Dentist hunts and kills Cecil the lion

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The vitriol for Palmer even flowed from the governor's mansion.

"I'm just so disgusted with that man," said Gov. Mark Dayton. "Shoot any lion but lure a lion like that out of the preserve and shoot him, how could anybody think that's sport? Just appalling."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/30/us/walter-palmer-whereabouts/index.html

Nice to see the Guv'ner say something, although I don't agree with the 'shoot any lion' crap.
 
sckid20 said:
You think that there is a possibility that a dog can learn the language of another animal?
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Sure, why not? I don't know. So me saying, I don't know means I am open to the possibility of it happening or not being able to happen.

WE DON'T know. That is the point I am trying to get folks to see. We don't KNOW what the hell these animals brains are capable of doing. There is no possible way for us to go into the brain of another being and know exactly what they are thinking
 
DCAllAmerican said:
We don't know what they can do in their own social networks Freeze. We simply listen to their sounds and take it just for being that. Sounds. We don't KNOW what they do with eachother.

Can Humans speak and learn the language of another animal? No. So why are we praised for being able to communicate with EACH OTHER? 

How do we know a domesticated dog isn't able to communicate and learn the "language" (another HUMAN concept) of other animals.

So again, ANYTHING that yall bring up to judge "intelligence" has been a human created concept.
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how they communicate with us is the only way we can measure their intelligence. And based on their capabilities we observe, they are far below our intelligence level. There's no point in repeating "we can only measure them in through our means", that's the only way we know how to measure and based how advanced humanity is compared to other animals, I say our means for measuring intelligence is justified. Unless you can read animals, you don't have a viable argument.
 
DCAllAmerican said:
 
We don't know WHAT dogs think about Olympus. Why can't you acknowledge that fact?
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Neither do they. They have no internal dialogue. They don't process thoughts on the complexity level that we do. We don't need telepathy to observe how they behave and they behave on a level of think much less complex than what they are.
DCAllAmerican said:
 
We don't know what they can do in their own social networks Freeze. We simply listen to their sounds and take it just for being that. Sounds. We don't KNOW what they do with eachother.

Can Humans speak and learn the language of another animal? No. So why are we praised for being able to communicate with EACH OTHER? 

How do we know a domesticated dog isn't able to communicate and learn the "language" (another HUMAN concept) of other animals.

So again, ANYTHING that yall bring up to judge "intelligence" has been a human created concept.
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You're trying to say each animal has a level of communication unique to it's own species and we should accept that not one language is above another because they are so inherently unique. Right? Okay, I understand that. However, their language does not operate on the complexity of ours. They know how to communicate, hunger, sadness, excitement, anger...basic emotions. Those emotions incite a reaction from it's peers based on a set of instinctual reactions that's been embedded in them for years.

Dog growls at other dog. Growl conveys anger/animosity. Other dog picks this up and is faced with fight or flight and depending on that specific dog, the reaction will vary. This logic follows suit with other emotions.

I don't need to be a dog to see their thought processes laid out in their actions. You can see it in humans as well. It's why we can tell if a couple is angry or happy or sad when they're out in public based on body language and tone of voice even if they speak a different language.
 
No, I am saying that we have NO IDEA, only guesses, as to the communication systems of animals. So since WE (humans) don't understand, it must not exist. That is what we are taught and led to believe.
 
DCAllAmerican said:
No, I am saying that we have NO IDEA, only guesses, as to the communication systems of animals. So since WE (humans) don't understand, it must not exist. That is what we are taught and led to believe.
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Yea there are a lot communication we still don't know or don't grasp 100%, but based on the actions of animals, we can observe what they do and why they do it.
 
Chopper said:
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The vitriol for Palmer even flowed from the governor's mansion.



"I'm just so disgusted with that man," said Gov. Mark Dayton. "Shoot any lion but lure a lion like that out of the preserve and shoot him, how could anybody think that's sport? Just appalling."



http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/30/us/walter-palmer-whereabouts/index.html



Nice to see the Guv'ner say something, although I don't agree with the 'shoot any lion' crap.
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Yeah it's cool that he spoke out against it but "shoot any lion"? :lol: that mf still got the wrong mentality
 
ksteezy said:
 
sea manup said:
we destroyed the hostile environment and created a new environment build for our living comfort

animals are fighting over who is the alpha in an environment and we can come wipe everything off the map in a week 
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This arrogance is why we kill ourselves, the idea that we are at the top and can just take everything and anything, guarantee in the next of times we won't be the last standing species on this earth
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its not arrogance, its fact

exploiting this advantage would be arrogance

we are the most powerful species on earth and unfortunately that means we are probably going to destroy the earth

as uncle ben once said "with great power comes great responsibility" and humans have proven to be hella irresponsible 
 
doublemesh96 said:
Chopper said:
On original topic - 


The vitriol for Palmer even flowed from the governor's mansion.



