OFFICIAL NFL Discussion Thread: 2015-16 Season - Congrats to the Denver Broncos and their fans! SB 5

[captainsneakerhead23]

I respect that.

And by me respecting your views, I'm not going to try and beat you down with mine.

All I will say is I've seen it 1st hand, live in person, and that same person had the chance to take a large sum of money to make it go away but didn't. Now she's the head of multiple DV victim organizations across the country, empowering many women to take the same path, which is why I'm a firm believer in standing your ground for what you believe is right no matter how damaging it may be.

That's awesome, truly is, but that's such a rarity and the exception. But good for that person to be big and brave enough to do it. As a firm do you look at your clients as 'soft minded' when they want to settle and advise otherwise or is it just your personal position?

Personal position based on what I've seen and been through which is why I've been consistently saying "I'm a firm believer" meaning these are my beliefs. I'm not trying to get anyone on board with my beliefs, I'm just shedding light on some different viewpoints than the majority. I also said "this goes for men and women" to let it be known that my beliefs aren't just about her.

I also never said Greg was fully innocent in regards to what happened that night between the two.

As far as clients go, when you have a legit case that can make a real impact in this country and decide to settle for the money instead, yes I consider you "soft minded" ... If it makes sense to settle, lets say you had a slip and fall accident at work because the janitor didn't put the caution while wet signs, then I have no problem with that at all. My issues are with bigger things like DV, rape, police brutality, racial profiling, etc.

 

[Mr.Guy]

I hate to say it but those bruises look minimal especially considering the fact that Hardy is A huge dude. If hardy really whooped her *** the bruises would have been way worse just saying. Not to condone what happened but the bruises don't prove **** to me. White women bruise easy as hell. Ol girl could have gotten drunk and fallen down and bruised.

 

[Trey Bantz]

I hate to say it but those bruises look minimal especially considering the fact that Hardy is A huge dude. If hardy really whooped her *** the bruises would have been way worse just saying. Not to condone what happened but the bruises don't prove **** to me. White women bruise easy as hell. Ol girl could have gotten drunk and fell down and bruised.

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[shatterkneesinc]

Cut that crap.
Fresh bruises don't look that bad but the next day you will be black and blue all over.
Given that those were fresh bruises, she got beat pretty bad.

 

[nick.]

the fact that she even has bruises is the problem

 

[Mr.Guy]

Cut that crap.
Fresh bruises don't look that bad but the next day you will be black and blue all over.
Given that those were fresh bruises, she got beat pretty bad.

I need to see said black and blue pictures. One of My best friends is white and her friend slapped her butt in a playful manner and she had multiple bruises as a result. I'm not sure why but a lot of my white friends bruise up easy as hell.

 

[NickFolarin]

I hate to say it but those bruises look minimal especially considering the fact that Hardy is A huge dude. If hardy really whooped her *** the bruises would have been way worse just saying. Not to condone what happened but the bruises don't prove **** to me. White women bruise easy as hell. Ol girl could have gotten drunk and fell down and bruised.

 

[stillin729]

Personal position based on what I've seen and been through which is why I've been consistently saying "I'm a firm believer" meaning these are my beliefs. I'm not trying to get anyone on board with my beliefs, I'm just shedding light on some different viewpoints than the majority. I also said "this goes for men and women" to let it be known that my beliefs aren't just about her.

I also never said Greg was fully innocent in regards to what happened that night between the two.

As far as clients go, when you have a legit case that can make a real impact in this country and decide to settle for the money instead, yes I consider you "soft minded" ... If it makes sense to settle, lets say you had a slip and fall accident at work because the janitor didn't put the caution while wet signs, then I have no problem with that at all. My issues are with bigger things like DV, rape, police brutality, racial profiling, etc.

are you a lawyer or you work for a law firm in another capacity?

I wouldn't take a case of someone I thought was soft minded, you know a person's intentions early on the majority of times. If you take a case just to get paid then that is pretty hypocritical coming from your stance of people being in these positions being soft minded.

 

[jjs07]

Not to be that guy but how do those photos definitely prove Hardy did it?

Because they really don't.

All they show is a struggle which we already know there was. It could be him coming to her or it could be her coming to him.

The real narrative is probably somewhere in the middle.

I don't think those photos fit the Greg Hardy the heinous woman beater narrative.

Man, what?

 

[NickFolarin]

Here we are hours later....

Comparing DV marks to being slapped on the butt

SMH!!

 

[the collector]

This notion that taking a settlement is weak or the less respectable thing to do is absolutely ridiculous. If you have suffered you deserve some form of restitution. Most people want this restitution without the time, money, and uncertainty that goes with fighting in court so they settle and take a lump sum. The fact that someone who works at a law firm doesn't understand this is beyond my understanding.

If payment was acceptable to her as punishment enough for him then he's paid his debt. Why the hell are people still on his case about it then?

He's no different then Mike Vike in the sense his debt has been paid. Leave him alone.

