Asian Culture Discussion Thread

[jape]

ill tell you one thing i hate is the passive aggressiveness i get from a lot of asian women.  **** drives me crazy...instead of addressing a problem they will do things to annoy you or show they are mad but won't directly address the problem.

 

[equality]

I'll share my story.

Moved to New Zealand from Taiwan when I was 5. Used to bring Asian food such as dumplings, rice etc to school for lunch. Bullied and laughed at for it. I still remember after my first week at school I went home and told my mum I'm never going to school again 

 Like a lot of younger Asian kids I was ashamed of my culture. Being picked on and excluded for being Asian made me work extra hard to fit in with white people. Used to have crushes on white girls in school and they'd always look at me with pity 

It wasn't until when I was about 15 years old I went back to Taiwan for 2 months during a holiday that I started really embracing my heritage. Asian history is so deep and fascinating I started to actually be happy I was born into an Asian family.

I still believe those negative stereotypes exist, a lot of it comes from upbringing. I was always ridiculed by my parents for loving and spending so much time with basketball despite bringing home multiple trophies. It was always school first and if you weren't planning on becoming a doctor, lawyer, engineer you were destined for failure. That home environment could really kill a young kid's self esteem and confidence and I think that's where the stereotype of Asian men failing with women outside their race comes from.

I love my parents for everything they've done for me but I know if I have kids I would go about educating them in a very different way. 

 

[stihl]

The media is still brainwashing women to believe that white men are the archetype of masculinity. That white women are the archetype of beauty.
 

Not really anymore. In the last maybe 15+ years, the media portrays White males as soft or feminine compared to Black males. You see a lot of films and tv shows with a Black male and a White female. Almost never the other way around.

 

[HEATHEN]

Not really anymore. In the last maybe 15+ years, the media portrays White males as soft or feminine compared to Black males. You see a lot of films and tv shows with a Black male and a White female. Almost never the other way around.

Nah bro.


What you're describing are outliers.


And it transcends just the black/white dynamic.


Asians, Latinos, and other racial groups are misrepresented.

 

[stihl]

Nah bro.


What you're describing are outliers.


And it transcends just the black/white dynamic.


Asians, Latinos, and other racial groups are misrepresented.

I agree with Asians and Latinos, but I think Blacks get a lot of exposure. If you notice any show or movie with a Black male with a White girlfriend, they always cast the White guy friend as the goofy nerd, next to the cool, suave, strong Black guy.

 

[mr marcus]

The media is still brainwashing women to believe that white men are the archetype of masculinity. That white women are the archetype of beauty.

 

Not really anymore. In the last maybe 15+ years, the media portrays White males as soft or feminine compared to Black males. You see a lot of films and tv shows with a Black male and a White female. Almost never the other way around.

hipster, yea but not soft

And the black males with females are usually "safe" black males. Donald glover types

 

[stihl]

As far as the film industries go, there seems to be a lot of Asians in high profile directorial roles. But they never cast Asians as leads, maybe a 3rd tier character. So is it fair to say, your own people close the doors on Asian actors? Or is it because the producers are calling the shots on who they can cast?

 

[equality]

 
I agree with Asians and Latinos, but I think Blacks get a lot of exposure. If you notice any show or movie with a Black male with a White girlfriend, they always cast the White guy friend as the goofy nerd, next to the cool, suave, strong Black guy.

That comes from the increased pressure of being politically correct in today's age.

I still think at the root, the stereotypes still strongly exist.

The global standards of beauty is still whiteness

 

[EddieDoyers]

Inspired by the Black Culture Discussion Thread

Some stereotypes we need to address:
- Lack of masculinity
- Low self confidence/self esteem
- No talents outside of studying
- Lack of success with women

How do we improve and break out of society's limitations?

*Those stereotypes aren't things I agree with, just judgements and perceptions I know for a fact non-asians have of us

Mainstream media is the cancer for all this.

Thank god for YouTube though. All these Indie Asian American filmmakers

 

[equality]

 
As far as the film industries go, there seems to be a lot of Asians in high profile directorial roles. But they never cast Asians as leads, maybe a 3rd tier character. So is it fair to say, your own people close the doors on Asian actors? Or is it because the producers are calling the shots on who they can cast?

It's because even though the directors are Asian, they know what sells and appeals to the masses. Sucks but that's reality

 

[stihl]

 
That comes from the increased pressure of being politically correct in today's age.

I still think at the root, the stereotypes still strongly exist.

The global standards of beauty is still whiteness

As far White females being the standard, can you blame the media? I think the general opinion of men is that White women are the most desireable. Just look at that Hilary Duff thread. You got all kinds of minorities in there talking about voting Republican to get with her.

Even in that other Asian thread, all the guys in there have or want a White gf.

 

[stihl]

 
It's because even though the directors are Asian, they know what sells and appeals to the masses. Sucks but that's reality

Instead of going against the grain and break grounds, they prefer to play the role and collect their check.

