"As a nation, we have got to apologize for slavery" Bernie Sanders

250k is too low IMO.
Anyway we need more than money.
And I want the 40 acres and a mule tho.
 
SneakerHeathen said:
Winter91 said:
Don't want to be that dude but it's white people who need to apologize .. My ancestors were out in Laos and maybe China doing other ****
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But all of us who aren't black benefit from the inequalities that blacks face.


Especially us asians bruh.


Yes, do asians face their own challenges and tribulations? Of course. Especially south asians like Pakistanis and Indians since we're living in a post-9/11 world.


But I'd be lying if I said that we don't get certain privileges, or a certain benefit of the doubt in terms of opportunity that blacks really don't get.


When we apply for a job, we're far more likely to get that job than black people. A lot of employers gloss over applications and resumes, and automatically rule out black candidates.


They're not supposed to, but it happens.


My point is this, while other ethnic minorities are not responsible for slavery (well, unless you're Arab, then yes, your ancestors are definitely responsible for slavery), I don't think those minority groups really stand up for the black community.


Folks are too busy worrying about themselves and their people, their community, to take on that fight. Fact is this, if we want change in this country then we all need to hold ourselves and each other accountable. We've got to put first the people who were wronged the most and that is the black and native american people. They need to get their due reparations (and as far as native americans go, their reparations are BS, they're all on distant *** reservations with poor infrastructures and poor schooling, they've been essentially forgotten about) before change can happen for other minority groups that've been wronged.


So it's not about sitting back and washing your hands with the whole situation son, you live in this nation. Your ancestors may not have been responsible for slavery but you still live here thus you inherit this nation's history. Therefore it's all of our responsibility to hold this nation accountable for its injustices.


Nothing is going to be done unless we all stand up for what's right.
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I disagree. Sorry, but I don't see how I or my parents benefited from the inequalities of blacks. I said before that I would rather the government pay reparations in the form of public projects than giving each individual x amount of money as the money would be coming from taxpayers.
 
Nawzlew said:
I disagree. Sorry, but I don't see how I or my parents benefited from the inequalities of blacks. I said before that I would rather the government pay reparations in the form of public projects than giving each individual x amount of money as the money would be coming from taxpayers.
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Two applicants, one is asian, one is black.


Both equally qualified.



Or maybe the black individual is more qualified.



Do you honestly believe that in this nation that blacks are fairly considered against other races, even other minorities, for jobs?


Blacks are unemployed at a nearly 11% rate compared to asians who are unemployed at only 5%.


http://www.ibtimes.com/black-unempl...y-african-americans-see-minimal-gains-1837870



I rest my case famb.
 
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zapatohead408 said:
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How?
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Hmm....


Let's see, let's put you on a boat, feed you basically nothing, sell you, put you to work, whip you, rape you, beat you, not educate you, if you have a kid while enslaved we'll take that and sell him/her.



Does 250K sound like enough now?


Ohhhh but I get it.......That happened to black people's ancestors, right?


Okay, let's go back to the future.


So now, we'll discriminate against you, stereotype you, stigmatize you, not hire you, still not educate you because we're not going to pay for better schools in your community, arrest you, institutionalize you, dehumanize you, beat you, kill you.


With your own tax dollars paying for the salaries of the men & women sworn to protect and serve you and your community, we'll terrorize you.


We'll gentrify you.


Put you out of house and home and humiliate you.


Does 250K sound like enough now!? Does it?!




I can't even put a number on what black people have been through in this country. There's a lot of tax initiatives I disagree with, from military expenditures to the war on drugs.


But I would happily open up my wallet to help eliminate the inequalities that black people face. And I would never, ever, fix my face to say "how much is enough?"
 
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So you are basically so angry at the past (and the present) that looking for a progressive solution to reverse the continued existing systemic inequalities is pointless?

Willing to forgo a sunrise cuz you are too busy yelling at clouds. That's helpful.
 
Bernie is that dude. Very truthful and self aware politician which is very rare.

an apology is a start but in terms of helping the destruction slavery has caused to the black community in American, money/reparations for individuals won't necessarily have a lasting impact.

I think allotting funds to poor black communities to fix schools, create jobs,, cleans streets, programs for entrepreneurship, etc is the best course of action.
 
ModernDarwin said:
So you are basically so angry at the past (and the present) that looking for a progressive solution to reverse the continued existing systemic inequalities is pointless?

Willing to forgo a sunrise cuz you are too busy yelling at clouds. That's helpful.
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Did I say that?

All I'm saying is that it will take American tax dollars, everyone's to address this inequality blacks face.


