OFFICIAL NFL Discussion Thread: 2015-16 Season - Congrats to the Denver Broncos and their fans! SB 5

[stillin729]

Ryan Fitzpatrick is playing Thursday then having thumb surgery after the game?

they really hate Geno

 

[Hahahaha]

His conviction was appealed and dismissed...so I don't think it's fair to say he's guilty.

People appeal their convictions and sometimes win.

All she has to do is show up and it's the same result. He was found guilty on EVERY charge. Not like one out of six. Every charge, he was done. So it's more than fair to say, he was guilty.

But she didn't show up though.

It's like it's more important to some of y'all than it was to her.

I have NO problem at all with her accepting a six or seven figure payday. Most of us would. But you keep acting like he is innocent or most likely innocent.

 

His conviction was appealed and dismissed...so I don't think it's fair to say he's guilty.


People appeal their convictions and sometimes win.

All she has to do is show up and it's the same result. He was found guilty on EVERY charge. Not like one out of six. Every charge, he was done. So it's more than fair to say, he was guilty.

to be fair to her, we have no clue what her emotional state was in all of this.. a lot of rape victims either don't report what happened to them or don't follow through with everything because of the physiological trauma that has happened to them.. they just want it all to go away and forget anything ever happened

I obviously have no idea what the victims mental state is and was in this whole thing.. but for her maybe the ordeal of going through a trial again was too much and she saw the settlement as an easy way to get the whole thing over with

there are also other possibilities, obviously

I'm one of the few that actually look at the female in these situations and I have no problem at all giving them blame as well. I don't believe they're innocent. Like I said, Ray's girl was drunk, found out about someone he was messing with and put hands on him. I wouldn't be surprised if Greg's girl was drunk, high or hit him. He didn't need to go to the lengths that he did.

 

[rolaholic]

Hate all ya want but Dallas was definitely a SB contender in the NFC before the injuries.

I agree...defense be damned that offense would've been enough to win the division

 

[IATT]

 

[the collector]

Question for the thread. I see a lot of outrage over the celebrity football player. How many here check the sex offense registry regularly in their hometown? How many keep up with the DV crimes committed in there own areas and by whom? Who here volunteers their time to help victims of DV?

If you don't care enough to do these things in your own hometown then the outrage over the celebrity football player is laughable. That's what people mean when they say fake outrage. Everyone cares about the incident that involves the famous. Read articles, does minor research on the parties involved, and spends day's condemning the guilty. Yet can't tell you if a sex offender lives next door or not although the information exists.

It's funny and sad at the same time.

 

[Trey Bantz]

Take Dallas's roster and dress them in, I don't know, St. Louis Rams uniforms and you guys would be calling them SB contenders. You just refuse to believe it because it's the Dallas Cowboys.

 

[captainsneakerhead23]

. I wouldn't be surprised if Greg's girl was drunk, high or hit him. He didn't need to go to the lengths that he did.

It already states, in the documents you supposedly read, that she was snorting coke and drinking. Stop nitpicking for comparison purposes. All u had to do was say both females involved in their situations were under the influence if you wanted to use that as one of your points.





Funny how you're back on the Eagle bandwagon when you were ready to commit suicide after Week 2. "Tank for Goff"

 

[Trey Bantz]

Question for the thread. I see a lot of outrage over the celebrity football player. How many here check the sex offense registry regularly in their hometown? How many keep up with the DV crimes committed in there own areas and by whom? Who here volunteers their time to help victims of DV?

If you don't care enough to do these things in your own hometown then the outrage over the celebrity football player is laughable. That's what people mean when they say fake outrage. Everyone cares about the incident that involves the famous. Read articles, does minor research on the parties involved, and spends day's condemning the guilty. Yet can't tell you if a sex offender lives next door or not although the information exists.

It's funny and sad at the same time.

You're just deflecting the argument. None of what you're saying excuses Greg Hardy's actions. Nice try though, you put in a good effort.

