Chargeback on paypal

moneylicious · Jul 10, 2015

yanky said:
Where are the text where the buyer tries to contact the seller?

its up there b.

It is petty, but i can see where the buyer is coming from.

Seller wanted to be play hard ball, so the buyer went a different route and played hard ball.

Now that the tables have turned, seller wants to iron it out?

@mrmakemoney it is considered 'stealing' if you dont return the shoes. Do you want to be considered a thief?

@Hanacheezy just keep a negative amount on paypal n leave it alone. They cant dip into your bank acct/CC.

dontbelikethat · Jul 10, 2015

BLASTERCOMBO said:
Where was any of this said in any of the texts?

mrmakemoney said:
Here I am.

heliumclinton · Jul 10, 2015

Dude agreed to buy some shoes as is and then didn't like how they looked even after he received pics so he wanted his money back.

So the seller was suppose to send the money back while the buyer has the shoes in his possession? How was he suppose to know he wasn't scamming him?

:smh:

heliumclinton · Jul 10, 2015

How didn't the seller cooperate when the buyer was the one who said he was sending the shoes back and never did that

dontbelikethat · Jul 10, 2015

MoNeyLiCiouS said:
its up there b.

It is petty, but i can see where the buyer is coming from.

Seller wanted to be play hard ball, so the buyer went a different route and played hard ball.

Now that the tables have turned, seller wants to iron it out?

@mrmakemoney it is considered 'stealing' if you dont return the shoes. Do you want to be considered a thief?

@Hanacheezy just keep a negative amount on paypal n leave it alone. They cant dip into your bank acct/CC.

Took long enough for someone else to get it.

I'm not so sure about paypal not having the ability to dip into your bank/CC, but I know for sure that they can send it to collections and that can affect your credit score.

heLiumcLinton said:
Dude agreed to buy some shoes as is and then didn't like how they looked even after he received pics so he wanted his money back.

So the seller was suppose to send the money back while the buyer has the shoes in his possession? How was he suppose to know he wasn't scamming him?

That's why the dude filed a claim with paypal, eBay and paypal has a protocol on how the return process works. Anyone who uses eBay and paypal long enough and has handled returns understands what's going on.

heLiumcLinton said:
How didn't the seller cooperate when the buyer was the one who said he was sending the shoes back and never did that

The buyer filed a claim with paypal, that's all he is supposed to do. Then paypal uses their service for safe returns for both sides to ensure no one gets scammed or at least the seller can get his money back even if the dude sends back rocks by filing a police report. Again, if you're an avid user of paypal or eBay, this is easily known.

moneylicious · Jul 10, 2015

seems like the seller basically told the buyer to kick rocks from the text messages imo.

blastercombo · Jul 10, 2015

He agreed to worn shoes and got worn shoes. Nothing about those pics hide anything. The buyer is claiming they're in worse condition than he thought. Those pictures are as clear as day and dude bought beat shoes. Buyer is an idiot. The definition of a deadbeat buyer

The buyer files the claim to PayPal NOT the seller. At that point the seller does the return without a choice. And YES PayPal will make your PayPal account go negative. Letting it stay negative will get it sent to collections

Belgium · Jul 10, 2015

Watch your door mrmakemoney. You should have some pizza arriving soon.

SC kid · Jul 10, 2015

Wow dude is a lil ***** lol

heliumclinton · Jul 10, 2015

He had to press claim on his laptop in his bed

That's jumping through hoops :lol:

jjoaquin · Jul 10, 2015

MoNeyLiCiouS said:
seems like the seller basically told the buyer to kick rocks from the text messages imo.

But that really doesn't matter. Buyer got his refund which is what he wanted. There's no reason for him to keep the shoes.

jjoaquin · Jul 10, 2015

Admit it mrmakemoney.. its larceny, the intent to deprive the owner of their property

Seems like you're trying to teach the seller a lesson but keep in mind its at the expense of your reputation... #bannedcamp?

Gordonson · Jul 10, 2015

sckid20 said:
Wow dude is a lil ***** lol

Pettiest ____ alive.

While I can understand being disappointed by the condition they arrived in (both you and your girl either live under in the worst lighting possible, or are some of the worst photographers of all time OP :lol:

), you got your money back.

Just give son his shoes and call it a day on this all. You're just looking like a lame now.

moneylicious · Jul 10, 2015

jjoaquin said:
MoNeyLiCiouS said:

seems like the seller basically told the buyer to kick rocks from the text messages imo.

Click to expand...

But that really doesn't matter. Buyer got his refund which is what he wanted. There's no reason for him to keep the shoes.

i agree.

But im saying, he wanted to keep paypal out of it. But was forced to bc the seller didnt want to work with him.

So now he'll await directions from paypal. I dont really see what the issue is.

He could A) be a good samaritan and send the shoes back using his own money or B) drag is feet and let paypal deal with it.

What's ******ed is paypal telling the seller to kick rocks n work it out with the seller. LULZ.

c hanna · Jul 10, 2015

Quan Baker is blatantly not sending the shoes back after he got his money back

I did not see paypal's email (again my fault) and didnt even know there was the dispute until i tried to pay for something on paypal

never tried to contact me after the text that was shown above

blastercombo · Jul 10, 2015

Why anyone would pay 160 for beyond beat shoes is the real question

SC kid · Jul 10, 2015

I straight up cant believe how petty and childish ol boy is.

