OFFICIAL NFL Discussion Thread: 2015-16 Season - Congrats to the Denver Broncos and their fans! SB 5

[dmxfury]

Right but he is able to make those changes because his body is able. Peyton knows he has to change his game some but can't. His body is breaking down and there isn't a darn thing he can do about it



My point was people will say 'see while both old Tom flourished and Peyton didn't.' The main reason Peyton didn't though is because his body has failed him. His mind is as sharp as ever but it doesn't matter. More a narrative on PM than TB

 

[jpzx]

On Manziel, read it if you get the chance:

People of privilege seem to be above the law when it comes to violence

BY SHAUN KING NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

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In America, we act like putting the word “domestic” before violence somehow softens the slug of a fist to a woman’s face. It doesn’t.

This strategy, though, of putting privileged adjectives before words that describe the horror faced by the victims of violence is common here. Domestic violence is just violence. Police brutality is just brutality. An officer involved shooting is just a shooting. The victims hurt, bleed and die—like everyone else.

When people of privilege use brute force to harm others, systems of power and privilege almost immediately kick in to protect them.

Few people are as privileged in America as Cleveland Browns quarterback Johnny Manziel.

Being a rich, white, famous, NFL quarterback puts a person in the upper echelon of American privilege. Traditional rules need not apply to Johnny Football. With his privilege, drug possession morphs into drug addiction and jail time turns into rehab. When images circulated of Johnny Football tightly rolling a dollar bill in a bathroom, which is regularly done to snort cocaine, his privilege made it out to be a joke.

This very privilege appears to have now saved Johnny from an arrest for domestic violence and driving under the influence.

Multiple people called 911 to report the car that Manziel was driving was swerving erratically and that he appeared to be violent with a female passenger. When they were pulled over by police, Colleen Crowley, visibly shaken and crying, repeatedly told authorities that Manziel “hurt” and “hit” her multiple times. In spite of clear marks on her body, and Manziel admitting that he had been drinking earlier in the day, police opted not to arrest him.

Come again? A man is so unsafe on the road that multiple people feel the need to call 911, he admits to drinking, and his passenger openly claims he was abusive, and he’s free to go?

Be honest with yourself: If we started to strip away the privilege from Manziel, would he have been let go and treated with kid gloves?

Would a black quarterback have been set free?

What about a black actor?

Or, what if a poor, Black, unemployed man had three people call the police on him and he admitted to drinking and had an emotional passenger claim he was abusive? Would that poor black man be free to go? You and I know the answer to that question.

Do police, who have a rate of domestic violence higher than any profession in the nation, even have the moral authority to lead on this issue?

Will Manziel be blacklisted from the NFL like Ray Rice or banned for the year like Greg Hardy?

I doubt it.

 

[rolaholic]

*popcorn ready*

You really do wonder how much differently JFF would've been treated had he come from a less fortunate background,dude's have been blackballed from the league for MUCH less...

 

[jjs07]

Wasn't his GF hammered?

 

[jpzx]

Wasn't his GF hammered?

So?

 

[jjs07]

Wasn't his GF hammered?

So?

Alcohol consumption could play a factor in what she was saying to the police. I know she had an abrasion on her wrist, but that could have been from Maziel trying to stop her from chucking his wallet out of the car.

She also acted belligerently toward officers and a Good Samaritan who wanted to help.

Police let the couple go, unable to determine the primary aggressor.

From CBS

So I'm not sure what the story is...hard to prove anything.

 

[Hahahaha]

*popcorn ready*

You really do wonder how much differently JFF would've been treated had he come from a less fortunate background,dude's have been blackballed from the league for MUCH less...

I said last year, he wouldn't even be in the league if he was black.

When I first heard he had an argument in the car with his girl, I knew it was more than that. Cops don't get called over a verbal argument in a car, that doesn't happen. This is all ******** and sickening.

 

[dmxfury]

Didn't hardy self impose his ban?

And Rice wasn't barely punished by the league at all with full video


JFF is a piece of work but in this case I just don't see his race being the reason he wasn't in bigger trouble

 

[Hank Scorpio]

Right but he is able to make those changes because his body is able. Peyton knows he has to change his game some but can't. His body is breaking down and there isn't a darn thing he can do about it



My point was people will say 'see while both old Tom flourished and Peyton didn't.' The main reason Peyton didn't though is because his body has failed him. His mind is as sharp as ever but it doesn't matter. More a narrative on PM than TB

I really appreciated watching both Tom Brady and Peyton Manning over the years, and I'd have to agree that there's nothing different Tom is doing which Peyton neglected to do. The bottom line is Tom's body has held up, while Peyton's hasn't. That's gotta be tough to swallow if you're Peyton Manning.