And I would never ask "how much is enough?".
 
as soon as you sign up to be the president and you get to be president, you won't be able to discuss these kind of topics in an open forum.

Do you remember what Barack Obama was like before he got to be president? It's crazy how much he has changed himself or how much they changed him.
btw the reason why black folks are still at the bottom of the economy is because of capitalism, we started at the bottom when they introduced it, and now were slowing trying to gain our way to the top. And capitalism is evil, not as bad as slavery doe.
 
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ModernDarwin said:
So you are basically so angry at the past (and the present) that looking for a progressive solution to reverse the continued existing systemic inequalities is pointless?

Willing to forgo a sunrise cuz you are too busy yelling at clouds. That's helpful.
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Stop it. You detractors kill me. You know exactly what he was saying. You got a little pizza face Mexican nerd in here trying to downplay the context & effects of the transatlantic slave trade out of sheer ignorance. Heathen was simply putting it in perspective for the little nerd.

The contribution that my ancestors had on this country bc of what was forced on them is INVALUABLE. Anyone claiming different is a clown.
 
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gamble said:
Stop it. You detractors kill me. You know exactly what he was saying. You got a little pizza face Mexican nerd in here trying to downplay the context & effects of the transatlantic slave trade out of sheer ignorance. Heathen was simply putting it in perspective for the little nerd.

The contribution that my ancestors had on this country bc of what was forced on them is INVALUABLE. Anyone claiming different is a clown.
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You can huff and puff all you want about that. You can claim it was invaluable and rightly so. But, if you are content to simply hang your hat on that there is no point of even having a discussion about it. If you can't move past what happened then any attempts to help right the current injustices and inequities will always be met with that sort of defeatist mentality.

it is no disrespect to the past to try and find remedies for the future. That 25 year old white person standing across from you took no part of any of the reprehensible activities of their great great grandparents. You also were not a victim of it. However, they benefited from generations of systemic privileges and you suffered from generations of systemic oppression. It makes sense to try and fix that at as opposed to the band aid solutions we often see nowadays like "blame the police" and etc. It is the same reason that other ethnicities that freely migrated to the US, such as Asians, are so much better off in almost every aspect of life.

To this day it still surprises me how few advantages are given to the African American community to help get their community back to the same footing as everyone else. To me, I always feel that it is unfair that African Americans aren't given extra help (e.g., extra funding for predominantly black schools, etc). I feel like everyone is so eager to be PC about it and call everyone the "same" that we ignore the realities of generational inequities.
 
ModernDarwin said:
You can huff and puff all you want about that. You can claim it was invaluable and rightly so. But, if you are content to simply hang your hat on that there is no point of even having a discussion about it. If you can't move past what happened then any attempts to help right the current injustices and inequities will always be met with that sort of defeatist mentality.

it is no disrespect to the past to try and find remedies for the future. That 25 year old white person standing across from you took no part of any of the reprehensible activities of their great great grandparents. You also were not a victim of it. However, they benefited from generations of systemic privileges and you suffered from generations of systemic oppression. It makes sense to try and fix that at as opposed to the band aid solutions we often see nowadays like "blame the police" and etc. It is the same reason that other ethnicities that freely migrated to the US, such as Asians, are so much better off in almost every aspect of life.

To this day it still surprises me how few advantages are given to the African American community to help get their community back to the same footing as everyone else. To me, I always feel that it is unfair that African Americans aren't given extra help (e.g., extra funding for predominantly black schools, etc). I feel like everyone is so eager to be PC about it and call everyone the "same" that we ignore the realities of generational inequities.
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With all due respect, shut the **** up. You typing just to type. You nor any of the rest of you can tell us what & when to get over regarding a situation that each of us deal with every single day. The fact that you mentioned "blaming the police" lets me know off top you have no clue what you even going on about. Miss us all with the unnecessary detractions for the sake of typing.
 
ModernDarwin said:
You can huff and puff all you want about that. You can claim it was invaluable and rightly so. But, if you are content to simply hang your hat on that there is no point of even having a discussion about it. If you can't move past what happened then any attempts to help right the current injustices and inequities will always be met with that sort of defeatist mentality.

it is no disrespect to the past to try and find remedies for the future. That 25 year old white person standing across from you took no part of any of the reprehensible activities of their great great grandparents. You also were not a victim of it. However, they benefited from generations of systemic privileges and you suffered from generations of systemic oppression. It makes sense to try and fix that at as opposed to the band aid solutions we often see nowadays like "blame the police" and etc. It is the same reason that other ethnicities that freely migrated to the US, such as Asians, are so much better off in almost every aspect of life.

