**** Shaming

jayzz · Jul 3, 2015

OP imma be blatant and we done here.

I have dog tendencies. Am I Hugh Hefner? Hell no. Am I going to cheat on my girl/ future wife every breathing moment? No, I don't see a need to cheat. But, some females just gotta be **** so that we (as men) can fish out wifey material from flings.

Infatuation and love are 2 different things.

If you suck off the football team every 30 days, there is a substantially less chance of me taking you over lil Betsy Sue who had 1 too many beers and kissed lil Timmy on video. Also, if I did wife the football teams visitor, imagine her doing that while we're married.

2 each is own, but miss me with all that bull

Plus yes, dudes talk about girls so other dudes don't get caught up. Bes believe whatever we did last night, my boys know.

slighted · Jul 3, 2015

Kellyrep said:
If a man will sleep with a woman on the 1st date, he should be subject to the same type of scrutiny as she is.

Do you think men and women are biologically equal?

boris · Jul 3, 2015

Kellyrep said:
Boris said:

Women can be incredibly mean to each other.

Click to expand...

Men do it a lot and love to talk , spread rumors about women.

Oh.

Nike talk even posts pictures of women . So all over social media women are dragged in the dirt. Even if a eoman/ teenage girl/ baby momma whatever had the self assurance to change and actually meet a nice guy. Gyess what? Her image, past, exes are plastered up or spread about amongst males as notches in the bedpost.

I wasn't saying that men don't do the same. I was just commenting on a post.

kellyrep · Jul 3, 2015

Slighted said:
Do you think men and women are biologically equal?

If little tommy messed with 30 girls and little sue messed with 30 boys, question is, who is the biggest ***?

Your 30 seconds begins now. Don, don, don, don, don, don don...

By the way, science says no. Some women have high sex drives, some men have low. Vice versa .Some people are sadists, some are masochistic. There are many, many classifications of sexuality. Pansexuals, asexuals, etc.

It's also possible that a women who has more partners also has a higher than average sex drive. The same as some men. So no. Not all sleep around because of low self esteem. But they are still shamed because of their sexuality.

kellyrep · Jul 3, 2015

Jayzz said:
OP imma be blatant and we done here.

I have dog tendencies. Am I Hugh Hefner? Hell no. Am I going to cheat on my girl/ future wife every breathing moment? No, I don't see a need to cheat. But, some females just gotta be **** so that we (as men) can fish out wifey material from flings.

Infatuation and love are 2 different things.

If you suck off the football team every 30 days, there is a substantially less chance of me taking you over lil Betsy Sue who had 1 too many beers and kissed lil Timmy on video. Also, if I did wife the football teams visitor, imagine her doing that while we're married.

2 each is own, but miss me with all that bull

Plus yes, dudes talk about girls so other dudes don't get caught up. Bes believe whatever we did last night, my boys know.

Let's be honest. If a girl sleeps around with the whole football team, there is something else going on with her. All these men get to walk away unscathed. How about you are by definition wwho and what you choose to sleep with ? Because this is applied to the girl in this case.

How about boys who willingly went in after their friends and "boys"? She obviously didn't clean herself up if she was with 30. If one of those boys got with a good Christian girl others look away and say nothing but it's ok and critical to tear about anything meaningful that girl may pursue in the future? Whatever.

jayzz · Jul 3, 2015

Kellyrep said:
If little tommy messed with 30 girls and little sue messed with 30 boys, question is, who is the biggest ***?

Your 30 seconds begins now. Don, don, don, don, don, don don...View media item 1612381

By the way, science says no. Some women have high sex drives, some men have low. Vice versa .Some people are sadists, some are masochistic. There are many, many classifications of sexuality. Pansexuals, asexuals, etc.

It's also possible that a women who has more partners also has a higher than average sex drive. The same as some men. So no. Not all sleep around because of low self esteem. But they are still shamed because of their sexuality.

Sue because Tommy can't get pregnant

Got eem.
Partially srs

jayzz · Jul 3, 2015

Kellyrep said:
Let's be honest. If a girl sleeps around with the whole football team, there is something else going on with her. All these men get to walk away unscathed. How about you are by definition wwho and what you choose to sleep with ? Because this is applied to the girl in this case.

How about boys who willingly went in after their friends and "boys"? She obviously didn't clean herself up if she was with 30. If one of those boys got with a good Christian girl others look away and say nothing but it's ok and critical to tear about anything meaningful that girl may pursue in the future? Whatever.

