Man found decomposing in car had 1,200 guns, 7 tons of ammo, & 230k in cash found at home. Claimed t

FlyNY said:
1200 Guns
7000 clips?

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Damn wish I would have found him first.

I would grabbed the money and left his *** there stankin not saying a word...
 
fastcash said:
Where's #NTDetetives
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Hi.

Dude was agun trafficker for the U.S. Government, likely working under Operation Fast & Furious and other gunwalking projects. How do I know this? I don't, but I can connect dots. Let's start with dude's past. His name was Jeffrey Alan Nash. Not too much is known about his early years, but we do know that he was a student at UCLA at one point in time during the 1980s. UCLA is a huge recruiting school for the CIA and other agencies. Someone you may have heard of named Michael Ruppert was targeted for recruitment by the CIA during his time at UCLA. But, I digress:

His mother was a pianist and his father was a microbiologist who owned a medical laboratory, said Anderson, who said she had known Lash for at least 25 years. For a while it appeared that Lash would follow in his father’s footsteps. In the 1980s, he told his parents he was attending UCLA and studying to become a scientist. But he dropped out and never returned, she said. UCLA spokesman Ricardo Vasquez said Lash was a student at one point but said he could not release details about his enrollment because Lash had requested that his records remain private.
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His father worked as a microbiologist, so its safe to say that the guy had a stable upbringing and was afforded things like a decent education, seeing as was accepted by UCLA and attended school there, at least for a little while. Following his dropping out, he kind of just falls of the map, so to speak. His family loses contact with him, and he doesn't even attend his father's funeral. Suddenly, he is found dead, leaving behind a soon to be wife, thousands of guns, and literally tons of ammo. Lets look at some od the details surrounding his death:

Identified by an attorney for his fiancée as Jeffrey Alan Lash, 60, the man apparently acted secretively for years, never explaining to those around him exactly what he did for a living. When he died in early July after collapsing in a Santa Monica grocery store parking lot, Lash refused to go to a hospital or let anyone call 911, celebrity defense attorney Harlan Braun said in an interview with KTLA Wednesday evening. Braun represents Lash’s fiancée, Catherine Nebron, who fled to Oregon with an employee after leaving Lash’s body parked in an SUV outside her home in the Palisades Highlands development of upscale Pacific Palisades. The disappearance of that employee, 39-year-old Dawn VadBunker, in turn prompted a missing person investigation from Oxnard police. VadBunker was found safe in Oregon, but has not contacted her family, her mother said.
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This is where the story gets a little weird. If you think details about Mr. Nash are scarce, try looking up his finace, Catherine Nebron. Probably didn't find much, huh? You'll find her dad though, which is another story for another time. All that seems to be known about her revolves around her dealings in property (for my friends who know how to research real estate records, just take a gander and be amazed.) She was unaware about the TONS of ammo and guns found in their 2 bedroom condo...I'll repeat that again, she claims to be unaware of the thousands of guns Lash had in his possession, despite sharing a 2 bedroom condo. Presumably busy with her company, and running off to Oregon with coworkers after leaving her soon to be husband's body in a car. Dawn Marie VadBunker, the coworker Nebron ran off with, is referenced in the quote above. She has not been seen or talked to since Lash died. She supposedly wrote a letter to her parents. No calls. No texts. What's not referenced is that above article is that both VadBunker and Nebron were in the car when Lash died:

The women were with Lash when he died on July 4 in his SUV in the parking lot of the grocery store, Curry said. There was a plan in place if Lash should die. The women were supposed to leave Lash’s body for government agents to pick up and then leave town themselves. That was exactly what the two women did, according to Nebron’s attorney, Harlan Braun. The women parked the SUV, with Lash’s body inside, outside Nebron’s Pacific Palisades condo and went to Oregon without telling anyone, including VadBunker’s parents, who soon reported their daughter missing. Police located Lash’s body and the 1,200-plus firearms, tons of ammunition and $230,000 in cash he was storing in Nebron’s condo.
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Hard to keep up with all your man's ammo wheb you presumably have a booming real estate business to run, though. What's not mentioned in that article is that there was a third person present when Lash died, who happened to be a doctor.

