OFFICIAL NFL Discussion Thread: 2015-16 Season - Congrats to the Denver Broncos and their fans! SB 5

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[COLOR=#red]I recall Steve Young doing it.. think he almost scored a touchdown too.


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prolific passing :pimp:
 
doesn't Stafford have like the most 4th quarter comebacks or something like that the past few years

Pretty sure Romo has the most 4th quarter comebacks/ game winning drives since 2011 and also since 2006 with 28.
 
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Please post the league passing numbers so we can adjust Dan's stats for inflation


1. Dan Marino*+ · MIA 5084
2. Neil Lomax* · STL 4614
3. Phil Simms · NYG 4044
4. Dan Fouts · SDG 3740
5. Dave Krieg* · SEA 3671
6. Joe Montana* · SFO 3630
7. Steve DeBerg · TAM 3554
8. Paul McDonald · CLE 3472
9. Joe Theismann · WAS 3391
10. Warren Moon · HOU 3338


1. Drew Brees* · NOR 5476
2. Tom Brady* · NWE 5235
3. Matthew Stafford · DET 5038
4. Eli Manning* · NYG 4933
5. Aaron Rodgers*+ · GNB 4643
6. Philip Rivers* · SDG 4624
7. Tony Romo · DAL 4184
8. Matt Ryan · ATL 4177
9. Ben Roethlisberger* · PIT 4077
10. Cam Newton* · CAR 4051
 
Stafford at 23

5038 yds 41 tdps 16 ints

Marino at 23

5084 yds 48 tdps 17 ints

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Please post the league passing numbers so we can adjust Dan's stats for inflation

Never said Stafford was in Marinos class

The league numbers can be taken 2 ways

You could say Marino feasted because Shula was innovative enough to open up his offense to accommodate Marino's talents when other quarterbacks were stuck in run first offenses

Also the coverages were less complex in 1984..No exotic blitzes or combo coverages. Just man or zone..no pre snap adjustments.

The NFL eventually caught up and Marino never had a season where he was close to being that efficient again

The rules make it somewhat easier to pass for more yards now but the defenses are exponentially more complex than they were in the 1980s

Every era in the NFL has its pros and cons
 
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1. Peyton Manning (38) 41 1998-2014 2TM View Comebacks
2. Tom Brady (37) 35 2000-2014 nwe View Comebacks
3. Eli Manning (34) 26 2004-2014 View Comebacks
4. Ben Roethlisberger (33) 25 2004-2014 pit View Comebacks
Drew Brees (36) 25 2001-2014 2TM View Comebacks
6. Tony Romo (34) 24 2004-2014 dal View Comebacks
7. Philip Rivers (33) 20 2004-2014 sdg View Comebacks
Matt Ryan (29) 20 2008-2014 atl View Comebacks
9. Carson Palmer (35) 18 2004-2014 3TM View Comebacks
10. Jay Cutler (31) 17 2006-2014 2TM View Comebacks
11. Matt Hasselbeck (39) 16 1999-2014 4TM View Comebacks
12. Matthew Stafford (27) 15 2009-2014 det View Comebacks
13. Alex Smith (30) 14 2005-2014 2TM View Comebacks
Joe Flacco (30) 14 2008-2014 rav View Comebacks
15. Michael Vick (34) 13 2001-2014 3TM View Comebacks
16. Matt Schaub (33) 11 2004-2014 3TM View Comebacks
17. Russell Wilson (26) 10 2012-2014 sea View Comebacks
Mark Sanchez (28) 10 2009-2014 2TM View Comebacks
19. Cam Newton (25) 9 2011-2014 car View Comebacks
Andrew Luck (25) 9 2012-2014 clt View Comebacks
Andy Dalton (27) 9 2011-2014 cin View Comebacks


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Every time I see us giving QB's in the past the benefit of the doubt due to it being a different league, not saying it isn't warranted, but I always think about what Seattle's defense is doing. We should give them the benefit of the doubt then.

Are they solidified as the greatest defense of all time?
 
Seattle's secondary might be the best I've ever seen. They also have a great coaching staff, Pete has done very well. Not sure if overall their defense is one of the best or if the secondary is just that good.
 
Every time I see us giving QB's in the past the benefit of the doubt due to it being a different league, not saying it isn't warranted, but I always think about what Seattle's defense is doing. We should give them the benefit of the doubt then.

Are they solidified as the greatest defense of all time?

76 Pitt (IMO) ut they are a top ten all time already and can climb

Hard thing with defense is some take 1 year, some take multiples with the same unit. Offense is almost always viewed as just one year
 
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Stafford at 23

5038 yds 41 tdps 16 ints

Marino at 23

5084 yds 48 tdps 17 ints

:lol:


Please post the league passing numbers so we can adjust Dan's stats for inflation

Never said Stafford was in Marinos class

The league numbers can be taken 2 ways

You could say Marino feasted because Shula was innovative enough to open up his offense to accommodate Marino's talents when other quarterbacks were stuck in run first offenses

Also the coverages were less complex in 1984..No exotic blitzes or combo coverages. Just man or zone..no pre snap adjustments.

The NFL eventually caught up and Marino never had a season where he was close to being that efficient again

The rules make it somewhat easier to pass for more yards now but the defenses are exponentially more complex than they were in the 1980s

Every era in the NFL has its pros and cons

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guess the bears, steelers and dolphins top defenses before this decade were inferior as well.
that Giants defense that won two super bowls was super complex too right? too difficult for Chuck Noll's small brain to understand.
The Seahawks are once in a lifetime defense right now... you cannot compare them and their coaching staff to Anyone, Ever. You can however compare say... almost everyone else.
there is way too much to dissect in your post dude... you just are the worst poster in here, I'm 99% certain you do it on purpose. is what it is.
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"The game is so much more complex now," Kurt Warner said. "The complexity of the schemes and the zone coverage makes it tougher. And then you have adjustments in coverage (pre-snap). Not to take away from what Dan did -- everyone knows he was a great player -- but he got a lot more man coverage, 'My guy is better than your guy' big plays."

Defenses started to adjust to Shula’s offense. They learned from the 49ers’ championship strategy and dropped more and more defensive backs into coverage to prevent the deeper routes
 
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