MODS PLEASE LOCK | The Oakland Raiders 2015 Season Thread: Week 17 @ Kansas City / 7-8

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Mack is supposedly 270 now what the hell is that guy next to him
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Listed at 6-4 300
 
I read that Mack is moving at a "different speed" than everyone else at camp. I forgot where I read that, but that sounds exciting.
 
I read that Mack is moving at a "different speed" than everyone else at camp. I forgot where I read that, but that sounds exciting.
Read that bout 3 posts up playboy 
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Sio Moore back at practice today. Like most, I'm pretty excited to see what this team can do...I honestly think we can surprise a lot of people. My only concern with this team is our lack of depth at CB, don't think we have a legit DB to cover a #1 WR on a playoff contending team. Hopefully our front 7 of the D can make up for that.
 
I read that Mack is moving at a "different speed" than everyone else at camp. I forgot where I read that, but that sounds exciting.
Read that bout 3 posts up playboy :lol:

Sio Moore back at practice today. Like most, I'm pretty excited to see what this team can do...I honestly think we can surprise a lot of people. My only concern with this team is our lack of depth at CB, don't think we have a legit DB to cover a #1 WR on a playoff contending team. Hopefully our front 7 of the D can make up for that.

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I should have checked my own ****.

What's most worrisome about the DB play is that we're doubling down on the run stuffing, so we're asking teams to throw on us. What can we hope from our young CBs, an older but still effective Charles Woodson and average-ish Nate Allen? The staff has to believe it can completely change our pass rush from last season to give us a chance. I don't think that's going to happen.
 
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Raiders’ Derek Carr eager to lead way forward
By Vic Tafur
August 1, 2015


Derek Carr was the Raiders’ quarterback of the future at this time last year, and the future came in the blink of an eye. He beat out veteran Matt Schaub for the top spot on the depth chart in the preseason and wound up starting all 16 games. Now, a couple of days into his second training camp, Carr is feeling the eyes on him as the Raiders try to turn things around.

“It’s just a totally different situation,” Carr said. “It’s, ‘You’re the guy now.’”

And he is digging it.

“It’s kind of nice knowing that, because now I can really be myself, whereas when it was Schaub’s team, there are certain things,” Carr said. “You can’t step on his toes. You don’t want to get in the way. You want to let him do his thing.”

That didn’t work out so well for the Raiders, due to Schaub’s loss of confidence and arm strength, and he quickly took a back seat to the strong-armed Carr, the team’s second-round draft pick. Carr lost his first 10 starts but finished strong, totaling the second-most completions (348) and fifth-most passing touchdowns (21) for a rookie in NFL history.

With 12 interceptions he made history, posting the lowest total among the 12 quarterbacks all-time who attempted at least 450 passes in their rookie year.

Carr is ready to take the next step, and his teammates are ready to follow.

“You’ve done it before, you’ve seen it and you can hit the ground running a lot faster,” he said. “It’s not seeing new coverage for the first time or seeing a new blitz for the first time. You go out and just play.”

Carr says this despite having had to learn a new offense since head coach Jack Del Rio and offensive coordinator Bill Musgrave were hired.

“He’s a super bright guy,” Del Rio said. “To have the grasp of the offense the way he does, early, it’s huge. And you can only do that through him spending extra time on his own.”

Musgrave, Minnesota’s offensive coordinator in 2011-13, will mix his run-heavy philosophy from his Vikings days with some up-tempo stuff he picked up in Philadelphia, where he was the quarterbacks coach last year. He’ll also try to spread the field for some quick-hitting plays that Carr succeeded with at Fresno State.

“We really do everything,” Carr said. “There are so many things and coach Musgrave is so smart and he’s done such a good job of I guess sitting in his little lab and just creating ways to get our guys the football. It’s my job not to screw it up. We’re going to be able to do a lot of things, that way hopefully teams can’t really get a bead on us.”

Carr worked hard in the offseason and has better targets in new receivers Amari Cooper and Michael Crabtree. And Carr exudes confidence, teammates say.

“He’s got a different swagger about him this year,” left tackle Donald Penn said. “He led us very well last year, and he keeps everybody loose, and that will only get better. He has a very good grasp of the new offense, and for it to be new and everybody else still learning it, that’s very impressive.

“He’s grown, that’s obvious, and I think the other players are very excited to see that growth once we play games for real again.”

