB's. Even if they had money who are they going to get

Again, that's why I said I see why they are paying him.

It's more of a knock on the team then it is Watt.

It's a reason why high priced free agent defensive players go tp ****** teams 90% of the time.

 

[IATT]

Where is the love for fletcher cox, he's still on his rookie deal

 

[S4L]

If we have a NFL redraft. The lowest watt goes is 3rd or 4th behind Luck and Rodgers.

LOL.

 

[jpzx]

Steve Reed @SteveReedAP now
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Cam Newton hasn't been wearing flak jacket but will Friday, per Rivera.

Adam Teicher @adamteicher 1m
Andy Reid said the plan is to play Eric Berry Saturday night against Cardinals

Chris Tomasson @christomasson 1m
Adrian Peterson at walkthrough was reported yesterday he is fine with minor thigh bruise

Steve Reed @SteveReedAP 1m
Ron Rivera says he expects to keep Joe Webb on the 53-man roster. Says he is valuable on special teams.

Steve Reed @SteveReedAP 1m
Ron Rivera said today he thinks Luke Kuechly is the best linebacker in the NFL.

 

[kingkoopa]

so they should have just let him walk after his rookie deal and find the next JJ Watt in the draft?

Texans were 9-7 not 6-10

How much worse off would they have been with out him?

 
No one is about to trade their "elite" franchise QB even for Watt.

I wouldn't trade you Teddy for Watt and he's not elite.

There are plenty of non elite Qb's who aren't getting traded for a 100M DE

 

[dmxfury]

Texans fans, how many wins do you get last year if Watt isn't there? I don't watch enough to make a proper assessment

 

[rolaholic]

The federal judge is grilling Wells and NFL lawyers right now on the "independence" of his investigation and pressing them for hard evidence. This guy's live tweeting the proceedings https://twitter.com/PPVSRB

 

[IATT]

 

 
He didn't say they were...

excuse me, you're right. He said watt is replaceable. If watt left the texans and picked up one of those players he listed they wouldn't have the same impact as watt. So technically he's not really replaceable. Good thing the texans realize it too lol.

No one is going to be JJ Watt... Hes incredible.  IMO though hes not worth tying up QB money into because he doesn't necessarily translate to wins.

You gotta play the hand that your dealt.. I'm sure the Texans wish they had a QB to pay QB money to, but those guys get paid QB money because teams are extremely aware of how valuable it is to have that spot secured

I'm 96% sure the Texans wish a top flight QB was available when they got clowney.. Bortles was the 1st QB taken that year with manziel behind him (granted they screwed up not moving up to get bridgewater or taking Carr.. Given their need at that spot)

 

[dmxfury]

There isn't hard evidence. Just take the one game Tom. TAKE THE ONE GAME

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

 
I'm sorry but if you don't have a viable QB then your team is going to be trash regardless of whether or not you have Watt or not. 

No QB, no party. 

If you wanna have a really awesome guy on Defense to get fans excited about a .500 team, that's fine I guess...

That wasn't even the argument though. Which QB is out there for them to sign?
 

Nobody is debating the value of a QB

 

[kingkoopa]

There isn't hard evidence. Just take the one game Tom. TAKE THE ONE GAME

 it just hit me!

 

[fraij da 5 11]

 

 

 

 
He didn't say they were...

excuse me, you're right. He said watt is replaceable. If watt left the texans and picked up one of those players he listed they wouldn't have the same impact as watt. So technically he's not really replaceable. Good thing the texans realize it too lol.

No one is going to be JJ Watt... Hes incredible.  IMO though hes not worth tying up QB money into because he doesn't necessarily translate to wins.

You gotta play the hand that your dealt.. I'm sure the Texans wish they had a QB to pay QB money to, but those guys get paid QB money because teams are extremely aware of how valuable have that spot secured is

I'm 96% sure the Texans wish a top flight QB was available when they got clowney.. Bortles was the 1st QB taken that year with manziel behind him (granted they screwed up not moving up to get bridgewater or taking Carr.. Given their need at that spot)

I get all that... So like I said, if you've got a bum QB but you can pay JJ Watt 52M guaranteed, knock yourself out.  

I just don't see 1 player truly being worth huge money like that other than a QB that can win you games.

JJ's the best DL in 15 years, but HOU hasn't won games since Schaub was throwing for 4000+ yards in 2012 and looked like a real life QB.

 

[jpzx]

Ex-NFL Bryant McKinnie’s Florida Condo Being Foreclosed On

by Robert Littal | Posted on Wednesday, August 12th, 2015

Ex-NFL OL Bryant McKinnie is use to court proceedings. He has been sued by strip clubs, had run ins with the law and some issues with women throughout the years.

He is a free agent after playing with the Dolphins last year and that is where this latest story comes from via the Jasmine Brand.

Ex-NFL star Bryant McKinnie is accused of defaulting on the mortgage for his Florida condo and not paying a dime since 2013. The 35-year-old has now been slapped with a lawsuit demanding he be kicked out of the home and it be sold off at foreclosure.

The company Ocwen Loan Servicing filed a foreclosure lawsuit against McKinnie and his mother Michele Green in Florida Court on July 27th.

McKinnie owes $216k and the company wants him immediately kicked out.

Link

 

[Peep Game]

Texans fans, how many wins do you get last year if Watt isn't there? I don't watch enough to make a proper assessment

I'll be generous and say 5. Watt basically did everything other than play QB. His play makes guys like Jared Crick and Whitney Mercilius (who are good players in their own right) play above what they probably would without him on the field.

Koopa's posts have been a mess like Geno's jaw btw

 

[7th Chamber]

The federal judge is grilling Wells and NFL lawyers right now on the "independence" of his investigation and pressing them for hard evidence. This guy's live tweeting the proceedings https://twitter.com/PPVSRB

Judge Berman asks same question that has confounded all of us for months: What the heck does "generally aware" mean? https://t.co/yOgy5Q5tD6
— Michael McCann (@McCannSportsLaw) August 12, 2015

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

 
I get all that... So like I said, if you've got a bum QB but you can pay JJ Watt 52M guaranteed, knock yourself out.  

I just don't see 1 player truly being worth huge money like that other than a QB that can win you games.

JJ's the best DL in 15 years, but HOU hasn't won games since Schaub was throwing for 4000+ yards in 2012 and looked like a real life QB.

I mean, they went 9-7 last year and they play in the same division as the Jags and Titans. They're not that bad off as it is

 

[jpzx]

Captain Munnerlyn may be cut.... we'll see...

 

[DeadsetAce]

Judge Berman is TEEING OFF on the NFL and Goodell right now

 

[7th Chamber]

Berman: "What is the evidence of a scheme or conspiracy that covers the Jan. 15 game? I’m having trouble finding it."
— Stephen Brown (@PPVSRB) August 12, 2015

 

[fraij da 5 11]

Judge Berman is TEEING OFF on the NFL and Goodell right now

How are you keeping track?

 

[rolaholic]

Berman

 

[7th Chamber]

How are you keeping track?

On Twitter, follow this guy @PPVSRB

 

[DeadsetAce]

Judge Berman is TEEING OFF on the NFL and Goodell right now

How are you keeping track?

Marc Bertrand ‏@Marc_Bertrand 4m4 minutes ago
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