So dudes can't have issues when they sleep around?
That's what I'm getting and that seems like exactly the opposite of what you're poking at.

slighted · Jul 3, 2015

Kellyrep said:
Let's be honest. If a girl sleeps around with the whole football team, there is something else going on with her. All these men get to walk away unscathed. How about you are by definition wwho and what you choose to sleep with ? Because this is applied to the girl in this case.

How about boys who willingly went in after their friends and "boys"? She obviously didn't clean herself up if she was with 30. If one of those boys got with a good Christian girl others look away and say nothing but it's ok and critical to tear about anything meaningful that girl may pursue in the future? Whatever.

Who ultimately says yes to sex? The man or the woman?

kellyrep · Jul 3, 2015

Jayzz said:
Sue because Tommy can't get pregnant

Got eem.
Partially srs

In the time that Sue could carry a child, Tommy can continue spread seed like wildflower which I know I'm biased but it's more gross. Sue can have 1 child in 9 months. Tommy can have 100.

There is no difference.

fontaine · Jul 3, 2015

Jayzz said:
Gonna be honest, stopped at "hanging out with a bunch of guys."
Not because it's wrong
Because I have a short attention span and lost intrest

If you're going to be a ****, own up to it. I respect females who will willingly say "I'm a ****, and I suck **** all the damn time". I mean don't expect me to superman cape you because you're a *** but you know... good for you.

Any chick that only hangs with straight dudes

90% of the time, she sluttin' it up

thejrob said:
I have a feeling NT just isn't the place you are going to find the discussion on this issue you are hoping for.

Personally I get what you're saying, but this topic is really just a small part of the larger discussion of traditional gender roles and systemic gender bias. Everything that people ascribe to "men being different" has nothing to do with human nature. It's just what our collective consciousness and societies have accepted as being human nature over time.

Either way, you'll have no problem finding better discussion on this elsewhere.

Nah bee... It's not apart of a larger discussion.

There's certain things not just from a societal standpoint, but a functional standpoint... That men can do and women can't and vice versa...

You don't SHAME a dude for having sex because he doesn't get offered sex 364 days of the year by just walking about the house.

It's a double standard for a few reasons, one already being mentioned about the house and master key...

But also... A woman can LITERALLY live her life based on a man's seed.

How many chicks you know have multiple baby daddies, taking care of the kids and daddies financially, and holding it all together?

I know a cat that manages a footlocker snd holding down 2 BMs

kellyrep · Jul 3, 2015

Slighted said:
Who ultimately says yes to sex? The man or the woman?

That is ridiculous. Two people have to consent to sex. By definition, that is what it is.

If Honey Boo Boo's mom wanted to have sex with you, who consents?

blastercombo · Jul 3, 2015

Kellyrep said:
If a man will sleep with a woman on the 1st date, he should be subject to the same type of scrutiny as she is.

Ehhhh. Bad mother should have their kids taken away from them and given to the father, but they don't unless extreme situations happen. A woman can call the police and cry rape even if it's consensual and the man is guilty until proven innocent. A woman can start a fist fight with a man and the man will go to jail for hitting a woman. A woman can marry rich and take half of a mans earnings.

There are social norms that go both ways and being "**** shamed" is at the bottom of that list. Don't **** around with garbage men and don't have horrible friends that will air you out and you won't have a problem. It's really so simple. And yes, outside extreme circumstances it's the female who gives sex a go. That's just reality here.

Girls want to cry independent woman and "I don't care what others think, I do me!" Get called a **** and all of a sudden the world is crashing down. At the same time they actually DO what they're being shamed for. Choose a story and stick to it

fontaine · Jul 3, 2015

Kellyrep said:
That is ridiculous. Two people have to consent to sex. By definition, that is what it is.

If Honey Boo Boo's mom wanted to have sex with you, who consents?

#ntextremes

Take an average looking me, and an abaerage looking female and ask the question.

kellyrep · Jul 3, 2015

Fontaine said:
Any chick that only hangs with straight dudes

90% of the time, she sluttin' it up
Nah bee... It's not apart of a larger discussion.

There's certain things not just from a societal standpoint, but a functional standpoint... That men can do and women can't and vice versa...

You don't SHAME a dude for having sex because he doesn't get offered sex 364 days of the year by just walking about the house.

It's a double standard for a few reasons, one already being mentioned about the house and master key...

But also... A woman can LITERALLY live her life based on a man's seed.

How many chicks you know have multiple baby daddies, taking care of the kids and daddies financially, and holding it all together?

I know a cat that manages a footlocker snd holding down 2 BMs

No, no , no.

GOOD LOOKING MEN get offered sex ALL the time.