49ersaaron8 · Jul 10, 2015

What are those even?

the buyer epitomizes broke boy.

dontbelikethat · Jul 10, 2015

jjoaquin said:
Seems like you're trying to teach the seller a lesson but keep in mind its at the expense of your reputation... #bannedcamp?

This has already been established, the dude is being petty, he even said it himself that what he's doing is petty.

BLASTERCOMBO said:
He agreed to worn shoes and got worn shoes. Nothing about those pics hide anything. The buyer is claiming they're in worse condition than he thought. Those pictures are as clear as day and dude bought beat shoes. Buyer is an idiot. The definition of a deadbeat buyer

The buyer files the claim to PayPal NOT the seller. At that point the seller does the return without a choice. And YES PayPal will make your PayPal account go negative. Letting it stay negative will get it sent to collections

If he's a deadbeat buyer/has buyer's remorse, then he's an ***, but maybe the shoes were really in worse condition than expected? I don't know because I don't have the shoes in my hands. Either way though, yes, the buyer gets honored a refund if they want to if they believe the shoes are not as described. The seller didn't work with the buyer, so the buyer took to his means to get his money back. Your entire narrative is on the belief that the buyer had buyer's remorse, and maybe so, but I don't see how you can certainly draw that conclusion with out a doubt.

If the return is handled properly the seller would've got his money back for selling the item, he may have been out his shipping fees, but it wouldn't be negative 160 or so like it is now. As a long time eBay/Paypal user, I've had to deal with situations like this, and it definitely sucks for the seller, but that's the problems you gotta deal with when using eBay/paypal since it's part of their ToS.

mrmakemoney · Jul 10, 2015

BLASTERCOMBO said:
He agreed to worn shoes and got worn shoes. Nothing about those pics hide anything. The buyer is claiming they're in worse condition than he thought. Those pictures are as clear as day and dude bought beat shoes. Buyer is an idiot. The definition of a deadbeat buyer

The buyer files the claim to PayPal NOT the seller. At that point the seller does the return without a choice. And YES PayPal will make your PayPal account go negative. Letting it stay negative will get it sent to collections

. The pics posted are the ines I sent back to the seller to show condition.

mrmakemoney · Jul 10, 2015

The shoes are still posted in the buy/sell 9.5-10; check them out and tell me what you see.

isco · Jul 10, 2015

49ersaaron8 said:
What are those even?

the buyer epitomizes broke boy.

http://www.flightclub.com/nike-dunk-low-premium-sb-sbtg-sable-green-metallic-gold-080182

blastercombo · Jul 10, 2015

dontbelikethat said:
This has already been established, the dude is being petty, he even said it himself that what he's doing is petty.

If he's a deadbeat buyer/has buyer's remorse, then he's an ***, but maybe the shoes were really in worse condition than expected? I don't know because I don't have the shoes in my hands. Either way though, yes, the buyer gets honored a refund if they want to if they believe the shoes are not as described. The seller didn't work with the buyer, so the buyer took to his means to get his money back. Your entire narrative is on the belief that the buyer had buyer's remorse, and maybe so, but I don't see how you can certainly draw that conclusion with out a doubt.

If the return is handled properly the seller would've got his money back for selling the item, he may have been out his shipping fees, but it wouldn't be negative 160 or so like it is now. As a long time eBay/Paypal user, I've had to deal with situations like this, and it definitely sucks for the seller, but that's the problems you gotta deal with when using eBay/paypal since it's part of their ToS.

Buyer is claiming selling isn't working with him to return them. The seller has NO control over giving money back if the buyer files a simple claim. Once that is done the money will changes hand regardless if the sell wants to or not. To sit here and say he had to Juno through hoops for a refund is a life. You log in a click "file a claim" or "item is not as described" and it's a done deal. You wait a couple days and it's over. The went via credit card credit return to bypass the PayPal policy. People usually do this to scam. I'm actually going to go a step ahead of that and say THAT is what people do that for. Then he refuses to return the shoes to "prove a point"? All credibility is lost.

SC kid · Jul 10, 2015

mrmakemoney said:
The shoes are still posted in the buy/sell 9.5-10; check them out and tell me what you see.

Oh yea they do look different :rofl:

Son got cat fished for sum sbs loooool

Still no excuse to send em back tho

mrmakemoney · Jul 10, 2015

BLASTERCOMBO said:
Buyer is claiming selling isn't working with him to return them. The seller has NO control over giving money back if the buyer files a simple claim. Once that is done the money will changes hand regardless if the sell wants to or not. To sit here and say he had to Juno through hoops for a refund is a life. You log in a click "file a claim" or "item is not as described" and it's a done deal. You wait a couple days and it's over. The went via credit card credit return to bypass the PayPal policy. People usually do this to scam. I'm actually going to go a step ahead of that and say THAT is what people do that for. Then he refuses to return the shoes to "prove a point"? All credibility is lost.

. You don't know what you're talking about dude. I didn't go through my CC; I filed a dispute with Paypal AFTER the seller didn't want to cooperate and handle the refund outside of PayPal. I had to perform an unnecessary step of engaging PayPal when dude could have just been cool about the return and refund. Please go on...

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