OFFICIAL NFL Discussion Thread: 2015-16 Season - Congrats to the Denver Broncos and their fans! SB 5

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RG3 is more the example in using. My issue is really with Luck.

Stable franchise, 4th season, 0 time missed, 0 injury history, runs the same system, was pro ready from day 1. Yet he's still a TO machine and it's all his team and GMs fault.

Now think about RG3s career in comparison to what I posted above. The fact Bob takes the heat he does is a joke.
 
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The Collector said:
RG3 is more the example in using. My issue is really with Luck.

Stable franchise, 4th season, 0 time missed, 0 injury history, runs the same system, was pro ready from day 1. Yet he's still a TO machine and it's all his teams and GMs fault.

Now think about RG3s career in comparison to what I posted above. The fact Bob takes the heat he does in comparison is a joke.
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His GM hasn't addressed the defense at all. Drafts a WR this year in the first round. O line is worse than Washington's. Colts are in the game the whole night, Gore messes up and strips himself.

Last year, Luck took his team to the AFCCG and Griffin took his team to the ER. Comparison is a joke, I agree.
 
Bret Favre had tons of turnovers as well. Some QBs can get away with it due to their style, play outside of the TOs, overall success and how the team is built.

Just how it is
 
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His GM hasn't addressed the defense at all. Drafts a WR this year in the first round. O line is worse than Washington's. Colts are in the game the whole night, Gore messes up and strips himself.

Last year, Luck took his team to the AFCCG and Griffin took his team to the ER. Comparison is a joke, I agree.
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Team success isn't a factor in this discussion. Rex took the Bears to the SB. So what. The Skins defense was good when? I could have sworn they were 3-6 the year RG carried them to the playoffs. Your comparing the players. I'm comparing the narrative. RG3 is the best example because they came in the same year.
 
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Ballerific703 said:
His GM hasn't addressed the defense at all. Drafts a WR this year in the first round. O line is worse than Washington's. Colts are in the game the whole night, Gore messes up and strips himself.

Last year, Luck took his team to the AFCCG and Griffin took his team to the ER. Comparison is a joke, I agree.
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Team success isn't a factor in this discussion. Rex took the Bears to the SB. So what. The Skins defense was good when? I could have sworn they were 3-6 the year RG carried them to the playoffs. Your comparing the players. I'm comparing the narrative. RG3 is the best example because they came in the same year.
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I see what you're getting at.

To make things simple for people to understand (as far as the narrative), I think the collector the collector is saying how Luck has been treated w/ kid gloves in comparison to RG3. OBVIOUSLY Luck is the superior talent, but the media-driven narrative surrounding the two players is uneven.

I mean, ****...just look at the reports coming out about RG3 and Cousins not being on speaking terms :lol: **** is insane. Homie is the 3rd string QB and he's STILL being talked about.
 
Exactly. Even bringing up how the Colts made the AFC Title game while also mentioning the teams issues is basically telling me Luck did it all by himself. No D, no line and still almost made the SB. If he's that great and can make it that far then starting 0-2 with TOs everywhere isn't acceptable.

When is it ever his fault?
 
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Chris Thompson/Jordan Reed are the last men standing :lol:

This is why the hire of Scot McCloughan was SO important. One guy that stood out to me was 6th round pick, Kyshoen Jarrett. He was out there making plays at both S and CB. Finding value late in the draft...but guys who can come in from day 1 and contribute.
 
Saw some tweets that Terrell Owens had his agent reach out to the Cowboys :wow:
 
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Luck his playing his hand INFINITELY better than RG is playing his.

Yes, off the field matters. Doesn't matter to YOU, and that's fine, but you're not talking about your portrayal; you're taking about media portrayal, which is people other than you.
 
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Saw some tweets that Terrell Owens had his agent reach out to the Cowboys :wow:
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At this point, I'll allow it :smokin


DarthSka said:
Luck his playing his hand INFINITELY better than RG is playing his.

Yes, off the field matters. Doesn't matter to YOU, and that's fine, but you're not talking about your portrayal; you're taking about media portrayal, which is people other than you.
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QFT.
 
DarthSka said:
Luck his playing his hand INFINITELY better than RG is playing his.

Yes, off the field matters. Doesn't matter to YOU, and that's fine, but you're not talking about your portrayal; you're taking about media portrayal, which is people other than you.
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A lot of QBs are bland off the field. They don't get the free pass Luck does. Even Payton in Indy caught more flack then Luck. I've never seen a QB absolved of blame the way he is. Usually a QB gets more praise/blame then everyone else. Luck only praise to this point.

He currently leads the league in TO. 6 to Sam Bradfords 5.

21 picks 7 fumbles since the start of last year. Leads the NFL.
 
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If the man's own coach says it's time to stop the excuses and turning the football over....

Andrew Luck isn't the first QB to have a ****** team and he won't be the last.
 
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