Briefly: Outside linebacker Sio Moore, who had offseason hip surgery, practiced after missing the first day of camp. He moved around well, and is ready to compete with newcomer Malcolm Smith and Ray-Ray Armstrong for a starting job. “There’s no excuse to be behind,” he said. “You don’t put yourself behind. You put yourself ahead.” … Del Rio said the other five players who have been out — running back Trent Richardson, receiver Rod Streater, rookie tight end Clive Walford, kick returner Trindon Holliday and defensive tackle Stacy McGee — are all day to day.

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Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur 2h2 hours ago

More whispers

Vic Tafur retweeted Ian Rapoport

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet
Asked about Trent Richardson’s chances of making #Raiders: 50%, I’m told. Besides Latavius Murray, competition with Roy Helu & Michael Dyer

Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur 35m35 minutes ago
Still no sign of Walford, Richardson or Streater. Butler back after missing a day.

Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur 25m25 minutes ago
DJ Hayden getting some 1st-team reps, as McGill watches ... Everything at camp so far points to Latavius Murray being No. 1 RB, & good one

Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur 18m18 minutes ago
Think only starting jobs up for grabs on defense are CB (McGill/Hayden) and OLB (Armstrong/Moore). #Raiders

Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur 15m15 minutes ago
Otherwise (left to right) you have Mack, Williams, Ellis, Tuck; Smith, Lofton; Woodson, Allen and Currie ... (w/ Mack moving around)

Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur 13m13 minutes ago

Edwards can play DE if Mack is at OLB, and DT as well Vic Tafur added,
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@VicTafur What about Mario Edwards and other d-linemen?
 
- Tafur said Cooper hasn't made any spectacular plays yet, but he is pretty consistent and just moves the chains.

- As mentioned above, Dyer seems to be taking full advantage of Trent Richardson being out. Richardson may be on the outside looking in if Dyer continues to impress.

- Mychael Rivera apparently had a good day.

- NFL Network was in Napa, they got interviews and videos on NFL.com

- Raiders instagram account showed a clip of Cooper killin McGill with some beautiful route running. 
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- Tafur also mentioned the vibe is much more optimistic at this camp than in years past, this team is starting to believe.

- JDR mentioned the team will pick 8 veterans to select as kind of "captains". Captains will report to JDR weekly to gauge the team and how they're feeling.
 
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I don't know how to embed vines here but Brice Butler toasted DJ and had a crazy one hander yesterday too.
 
I don't know how to embed vines here but Brice Butler toasted DJ and had a crazy one hander yesterday too.
I thought DJ had some decent coverage on the play...can't defend a Odell Beckham Jr type catch 
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GM Reggie McKenzie optimistic about Raiders

By Vic Tafur

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August 3, 2015


Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie is so excited about this year’s team that he is talking like a teenager.

“The energy is off the chain,” he said Monday.

McKenzie was asked what is different at this year’s training camp, as opposed to his first three building the team.

“You can’t tell? It’s obvious,” he said. “I think we’re big and strong. I think we’re fast. I like the way the players are responding to the coaches. ... The players are flying around.”

McKenzie made some mistakes and the Raiders lost 37 of 48 games his first three seasons, but says he now has the team where he “is excited to see every practice” at training camp at the Napa Valley Marriott.

There’s the new coaching staff, the foundation of good young players, and the sense that there is some real and meaningful competition at each roster spot. On the two 4-12 teams and last year’s 3-13 edition, the last few spots were gift-wrapped and given because they had to be.

“I knew I had to take some lumps,” McKenzie said. “To see it come like the way I had planned it from building the roster and getting the team together, it’s the best I’ve felt going into Napa and training camp since I’ve been here.

“I’m anxiously waiting for preseason games now. I want to see how they jell and come together. I feel pretty good about this team. Really good.”

After 135 players — and five starting quarterbacks — the past three years, Oakland finally seems to have some positive mojo and momentum.

“I can’t say enough good things about Derek,” McKenzie said about quarterback Derek Carr.

“He’s got all the intangibles to go along with his talent level,” McKenzie said. “You’re talking about a sophomore player; it’s not like he’s a 10-year vet. It’s Year 2 and two systems. I don’t want to put all the pressure on him, but we’re looking for big things. We’re excited about his whole game, from a mental standpoint and physically.”

McKenzie also thinks running back Latavius Murray is set to have a big year.

“He can do it all,” McKenzie said.

In fact, McKenzie said the Raiders are better at every spot on the roster.

To, which one reporter asked, ‘Even at cornerback?”

Oakland did not bring back Tarell Brown and Carlos Rogers. It’s going with second-year players TJ Carrie and Keith McGill and third-year veteran DJ Hayden.