If you ugly, you may have to work harder.

I guarantee you Boris Kodjoe, Brad Pitt, Johnny Depp ain't never had to chase no tail. I've never seen a good looking man work at finding sex, even one with no job or prospects.

slighted · Jul 3, 2015

BLASTERCOMBO said:
Ehhhh. Bad mother should have their kids taken away from them and given to the father, but they don't unless extreme situations happen. A woman can call the police and cry rape even if it's consensual and the man is guilty until proven innocent. A woman can start a fist fight with a man and the man will go to jail for hitting a woman. A woman can marry rich and take half of a mans earnings.

If you call a woman out on anything, you're immediately shamed.

Women get lots of privileges in modern society, but this topic seems like a defense to OP's guilt.

fontaine · Jul 3, 2015

BLASTERCOMBO said:
Ehhhh. Bad mother should have their kids taken away from them and given to the father, but they don't unless extreme situations happen. A woman can call the police and cry rape even if it's consensual and the man is guilty until proven innocent. A woman can start a fist fight with a man and the man will go to jail for hitting a woman. A woman can marry rich and take half of a mans earnings.

There are social norms that go both ways and being "**** shamed" is at the bottom of that list. Don't **** around with garbage men and don't have horrible friends that will air you out and you won't have a problem. It's really so simple. And yes, outside extreme circumstances it's the female who gives sex a go. That's just reality here.

Girls want to cry independent woman and "I don't care what others think, I do me!" Get called a **** and all of a sudden the world is crashing down.

twoonesicks · Jul 3, 2015

sluts deserved to be shamed

only a **** or a thirsty dude who can only get sluts would get offended by it

"dont save her, she dont wanna be saved"

kellyrep · Jul 3, 2015

Fontaine said:
#ntextremes

Take an average looking me, and an abaerage looking female and ask the question.

A man and a woman can both find sex equally. People tend to be selective about who they take to bed.

Those hypothetical 30 football players would not brag to their friends about 300 lb Sheila with the bad knees.

jayzz · Jul 3, 2015

So good lookimg girls don't get the diiiiuuuhh thrown at them?

Double Standards and Generalizations everywhere

kellyrep · Jul 3, 2015

Fontaine said:

THE woman gets custody for a very important reason you are omitting.

It's even down to biology.

A baby comes from a woman's egg that has been fertilized by a man. She carries and nourishes it for 9 months. She delivers the baby through tremendous pain and permanent damage to her body. She can feel it moving and kicking inside her. She feeds it with her own breast milk and continues lactating for months after it's delivery. It technically belongs to her.

kellyrep · Jul 3, 2015

TwoOneSicks said:
sluts deserved to be shamed

only a **** or a thirsty dude who can only get sluts would get offended by it

"dont save her, she dont wanna be saved"

The man is a **** then too. Going at it on the first night.

Some of you admit it yourselves that the only reason you're on POF and OKC is to look for women to have sex with. Sounds like Nymphos to me.

fontaine · Jul 3, 2015

I remember I used to talk to this chick that tried to tell me that men can get sex easier than women

I asked her how many times have women raped men, or went on a killing spree and killed themselves because a few men turned them down, or why male strip clubs are so scarce, or why over 75% of prostitution arrests are either women giving up the clamb, or men buying the clamb...

She said "I don't know but I'm sure just as many as guys!"

At that moment, I knew I had won the argument. :lol:

slighted · Jul 3, 2015

Fontaine said:
I remember I used to talk to this chick that tried to tell me that men can get sex easier than women

I asked her how many times have women raped men, or went on a killing spree and killed themselves because a few men turned them down, or why male strip clubs are so scarce, or why over 75% of prostitution arrests are either women giving up the clamb, or men buying the clamb...

She said "I don't know but I'm sure just as many as guys!"

At that moment, I knew I had won the argument.

Arguments are pretty easy to win when you use sound logic and your opponent uses ad hominem attacks/emotions.

fontaine · Jul 3, 2015

Jayzz said:
So ~~good lookimg girls~~ below averagedon't get the diiiiuuuhh thrown at them?

Double Standards and Generalizations everywhere

Fixed...

Chicks out here be getting the D handed to them like water at a restaurant

You ain't gotta be good looking to be a woman a get laid consistently..

You gotta have SOME REDEEMING quality to be a man and get consistent tail

kidkidd · Jul 3, 2015

My father always said.. You can't call her a *** if you ain't never smashed or witnessed her in action.

I don't have time to be shamming *******, is this what ***** are resorting to nowadays

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