I know some of you guys have mentioned this already, but a lot of Peyton's difficulties executing plays would be alleviated if he just had a decent run game and line. Tommy has that luxury.

 

[Trey Bantz]

On Manziel, read it if you get the chance:

People of privilege seem to be above the law when it comes to violence

BY SHAUN KING NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

View media item 1756437

In America, we act like putting the word “domestic” before violence somehow softens the slug of a fist to a woman’s face. It doesn’t.

This strategy, though, of putting privileged adjectives before words that describe the horror faced by the victims of violence is common here. Domestic violence is just violence. Police brutality is just brutality. An officer involved shooting is just a shooting. The victims hurt, bleed and die—like everyone else.

When people of privilege use brute force to harm others, systems of power and privilege almost immediately kick in to protect them.

Few people are as privileged in America as Cleveland Browns quarterback Johnny Manziel.

Being a rich, white, famous, NFL quarterback puts a person in the upper echelon of American privilege. Traditional rules need not apply to Johnny Football. With his privilege, drug possession morphs into drug addiction and jail time turns into rehab. When images circulated of Johnny Football tightly rolling a dollar bill in a bathroom, which is regularly done to snort cocaine, his privilege made it out to be a joke.

This very privilege appears to have now saved Johnny from an arrest for domestic violence and driving under the influence.

Multiple people called 911 to report the car that Manziel was driving was swerving erratically and that he appeared to be violent with a female passenger. When they were pulled over by police, Colleen Crowley, visibly shaken and crying, repeatedly told authorities that Manziel “hurt” and “hit” her multiple times. In spite of clear marks on her body, and Manziel admitting that he had been drinking earlier in the day, police opted not to arrest him.

Come again? A man is so unsafe on the road that multiple people feel the need to call 911, he admits to drinking, and his passenger openly claims he was abusive, and he’s free to go?

Be honest with yourself: If we started to strip away the privilege from Manziel, would he have been let go and treated with kid gloves?

Would a black quarterback have been set free?

What about a black actor?

Or, what if a poor, Black, unemployed man had three people call the police on him and he admitted to drinking and had an emotional passenger claim he was abusive? Would that poor black man be free to go? You and I know the answer to that question.

Do police, who have a rate of domestic violence higher than any profession in the nation, even have the moral authority to lead on this issue?

Will Manziel be blacklisted from the NFL like Ray Rice or banned for the year like Greg Hardy?

I doubt it.

Stop it. No one knows what happened for sure. Manziel has seen his fair share of criticism in the past, his "privilege" hasn't shielded him from anything.

 

[rolaholic]

Josh Freeman wishes his last name was Manziel...

 

[keel252]

Beating around the bush... Y'all know why nothing will come of this. Clear as day.

 

[jpzx]

PIT-ARZ Super Bowl on NFL Network right now. You won't miss the James Harrison INT if you turn it now...

Damn, Ben Patrick's TD to give the Cards their first TD was insane. Forgot about it.

 

[jjs07]

*popcorn ready*

You really do wonder how much differently JFF would've been treated had he come from a less fortunate background,dude's have been blackballed from the league for MUCH less...

I said last year, he wouldn't even be in the league if he was black.

When I first heard he had an argument in the car with his girl, I knew it was more than that. Cops don't get called over a verbal argument in a car, that doesn't happen. This is all ******** and sickening.

He wouldn't be in the league if he was black? HOT TAKE!!!!!

I guess we'll forget his college career, because it wasn't that good.

Argue his 1st round merits...sure. But he's good enough to be on a roster.

 

[elpablo21]

 

On Manziel, read it if you get the chance:
 

People of privilege seem to be above the law when it comes to violence

BY SHAUN KING NEW YORK DAILY NEWS




In America, we act like putting the word “domestic” before violence somehow softens the slug of a fist to a woman’s face. It doesn’t.

This strategy, though, of putting privileged adjectives before words that describe the horror faced by the victims of violence is common here. Domestic violence is just violence. Police brutality is just brutality. An officer involved shooting is just a shooting. The victims hurt, bleed and die—like everyone else.

When people of privilege use brute force to harm others, systems of power and privilege almost immediately kick in to protect them.

Few people are as privileged in America as Cleveland Browns quarterback Johnny Manziel.

Being a rich, white, famous, NFL quarterback puts a person in the upper echelon of American privilege. Traditional rules need not apply to Johnny Football. With his privilege, drug possession morphs into drug addiction and jail time turns into rehab. When images circulated of Johnny Football tightly rolling a dollar bill in a bathroom, which is regularly done to snort cocaine, his privilege made it out to be a joke.

This very privilege appears to have now saved Johnny from an arrest for domestic violence and driving under the influence.

