Dentist hunts and kills Cecil the lion

I got no problem with people hunting just for sport as long as it isn't some exotic animal such as lions,tiger,elephants,rhinos etc....If you just want to hunt some abundant animal like deer or turkey I got no problem with that...I live in KY,I see tons of people that hunt for sport...
 
spacedoodoo said:
It's not that animals don't have a form of language per say but it's the fact that human language is so complex that we've created and shaped human culture. I'm not trying to say that humans are so much superior than animals but mastering language has helped us shape civilization and the way we live and function today. 

But you have a point, scientist don't know animal language to the extent of how they communicate with others. We're still observing dolphins and monkeys. It's just what we know at the moment. 
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how do you know other animals don't have more complex language? birds vocal cord can range much more viable pitches than ours just much like aquatic mammals. of course we've shaped human culture through of language. animals have too. i wouldn't doubt that some species of animal had an ancient tongue and was wiped out due to genocide much like how humans have done.
 
DaNiKeRhiNo said:
We only test them in ways we know. And based on the tests we've conducted, they are way less intelligent and thus less versatile as a whole compared to humans. Whereas, our potential is limitless(so far). But, life is precious no matter what(universally).
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i guess you have haven't seen how ants, termites, bees etc. become one for the good of a colony.
 
@the410kid

you're making yourself look like an ***. Saying you don't care about animals that don't directly reflect you is extremely selfish and idiotic. You have a messed up mentality/view about the world. It's people with your same mentality that are ruining the world's ecosystem, wasting resources, etc.
 
DCAllAmerican said:
doublemesh96 said:
They can think critically but not by our generalized definition of critical thinking which Is why I used that term
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Right so we are judging them on something that we deem important. What if a crow gave you a test to determine your innate meteorology skills. We wod fail. So I am again saying we can't place our intelligence above theirs because we can create a test and say they don't make the cut.
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makes me think of this quote:

Everyone is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.

- Anonymous
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Hanacheezy said:
@the410kid

you're making yourself look like an ***. Saying you don't care about animals that don't directly reflect you is extremely selfish and idiotic. You have a messed up mentality/view about the world. It's people with your same mentality that are ruining the world's ecosystem, wasting resources, etc.
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It's the complete disregard for living things that's sad and the fact that he's oblivious as to why that's not a productive, healthy or even normal outlook. And like you said just extremely egotistical, self absorbed and negative. One way or another he will learn. We all do. It's just about how many times are you willing to bump your head and have to repeat the class before you do.
 
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@the410kid

you're making yourself look like an ***. Saying you don't care about animals that don't directly reflect you is extremely selfish and idiotic. You have a messed up mentality/view about the world. It's people with your same mentality that are ruining the world's ecosystem, wasting resources, etc.
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All of that is YOUR personal opinion and you are entitled to that, BUT unless you can show me how lions are a critical key in keeping our ecosystem stable for HUMAN survival then you aren't saying anything to me. How would people with my mentality be the ones wasting resources???? Aren't resources a critical key in our ecosytem? Wouldn't someone with my mindset be more protective of that?
 
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DCAllAmerican said:
Right so we are judging them on something that we deem important. What if a crow gave you a test to determine your innate meteorology skills. We wod fail. So I am again saying we can't place our intelligence above theirs because we can create a test and say they don't make the cut.
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I get what you're saying. That being said, humans are still more advanced than any other species out there. Human history shows that.
 
The410Kid said:
 
All of that is YOUR personal opinion and you are entitled to that, BUT unless you can show me how lions are a critical key in keeping our ecosystem stable for HUMAN survival then you aren't saying anything to me. How would people with my mentality be the ones wasting resources???? Aren't resources a critical key in our ecosytem? Wouldn't someone with my mindset be more protective of that?
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Look up the butterfly effect. Maybe that will help you. And no, not the movie. The concept behind the movie.
 
Ryda421 said:
can't that be said about us as well ?
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Well the fundamental difference between Ants and us is free-thinking. If in the right circumstances, many people have a chance to change or incite change in humanity as a whole whereas ants are successful because they are doing what's tried and true for their species. They do not possess the capabilities to bring great change for themselves through intellectual means.
 
DaNiKeRhiNo said:
Well the fundamental difference between Ants and us is free-thinking. If in the right circumstances, many people have a chance to change or incite change in humanity as a whole whereas ants are successful because they are doing what's tried and true for their species. They do not possess the capabilities to bring great change for themselves through intellectual means.
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perhaps ants was a bad examples for free-thinking but that doesn't eliminate other creatures ability to free-think. perhaps we are so advanced in thinking that we neglect even a slight sign of free-thinking as nothing. it's not until recent history that humans have interacted with each globally (at least in the aspect which you are talking about). as a whole is kind of relative to the group. when an Egyptian pharaoh made a law, it only effect those who he governed. it didn't really effect the oriental nor the native americans.
 