 

[Mr.Guy]

are you a lawyer or you work for a law firm in another capacity?

I wouldn't take a case of someone I thought was soft minded, you know a person's intentions early on the majority of times. If you take a case just to get paid then that is pretty hypocritical coming from your stance of people being in these positions being soft minded.

Ol girl is a ratchet gold digger who sleeps with celebs and is ok with allegedly getting her *** beat and settling for money. It is what it is. Some people will sell their souls for $$$$.

 

[Mr.Guy]

If payment was acceptable to her as punishment enough for him then he's paid his debt. Why the hell are people still on his case about it then?

He's no different then Mike Vike in the sense his debt has been paid. Leave him alone.

True the same thing most likely happened with the NHL player who was accused of rape. The victim doesn't want to pursue the case anymore because she was most likely paid. If you have $$ in this country you can make your legal issues disappear for the mos. part.

 

[dragicon]

If payment was acceptable to her as punishment enough for him then he's paid his debt. Why the hell are people still on his case about it then?

He's no different then Mike Vike in the sense his debt has been paid. Leave him alone.

But people who aren't directly affected by the case are still upset with internet outrage!  

 

[mister friendly]

I feel what captainsneakerhead23 is saying.

I also kinda get what Mr.Guy is saying but it's hard to say it without sounding foolish.

 

[Mr.Guy]

I don't like the sexist tone to the domestic violence argument in this country. Women can abuse men too. We don't know if ol girl hit Greg. My parents always taught my sister and I to keep our hands to ourselves and if u hit someone expect to be hit back. If someone hits me I may hit them back.

 

[stillin729]

True the same thing most likely happened with the NHL player who was accused of rape. The victim doesn't want to pursue the case anymore because she was most likely paid. If you have $$ in this country you can make your legal issues disappear for the mos. part.

wrong, the girls lawyer quit because of all the inconsistencies in her story because her mom got caught in a hoax trying to accuse cops of mishandling DNA and she stopped cooperating with the case before it got bad for her

 

[Trey Bantz]

This notion that taking a settlement is weak or the less respectable thing to do is absolutely ridiculous. If you have suffered you deserve some form of restitution. Most people want this restitution without the time, money, and uncertainty that goes with fighting in court so they settle and take a lump sum. The fact that someone who works at a law firm doesn't understand this is beyond my understanding.

If payment was acceptable to her as punishment enough for him then he's paid his debt. Why the hell are people still on his case about it then?

He's no different then Mike Vike in the sense his debt has been paid. Leave him alone.

I agree. I am not here on a moral crusade against Greg Hardy. I am challenging the notion that she's somehow a weak-minded money grubbing ***** for taking the settlement, it's ridiculous.

 

[Mr.Guy]

wrong, the girls lawyer quit because of all the inconsistencies in her story because her mom got caught in a hoax trying to accuse cops of mishandling DNA and she stopped cooperating with the case before it got bad for her

A lot of rape victims have inconsistencies in their stories. Being raped is a traumatic experience. I heard about the mother but that's her mother not the rape victim.

 

[Mr.Guy]

My

 

[jjs07]

I hope this makes some of yall see right through the NFL's "no more" campaign. Greg Hardy is on a roster because he can still play at a high level. People running with the narrative that Ray Rice is blacklisted due to what happened to him and his fiancee in AC. Nah....Ray Rice isn't on a roster because he's washed. Nothing more nothing less. In the wake of these incidents, the NFL will do whatever damage control they can to help in the PR department. This is why you have guys like Cris Carter crying on screen advocating for DV victims. It's all a charade at the end of the day. DV is horrible. We all know this...however, winning (in the NFL/owners eyes) trumps EVERYTHING. This is exactly why the Cowboys and JJ can look at those photos and still sign Hardy to a deal...talk about extending him...consider him a LEADER It goes on and on.

Greg Hardy is a true piece of crap.

 

[a55a5in11]

This notion that taking a settlement is weak or the less respectable thing to do is absolutely ridiculous. If you have suffered you deserve some form of restitution. Most people want this restitution without the time, money, and uncertainty that goes with fighting in court so they settle and take a lump sum. The fact that someone who works at a law firm doesn't understand this is beyond my understanding.

If payment was acceptable to her as punishment enough for him then he's paid his debt. Why the hell are people still on his case about it then?

He's no different then Mike Vike in the sense his debt has been paid. Leave him alone.

I agree. I am not here on a moral crusade against Greg Hardy. I am challenging the notion that she's somehow a weak-minded money grubbing ***** for taking the settlement, it's ridiculous.

So you guys think it's OK to beat woman as long as she takes money?

 

[johnnyredstorm]

some of you guys are idiots

 

[Mr.Guy]

The ray Rice situation is wayyy worse than the Hard situation.

 

[dragicon]

So you guys think it's OK to beat woman as long as she takes money?

Did you even read those quotes that you quoted?  I ask because your question is completely unrelated to what you quoted.