 

[equality]

 
As far White females being the standard, can you blame the media? I think the general opinion of men is that White women are the most desireable. Just look at that Hilary Duff thread. You got all kinds of minorities in there talking about voting Republican to get with her.

Even in that other Asian thread, all the guys in there have or want a White gf.

Nah I don't blame the media for that. I think it's deeply rooted in society over generations. I wish I had the answer as to why. I definitely know I'm attracted as **** to white women, but African American women will always be number 1 for me. I have no idea why but that's how it is.

 

[mr marcus]

Hard for a director to break the norm when you have the top people funding your major project :/

They dictate it all

 

[EddieDoyers]

There's nothing wrong with having a white gf.

 

[wj4]

There's nothing wrong with having a white gf.

You'll be getting mad dabs for sure, assuming chick is at least average

 

[stihl]

I just looked up Justin Lin's credits as director. He's been in 19 projects and only 1 film, "Better luck tomorrow" has Asian leads. I liked that film by the way. Breath of fresh air and this was like 12 years ago.

 

[EddieDoyers]

You'll be getting mad dabs for sure, assuming chick is at least average

I don't settle for average
needs to be 7 at least
But see, that's the problem with American society and their view of interracial dating with Asian males. It's somewhat frowned upon by white society for a white woman to date an Asian male, yet it's totally fine a white man dates a Asian chick.
We shouldn't need daps or special looks from friends to be dating someone not related to our skin tone or culture, rather just "Hey your girlfriend looks nice" and keep it moving. But as long as racism and stereotypes exist, this cycle will continue to happen.

 

[EddieDoyers]

I just looked up Justin Lin's credits as director. He's been in 19 projects and only 1 film, "Better luck tomorrow" has Asian leads. I liked that film by the way. Breath of fresh air and this was like 12 years ago.

Had to watch that for my upper division Asian American studies class, I liked it.

 

[equality]

I don't settle for average

needs to be 7 at least
But see, that's the problem with American society and their view of interracial dating with Asian males. It's somewhat frowned upon by white society for a white woman to date an Asian male, yet it's totally fine a white man dates a Asian chick.
We shouldn't need daps or special looks from friends to be dating someone not related to our skin tone or color, rather just "Hey your girlfriend looks nice" and keep it moving. But as long as racism and stereotypes exist, this cycle will continue to happen.

Yep. I don't know how many times I've heard "He's Asian but not Asian Asian" from girls describing me

 

[EddieDoyers]

Yep. I don't know how many times I've heard "He's Asian but not Asian Asian" from girls describing me

Luckily I never heard that said about me, but damn

Can't do anything about the racism though, it's been hardwired into people by dominant aka white society
The only way we can combat this is by not making deals with white society, but rather paving our own successes.
For example, the Chinese Americans set up banks here that helped stabilize the Chinese communities and help promote economic growth. You never hear white people laugh at our money.
Now Asian Americans are popular on YouTube (Ryan Higa, WongFuProductions, JKFilms, Michelle Phan), got people realizing Asian Americans are more diverse and talented in other areas
The only way is up now.

 

[equality]

Luckily I never heard that said about me, but damn

Can't do anything about the racism though, it's been hardwired into people by dominant aka white society
The only way we can combat this is by not making deals with white society, but rather paving our own successes.
For example, the Chinese Americans set up banks here that helped stabilize the Chinese communities and help promote economic growth. You never hear white people laugh at our money.
Now Asian Americans are popular on YouTube (Ryan Higa, WongFuProductions, JKFilms, Michelle Phan), got people realizing Asian Americans are more diverse and talented in other areas
The only way is up now.

I think there is a big difference in how Asian Americans are perceived and how Asians in other countries are perceived.

I used to let this get me down, but my desire and persistence to improve is much greater now.

 

[Nawzlew]

 
It's because even though the directors are Asian, they know what sells and appeals to the masses. Sucks but that's reality

Instead of going against the grain and break grounds, they prefer to play the role and collect their check.

The studios would be pissed if they went with an Asian lead, lettuce be cereal.

 

[sfc415]

The most disrespectful thing is when they have white dudes play Asian characters. For example that Dragon Ball movie with a white dude playing Goku. I mean yeah he's technically an alien, and yes, it would've been trash no matter what, but come on, in the anime he and the other Saiyans clearly look 100% Asian.

Another movie that comes to mind is The Prince of Persia being played by Jake Gyllenhaal with a spray tan Different type of Asian but still Asian nonetheless

 

[limonyfresh]

Anyone else feel like the way our parents conveyed "success" to us as kids is the true culprit behind dominant culture's perception of us, both socially and intellectually? I.E. the "good jobs" aka intellectual jobs became the holy grail in their eyes so in order to live up to their expectations we conditioned ourselves to be better at and spend more time overall studying/working ect which inadvertently led to less dynamic social skill and/or sports ability thus spawning the sterotypes of "hard worker," "diligent," "passive aggressive," "nerdy," and so on