 

[stillin729]

Question for the thread. I see a lot of outrage over the celebrity football player. How many here check the sex offense registry regularly in their hometown? How many keep up with the DV crimes committed in there own areas and by whom? Who here volunteers their time to help victims of DV?

If you don't care enough to do these things in your own hometown then the outrage over the celebrity football player is laughable. That's what people mean when they say fake outrage. Everyone cares about the incident that involves the famous. Read articles, does minor research on the parties involved, and spends day's condemning the guilty. Yet can't tell you if a sex offender lives next door or not although the information exists.

It's funny and sad at the same time.

yeah none of this

 

[dmxfury]

OL not important now?

Compared to QB? No it isn't

Maybe 15 years ago


And Pitt is beat up there as well

Were you in anyway apprehensive about Ben Roethlusberger playing for the Steelers?

I mean it was 2 alleged rape cases..There's probably a little smoke to that fire.

Probably, dude was a creepster at Miami as well. From a professional standpoint, I would have been fine if he was shipped off, but when he wasn't I was fine with him playing for Pitt from a football stand point. Don't like it, but if he is allowed to play he might as well be effective for the team I like. Personally you won't see me him defend him and dude was definitely a piece of trash, especially back then. Only positive is GA incident scared him and he finally grew the F up and stopped getting into those situations. Same feelings with Greg, I don't think you've seen me say he shouldn't be in the league, my disdain is a personal variety l. Roger tried to go tough on him but the NFLPA got it reduced

 

[air spider 777]

Question for the thread. I see a lot of outrage over the celebrity football player. How many here check the sex offense registry regularly in their hometown? How many keep up with the DV crimes committed in there own areas and by whom? Who here volunteers their time to help victims of DV?

If you don't care enough to do these things in your own hometown then the outrage over the celebrity football player is laughable. That's what people mean when they say fake outrage. Everyone cares about the incident that involves the famous. Read articles, does minor research on the parties involved, and spends day's condemning the guilty. Yet can't tell you if a sex offender lives next door or not although the information exists.

It's funny and sad at the same time.

Yea there are some with fake outrage but I believe most of us are truly disgusted on how Hardy and these others act and what gets me at least is that they get away with it for the most part. Let me do what Hardy did to my lady and my *** is going to jail.

To me these guys shouldn't have the privilege to play in the NFL after something like that but if they can play at an elite level, they will be back on a team within no time. So if you want to put down someone for fake outrage, how about voicing your opinion to the NFL Owners. They do all this image repair with DV charities and causes yet they let these animals, because that's what they are back into their league because of the dollar.

If it was up to me Hardy and AP would not be playing. How dare you beat a woman and child like that?

 

[IATT]

Take Dallas's roster and dress them in, I don't know, St. Louis Rams uniforms and you guys would be calling them SB contenders. You just refuse to believe it because it's the Dallas Cowboys.

orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr we remember:

 

[captainsneakerhead23]

Question for the thread. I see a lot of outrage over the celebrity football player. How many here check the sex offense registry regularly in their hometown? How many keep up with the DV crimes committed in there own areas and by whom? Who here volunteers their time to help victims of DV?

If you don't care enough to do these things in your own hometown then the outrage over the celebrity football player is laughable. That's what people mean when they say fake outrage. Everyone cares about the incident that involves the famous. Read articles, does minor research on the parties involved, and spends day's condemning the guilty. Yet can't tell you if a sex offender lives next door or not although the information exists.

It's funny and sad at the same time.

The funny part is, not too many people will be able to answer this. However, they will quickly accuse you of defending Greg when you're really asking legit questions

 

[the collector]

You're just deflecting the argument. None of what you're saying excuses Greg Hardy's actions. Nice try though, you put in a good effort.

I'm not deflecting anything. I stated where I stood on Hardy last week. I'm changing the narrative.

I see the Hardy outrage. What do you do in your own damn communities? Simple question. Your deflecting from what I said because I'd guess the answer isn't a damn thing. You don't care unless a celebrity is involved.