To this day it still surprises me how few advantages are given to the African American community to help get their community back to the same footing as everyone else. To me, I always feel that it is unfair that African Americans aren't given extra help (e.g., extra funding for predominantly black schools, etc). I feel like everyone is so eager to be PC about it and call everyone the "same" that we ignore the realities of generational inequities.
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Nobody should ever have to get past "what happened" for current "injustices and inequalities" to be addressed. Nobody.


Defeatist mentality? Sir, black people, at least in my mind, are the most resilient, resolute people on the face of this earth. To see how they've survived and some have even thrived in the face of almost insurmountable adversity. To say that black people first have to move past "what happened" for there to be change, that is astounding ignorance.


In my opinion they've been more than forgiving, and more than tolerant.


Nobody ever touted "blaming the police" as a solution. People are acknowledging that police are agents of oppression. Agents of a prison industrial system that disproportionately targets and incarcerates more blacks than any other racial group.


Sir, police are part of the problem. Unless that system is fixed, then there is no fix. You can't spot reduce oppression. So yes, how the police interact with the black community needs to change.


If you can't see that then, you're just undermining certain mechanisms of oppression. You have to address everything, from top to bottom. From education to the justice system.


And to say that current black people weren't a victim of their ancestor's slavery, well, I disagree. Because black people, today, can't all trace their roots back. They still hold their ancestor's captor's names. They still live in a nation full of white privilege and white denial. Funny, every 25 year old white person seems to conveniently declare "well my ancestors didn't own any slaves". Well isn't that just ******* convenient. Wouldn't it be oh so convenient if black people could just go "well I never broke the law" and it would stop the police from profiling them?


You can't treat the past and the present as mutually exclusive. Period.
 
I just want my 40 acres and a mule
And I'll settle for the dollar amount on the 40 acres. As long as it's valued at NYC midtown Manhattan prices. And I have no use for a mule so I'll settle for a Range Rover...autobiography
 
gamble said:
ModernDarwin said:
You can huff and puff all you want about that. You can claim it was invaluable and rightly so. But, if you are content to simply hang your hat on that there is no point of even having a discussion about it. If you can't move past what happened then any attempts to help right the current injustices and inequities will always be met with that sort of defeatist mentality.

it is no disrespect to the past to try and find remedies for the future. That 25 year old white person standing across from you took no part of any of the reprehensible activities of their great great grandparents. You also were not a victim of it. However, they benefited from generations of systemic privileges and you suffered from generations of systemic oppression. It makes sense to try and fix that at as opposed to the band aid solutions we often see nowadays like "blame the police" and etc. It is the same reason that other ethnicities that freely migrated to the US, such as Asians, are so much better off in almost every aspect of life.

To this day it still surprises me how few advantages are given to the African American community to help get their community back to the same footing as everyone else. To me, I always feel that it is unfair that African Americans aren't given extra help (e.g., extra funding for predominantly black schools, etc). I feel like everyone is so eager to be PC about it and call everyone the "same" that we ignore the realities of generational inequities.
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With all due respect, shut the **** up. You typing just to type. You nor any of the rest of you can tell us what & when to get over regarding a situation that each of us deal with every single day. The fact that you mentioned "blaming the police" lets me know off top you have no clue what you even going on about. Miss us all with the unnecessary detractions for the sake of typing.
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:lol: wut

I'm not saying you don't deal with it everyday, I'm merely ignorant about the topic. Can you please tell me how it is that you struggle with slavery every single day?

I'll be watching those videos on the last page tomorrow. :pimp:
 
Sometimes I wonder if I wasn't african would I be as racially ignorant as some of yall
 
FlyNY said:
I just want my 40 acres and a mule
And I'll settle for the dollar amount on the 40 acres. As long as it's valued at NYC midtown Manhattan prices. And I have no use for a mule so I'll settle for a Range Rover...autobiography
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4.1 or 4.6?
 
flaminhotcheeto said:
 
Trying to get the liberal vote
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Trying?

Dude isn't a centrist. Dude is as far left as this country has seen since the Progressive Era in the 20s.
 
zapatohead408 said:
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wut

I'm not saying you don't deal with it everyday, I'm merely ignorant about the topic. Can you please tell me how it is that you struggle with slavery every single day?

I'll be watching those videos on the last page tomorrow.
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If you cant see the ripple effects slavery has on african americans (and those that look like them) even up until this very day then youre a part of the problem.

do we have to sit through a couple more pages of ignorance or can we cut straight to the @Methodical Management  ether session?
 
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