Multiple people called 911 to report the car that Manziel was driving was swerving erratically and that he appeared to be violent with a female passenger. When they were pulled over by police, Colleen Crowley, visibly shaken and crying, repeatedly told authorities that Manziel “hurt” and “hit” her multiple times. In spite of clear marks on her body, and Manziel admitting that he had been drinking earlier in the day, police opted not to arrest him.

Come again? A man is so unsafe on the road that multiple people feel the need to call 911, he admits to drinking, and his passenger openly claims he was abusive, and he’s free to go?

Be honest with yourself: If we started to strip away the privilege from Manziel, would he have been let go and treated with kid gloves?

Would a black quarterback have been set free?

What about a black actor?

Or, what if a poor, Black, unemployed man had three people call the police on him and he admitted to drinking and had an emotional passenger claim he was abusive? Would that poor black man be free to go? You and I know the answer to that question.

Do police, who have a rate of domestic violence higher than any profession in the nation, even have the moral authority to lead on this issue?

Will Manziel be blacklisted from the NFL like Ray Rice or banned for the year like Greg Hardy?

I doubt it.

Stop it. No one knows what happened for sure. Manziel has seen his fair share of criticism in the past, his "privilege" hasn't shielded him from anything.

I like Manziel, I root for his success but you can't possibly really believe that if he was from a different background and had the same track record of his...partying, drinking and reported lack of work ethic it would be viewed the same

 

[Trey Bantz]

PIT-ARZ Super Bowl on NFL Network right now. You won't miss the James Harrison INT if you turn it now...

Great game. Probably my second favorite SB this decade after Giants-Pats in 07.

 

[war daddy]

I said last year, he wouldn't even be in the league if he was black.

LOL.

 

[jpzx]

Great game. Probably my second favorite SB this decade after Giants-Pats in 07.

After the first quarter, when it was 3-0, I turned to everybody I was with and said, 'Worst. Super. Bowl. Ever.'

I just assumed more of what had just happened was to come.

Then the next three quarters happened.

 

[Hahahaha]

*popcorn ready*

You really do wonder how much differently JFF would've been treated had he come from a less fortunate background,dude's have been blackballed from the league for MUCH less...

I said last year, he wouldn't even be in the league if he was black.

When I first heard he had an argument in the car with his girl, I knew it was more than that. Cops don't get called over a verbal argument in a car, that doesn't happen. This is all ******** and sickening.

He wouldn't be in the league if he was black? HOT TAKE!!!!!

I guess we'll forget his college career, because it wasn't that good.

Argue his 1st round merits...sure. But he's good enough to be on a roster.

Troy Smith won the heisman in college and had a crazy year, where is he?

I don't know if he's drafted as a QB but it wouldn't have been first round. He wouldn't be in the league this year if he was black and having problems with coaches and teammates for lack of effort and worth ethic problems. Issues with partying and alcohol/drug use. And also being awful last year when given the chance to play. That's too many strikes during and after a rookie season.

 

[captainsneakerhead23]

Johnny is white and comes from big money so he continuously gets a pass for his tomfoolery.

Same ol' story, just a different name

 

[stillin729]

Troy Smith won the heisman in college and had a crazy year, where is he?

I don't know if he's drafted as a QB but it wouldn't have been first round. He wouldn't be in the league this year if he was black and having problems with coaches and teammates for lack of effort and worth ethic problems. Partying problems and alcohol/drug use. And also being awful last year when given the chance to play. That's too many strikes during and after a rookie season.

he spent 6 years in the league and is 31 years old

where is Eric Crouch right now?

huge reach

 

[Trey Bantz]

I like Manziel, I root for his success but you can't possibly really believe that if he was from a different background and had the same track record of his...partying, drinking and lack of work reported work ethic it would be viewed the same

You must have a short memory because Manziel was getting crucified by the media not too long ago. My main gualm with that article are the assumptions the author makes and the overreaching conclusions he draws from them. The truth is that no one really knows what happened for sure. Dude is comparing him to Ray Rice? FOH. Ray Rice was caught beating the **** out of his gf on camera. And don't forget that the NFL tried its hardest to sweep that under the rug. It wasn't until the media got a hold of the video that the NFL blacklisted him.

 

[dmxfury]

Johnny is white and comes from big money so he continuously gets a pass for his tomfoolery.

Same ol' story, just a different name

Who gives him a pass though? It seems everyone is always all over this guy and dislikes him

 

[DeadsetAce]

Johnny is white and comes from big money so he continuously gets a pass for his tomfoolery.

Same ol' story, just a different name

Who gives him a pass though? It seems everyone is always all over this guy and dislikes him

this

 

[rolaholic]

Johnny is white and comes from big money so he continuously gets a pass for his tomfoolery.

Same ol' story, just a different name

Who gives him a pass though? It seems everyone is always all over this guy and dislikes him

The law and the league seem to