 

[mister friendly]

His conviction was appealed and dismissed...so I don't think it's fair to say he's guilty.

People appeal their convictions and sometimes win.

It's like it's more important to some of y'all than it was to her.

I have NO problem at all with her accepting a six or seven figure payday. Most of us would. But you keep acting like he is innocent or most likely innocent.

 
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I'm one of the few that actually look at the female in these situations and I have no problem at all giving them blame as well. I don't believe they're innocent.I wouldn't be surprised if Greg's girl was drunk, high or hit him. He didn't need to go to the lengths that he did.[/quote]








I think it's somewhere in the middle of both of their stories.

He had been drinking, she had been high on cocaine and been drinking.

 

[shatterkneesinc]

I love the guilt trip
Everyone who loves america should join the military
word to veterans day

 

[stillin729]

The funny part is, not too many people will be able to answer this. However, they will quickly accuse you of defending Greg when you're really asking legit questions

how is this legit?

you don't check the sex offense registry so it's fake outrage, you don't volunteer at women's shelters so you really don't care about DV

c'mon now, you called the girl soft last week

 

[IATT]

 

 

Funny how you're back on the Eagle bandwagon when you were ready to commit suicide after Week 2. "Tank for Goff"

lol.. has anything I said changed?

I still want goff.. hell this is what I posted in the draft thread couple hours ago:

in..




Hopefully Eagles end up with goff or lynch

 

[dmxfury]

I'm not deflecting anything. I stated where I stood on Hardy last week. I'm changing the narrative.

I see the Hardy outrage. What do you do in your own damn communities? Simple question. Your deflecting from what I said because I'd guess the answer isn't a damn thing. You don't care unless a celebrity is involved.

This is the case with nearly every issue. When it's mainstream or someone well known it gets far more attention. If I bring up the dude down the street nobody cares nor wants to discuss


And I did check the registry in my area.....so...?

 

[rolaholic]

I love the guilt trip
Everyone who loves america should join the military
word to veterans day

Yea I don't get some of this logic at all

 

[kingkoopa]

You guys think Derek Carr should be an MVP candidate this year?

he'll get votes

No he wont

Have you guys been watching?

He's a solid QB but nothing about his season says MVP

 

[stillin729]

No he wont

Have you guys been watching?

He's a solid QB but nothing about his season says MVP

I should have qualified that if they make the playoffs

he's completing 63% of his passes and 19/4 TD/INT ratio is impressive and will get him consideration if it continues

 

[jjs07]

Question for the thread. I see a lot of outrage over the celebrity football player. How many here check the sex offense registry regularly in their hometown? How many keep up with the DV crimes committed in there own areas and by whom? Who here volunteers their time to help victims of DV?

If you don't care enough to do these things in your own hometown then the outrage over the celebrity football player is laughable. That's what people mean when they say fake outrage. Everyone cares about the incident that involves the famous. Read articles, does minor research on the parties involved, and spends day's condemning the guilty. Yet can't tell you if a sex offender lives next door or not although the information exists.

It's funny and sad at the same time.

I'm not outraged at all. I just see the CLEAR hypocrisy the NFL has show regarding their "stance" on DV and who teams actually employ. As I said before, winning trumps EVERYTHING. If Hardy wasn't good at what he does on Sundays, he'd get the Ray Rice treatment.

Now, to your other questions, I check the sex offender registry. If you have a wife, gf, young kids, etc. you have to be on top of who is in/around your neighborhood that has that type of record. I'm sure most people do this.

*edit*

Let's also chill w/ the victim...again, VICTIM blaming. Yes, she took the money...but no one knows her reasoning for doing so.

 

[shatterkneesinc]

Jerry Jones and the league should not be off the hook

 

[stillin729]

Derek Carr is on pace for...

63.7% completion rate
4,188 yards
38 TDs
8 INTs

those are MVP worthy numbers