“We’re better, the talent level is better,” McKenzie said. “Now, what we lack is experience. We played those guys last year. They were experienced players, been there and done it. But as far as talent, we feel pretty good about our talent.”

McKenzie also provided an intriguing nugget about former running back and former cornerback Taiwan Jones’ move back to running back.

“It was a no-brainer,” McKenzie said. “Especially with the way (new offensive coordinator) Bill Musgrave is going to use him.”

Jones has world-class speed, and Musgrave did some creative things with where he lined up Percy Harvin while he was in Minnesota.
 
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With pads on, Raiders ready to hit each other

By Vic Tafur August 2, 2015 Updated: August 2, 2015 9:43pm


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Oakland Raiders quarterback Derek Carr, left, hands off the ball to Marcel Reece, right, during their football training camp Friday, July 31, 2015, in Napa, Calif. (AP Photo/Eric Risberg) Photo: Eric Risberg, Associated Press Photo: Eric Risberg, Associated Press Oakland Raiders quarterback Derek Carr, left, hands off the ball to Marcel Reece, right, during their football training camp Friday, July 31, 2015, in Napa, Calif. (AP Photo/Eric Risberg)

Raiders defensive tackle Dan Williams could smell it in the air as early as Saturday’s practice.

“It started getting chippy,” he said. “Everybody knows what’s coming. Everybody’s eager to hit, the players and the fans. The intensity goes way up.”

Yes, Sunday afternoon’s practice was the unofficial start of training camp, as Oakland players put on the pads for the first time this season and respectfully slammed their teammates.

“You get that first hit in and it’s all downhill,” linebacker Khalil Mack said.

It wasn’t an especially violent practice, and no hard feelings were expressed outwardly except for a near-skirmish between running back George Atkinson III and safety Jonathan Dowling.

First-year head coach Jack Del Rio didn’t turn the troops loose on each other, as he is more concerned that everybody is tackling correctly. It’s one of the things that jumped out to him watching video of last year’s 3-13 team.

“I think as a group, we need to tackle better,” he said. “We’ve got a new system to learn, so make sure that you understand where you belong and arrive with an attitude.”

And NFL teams, with so much concern about player safety, don’t get as much time practicing in pads as they did when Del Rio and defensive coordinator Ken Norton Jr. were players.

“The amount of contact we have in today’s NFL is limited, so we have to be very purposeful when we are in pads that we get the work we need and that we prepare ourselves fundamentally to be able to do the blocking and tackling that’s necessary to be a good football team,” Del Rio said.

So, obviously, Day 1 was a little rough.

“As coaches, you know what you want it to look (like) in the end,” Del Rio said. “We’re just focused on teaching and growing and developing and all those things. Energy was good, but we’re a long way from being clean and still have work to do.”

Del Rio did say he looked forward to watching video Sunday night of the offensive line’s matchups with the defensive line. And though former 49ers receiver Michael Crabtree was a standout, Del Rio also singled out 5-foot-9, 218-pound running back Michael Dyer.

The Auburn alum had two long runs and caught a pass in the scrimmages, and also held up well in the blocking drill. He is taking advantage of the extra reps he is getting with free-agent signee Trent Richardson out for a third day with an illness.

“Michael’s done a nice job of developing,” Del Rio said. “From what we saw in the spring until now, he seems more comfortable, accountable and dependable on offense and special teams. Every now and then, he’ll pop through a hole and turn on the speed. He’s off to a nice start.”

As far as Richardson, Del Rio said the reports of his demise might be premature. Del Rio said the former Browns and Colts bust worked hard to get in shape before training camp.

“Trent came here very close to the weight we requested, which was a very ambitious goal to get to,” Del Rio said. “He’s down in the low 220s. That’s what we asked of him, and that’s where he was as a player at ’Bama.

“I believe that, with Trent committing himself like that and getting in that type of shape, that he’ll have a chance to come out here and show what he’s really capable of.”

Receiver Brice Butler, meanwhile, returned after sitting out Saturday. Receiver Rod Streater, tight end Clive Walford, kick returner Trindon Holliday and defensive tackle Stacy McGee were still out.
 
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Went yesterday. finally was able to sit in the shade for once during a training camp. Everything looked good. TJ Carrie took a TD away from Crabs in the back corner of the end zone on a fade route right in front of us.

Mack was working with the d-lineman exclusively.

Was able to get C-Wood, Carr, Jano, Donald Penn, Austin Howard, Gabe Jackson and the best of all? Khalif Barnes...Only guy I took a pic with. I told him by friend wouldn't believe me that I got khalif Barnes autograph.. He's a cool dude though...


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