"I'm just so disgusted with that man," said Gov. Mark Dayton. "Shoot any lion but lure a lion like that out of the preserve and shoot him, how could anybody think that's sport? Just appalling."



http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/30/us/walter-palmer-whereabouts/index.html



Nice to see the Guv'ner say something, although I don't agree with the 'shoot any lion' crap.
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Yeah it's cool that he spoke out against it but "shoot any lion"? :lol: that mf still got the wrong mentality
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word life lmaoo. operation was a success, but the patient died.
 
I'm suprised to see so many people saying we arent the smartest/most intelligent beings on this planet...thought that was fairly common knowledge. Orca whales are def #2

I also think we are one of the best at surviving. You can't take away our ability to use weapons/build shelter because that is exaclty what we use to survive.

Survival is by any means...our bodies evolved to deal with excessive hemorrhage from being attacked, dehydration, lack of food, hypothermia, etc. the list goes on and on and probably one of the most important functions of our body in dealing with acidosis (excessive hydrogen atoms) which will kill you fairly quickly. Evolution is a helluva phenomenon

Of course now many humans dont have great survival skills because we don't need them and haven't needed them for the past few hundred years

back to the topic I still am disgusted by the dude that killed the lion and disgusted by people that hunt for sport in general
 
:lol: Yo now reading it again, Im wondering if he's saying to shoot any lion is a disgrace, but to lure one out like they did is incomprehensible...?
 
Why didnt his wife just tell him he had the biggest meat in the world..... would have stopped this overcompensating hunt...... just saying
 
How you just gonna shoot something as cool as a lion? These damn game hunters need to go shoot the wild boars in Texas
 
This guy has got to go! He is not welcomed on earth, somebody lure his *** out and pop a couple slugs in him.
 
bruh I happened to find a post about Cecil and the clown of a hunter.


some pictures.



I will just never understand big game hunting. These animals are so amazing. Why would anyone want to kill them for recreation. Clearly 'some men just want to watch the world burn'


View media item 1652251Cecil was lured out of the park boundary by the smell of meat.

View media item 1652252According to Johnny Rodrigues, head of the Zimbabwe Conservation Task Force, Palmer and his guide went hunting at night with a spotlight and spotted Cecil. "They tied a dead animal to their vehicle to lure Cecil out of the park, and they scented an area about half a kilometer from the park," Rodrigues said in an interview with CNN.

View media item 1652253Palmer shot Cecil with a bow, but failed to kill him outright. He tracked Cecil for 40 hours before finding him, then killed him with a gun.

View media item 1652254Cecil had been studied by a group at Oxford University since 2008. When the hunters saw Cecil's GPS tracker after they killed him, they tried to destroy it. Palmer then skinned and beheaded Cecil. The lion's head hasn't been found yet.



How can anyone want to kill this creature?
View media item 1652255According to a 2009 study by the International Union for the Conservation of Nature, trophy hunters killed around 600 lions a year.



b.a.n.

View media item 1652256Walter Palmer (at left) poses with a lion he killed on an earlier hunting trip. He released a statement giving his version of how Cecil was killed:

"I had no idea that the lion I took was a known, local favorite, was collared and part of a study until the end of the hunt. I relied on the expertise of my local professional guides to ensure a legal hunt. ... Again, I deeply regret that my pursuit of an activity I love and practice responsibly and legally resulted in the taking of this lion. That was never my intention."

View media item 1652257Palmer paid thousands of dollars for the right to hunt this bighorn sheep.



ARE YOU ******* SERIOUS B.
View media item 1652258A mature rhinoceros Palmer killed on an earlier hunt. The two Zimbabwean men who assisted Palmer have appeared in court on poaching charges. Palmer is still being sought.
 
doublemesh96 said:
Animals kill for defensive purposes, for food, to protect territory, or fighting over a mate to procure their existence as a species. An animal will never kill unnecessarily.

A human being is the only living thing that will kill just for the **** of it.
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This seems excessive killing and not just killing for food:



This dentist is a **** though. One of those things my brain simply cannot begin to comprehend: How killing an animal with a weapon for fun gives someone any form of satisfaction whatsoever. To me, they're just as sick as pyromaniacs who'll burn a house down and watch the huge flames blazing feeling all mighty and ****. They kill an innocent animal and take pictures next to its corpse smiling while probably thinking in sick satisfaction "Look how big this animal is and it was ME who killed it!" Sick bastards, as if anyone who is strong enough to pull a trigger couldn't have done the same.
 
My dentist has a bunch of animal mounts in his office. No big game animals, but some exotic stuff...I think. I don't really look at them.
 
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 Not only did his hunt kill a local celebrity at the park, but, according to the Zimbabwean Tourism Authority, the hunt was illegal, and a criminal investigation is currently under way. Cecil’s death will affect more than just him and his fans. Now that Cecil is gone, other male lions will probably kill off the 24 cubs that he had left with his pride to ensure that their own bloodlines live on instead.
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Jesus christ I forgot Lions did that

http://www.boredpanda.com/cecil-lion-illegal-hunting-internet-backlash-walter-palmer-zimbabwe/
 
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