Olympus said:
I get what you're saying. That being said, humans are still more advanced than any other species out there. Human history shows that.
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There are some that would point to mankind's proclivity to produce some of the greatest atrocities the world has ever seen (i.e. nuclear warfare, genocide, racial division), and would argue instead that truly advanced beings would be above such things.

But what do I know...?
 
Ryda421 said:
perhaps ants was a bad examples for free-thinking but that doesn't eliminate other creatures ability to free-think. perhaps we are so advanced in thinking that we neglect even a slight sign of free-thinking as nothing. it's not until recent history that humans have interacted with each globally (at least in the aspect which you are talking about). as a whole is kind of relative to the group. when an Egyptian pharaoh made a law, it only effect those who he governed. it didn't really effect the oriental nor the native americans.
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That's a possibility. As I said earlier, we don't have the ability to go inside minds and perceive thoughts so there's a lot of mystery in that subject. But, based on what we've observed, a majority of animals rely on instincts to survive.
 
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All of that is YOUR personal opinion and you are entitled to that, BUT unless you can show me how lions are a critical key in keeping our ecosystem stable for HUMAN survival then you aren't saying anything to me. How would people with my mentality be the ones wasting resources???? Aren't resources a critical key in our ecosytem? Wouldn't someone with my mindset be more protective of that?
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http://animals.mom.me/role-lion-ecosystem-5414.html Here you go

There's no way you are an educated individual with a mentality like that. I'm curious as to how old you are/what's your educational background...or what grade you went up to
 
The410Kid said:
All of that is YOUR personal opinion and you are entitled to that, BUT unless you can show me how lions are a critical key in keeping our ecosystem stable for HUMAN survival then you aren't saying anything to me. How would people with my mentality be the ones wasting resources???? Aren't resources a critical key in our ecosytem? Wouldn't someone with my mindset be more protective of that?
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after analyzing all your responses...you are exactly whats wrong with this world.
 
a blinkin said:
There are some that would point to mankind's proclivity to produce some of the greatest atrocities the world has ever seen (i.e. nuclear warfare, genocide, racial division), and would argue instead that truly advanced beings would be above such things.

But what do I know...?
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We must not be using 'advanced' in the same context. Pointing out what you did, one could argue we aren't very advanced of a species to be causing the horror and destruction those things bring. However, that's not how I'm arguing it. The fact we can take core elements from the earth and build and create technology like nuclear power or wireless internet is incredible. That's how I'm arguing 'advanced'.

Morally just is a completely different story.
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Define advanced and tell me which specie came up with the concept of advanced
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2. a   :   being beyond others in progress or idea

Other species advance to adapt. To survive. Humans advance themselves to achieve greater. To create and build and discover. We live for a greater purpose than to simply procreate. All any species wants is to eat, sleep, live, and reproduce. Their entire existence is to keep the species going. That's all they accomplish.

Yes, we create all the concepts for these things. We created the concept of money, language, self-worth, and much much more. It's the definitions WE created. You can tell how much further along we are than other species based off of what we've built. What other species is capable of doing what we are? Every species possesses one unique skill that allows them to survive in a world full of predators. Chameleons have camouflage, Lions have sharp teeth and claws, and humans have intelligence. We can outsmart any other animal. We've done it before and we will continue to do so until we're forced by a greater power (sun dies, we kill ourselves, aliens) takes over.
 
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Hanacheezy said:
@the410kid

you're making yourself look like an ***. Saying you don't care about animals that don't directly reflect you is extremely selfish and idiotic. You have a messed up mentality/view about the world. It's people with your same mentality that are ruining the world's ecosystem, wasting resources, etc.
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All of that is YOUR personal opinion and you are entitled to that, BUT unless you can show me how lions are a critical key in keeping our ecosystem stable for HUMAN survival then you aren't saying anything to me. How would people with my mentality be the ones wasting resources???? Aren't resources a critical key in our ecosytem? Wouldn't someone with my mindset be more protective of that?
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Damn son.

Do you not feel any connection to this universe? Or at least this planet? Maybe even just mother nature?

Contributing to the outright destruction of another species doesn't just rub you wrong in any sort of way?

People with your mindset are toxic bruh...
 
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The410Kid said:
 
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Hanacheezy said:
@the410kid


you're making yourself look like an ***. Saying you don't care about animals that don't directly reflect you is extremely selfish and idiotic. You have a messed up mentality/view about the world. It's people with your same mentality that are ruining the world's ecosystem, wasting resources, etc.
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All of that is YOUR personal opinion and you are entitled to that, BUT unless you can show me how lions are a critical key in keeping our ecosystem stable for HUMAN survival then you aren't saying anything to me. How would people with my mentality be the ones wasting resources???? Aren't resources a critical key in our ecosytem? Wouldn't someone with my mindset be more protective of that?
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Damn son.

Do you not feel any connection to this universe? Or at least this planet? Maybe even just mother nature?

Contributing to the outright destruction of another species doesn't just rub you wrong in any sort of way?

People with your mindset are toxic bruh...
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brazen ignorance :lol:
 
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