"The friend, a doctor who did not want to be named, told the Palisadian Post newspaper he spent 90 minutes trying to revive Lash in the passenger seat of an SUV outside his house on the night he died as Nebron-Gorin was “wailing and grieving”."
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How about Nebron's attorney, who has been nice enough to do all this work for Ms. Nebron while she's been in Oregon? No other than Harland Braun. Not much needs to be said about the guy after you read about some of his most well known cases. So, lets recount:


  • Lash and his finance Nebron had been together for 17 years, and shared a 2 bedroom condo together. Nebron was unaware of the thousands of guns and pounds of ammo in Lash's possession.
  • Nebron andthree others were in the car when Lash died. The police have already established that no foul play was involved, having no reasonable (public) explanation for the guns, money, or rumors of Jeffrey Lash or Bob Smith (one Lash's other aliases. Lash's name is likely an alias.
  • Before an investigation into the guns or cause of death, law enforcement were able to determine that none of Lash's guns were illegal or used for illegal things. They have also vehemently denied that he worked for any government agency, even before his dental records were checked.

This story is going everywhere and nowhere extremely fast. My theory is that both Lash and Nebron had been working for the government, with Lash running guns and Nebron setting up safe houses and meeting spots on both sides of the border. From there, I'm not sure. I think the alien thing was thrown in to cause confusion and make people walk away from the story without asking the important questions, mainly: 1. Where were the guns and money from? Where were they going to? 2. Who was Lash, really? How did he and Nebron work together, and for which agencies? 3. Where is Dawn Marie, and can she explain what really happened?
 
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Lol.

Fast and furious wasn't a cia operation

And fast and furious has already been ended for years. There is no gunrunning op going on.

Trying to connect dude to government is like connecting pookie from 82nd to the Iran contra affair.
 
Probably selling the guns, but there are more questions than answers.  If he was a spy it would be mostly handguns not huge *** rifles not very secretive walking around with those.
 
GWAP said:
Lol.

Fast and furious wasn't a cia operation

And fast and furious has already been ended for years. There is no gunrunning op going on.

Trying to connect dude to government is like connecting pookie from 82nd to the Iran contra affair.
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No, it was an ATF operation. But the CIA knew about it, and presumably helped coordinate, just like they did with the Iran-Contra affair. You're silly if you think those operations aren't still running in some way, shape, or form.

Its not at all like trying to connect a no name to major players. Dude had 6.5 tons of ammo. Thousands of guns. Millions of dollars in assets. What are you even saying?
 
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Probably selling the guns, but there are more questions than answers.  If he was a spy it would be mostly handguns not huge *** rifles not very secretive walking around with those.
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Not necessarily. You can take them apart and depending on the barrel length it can fit in a backpack
 
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GWAP said:
Lol.

Fast and furious wasn't a cia operation

And fast and furious has already been ended for years. There is no gunrunning op going on.

Trying to connect dude to government is like connecting pookie from 82nd to the Iran contra affair.
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No, it was an ATF operation. But the CIA knew about it, and presumably helped coordinate, just like they did with the Iran-Contra affair. You're silly if you think those operations aren't still running in some way, shape, or form.

Its not at all like trying to connect a no name to major players. Dude had 6.5 tons of ammo. Thousands of guns. Millions of dollars in assets. What are you even saying?
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his operation was unprofessional.

Stashing the inventory at a residence connected to him?

Buying all the weapons at retail?

Bruh, the cia knows about every operation going on in any agency. Doesn't mean they are involved in them. Fast and furious wasn't even connected to anything other than the atf bureaucracy trying to find a way to make themselves look good. I could understand if you had any evidence of an ulterior motive like Iran contra. But you presented no reasoning why the cia would be buying guns at retail and sending them to Mexico.

I mean. The cia could probably move a mass amount of weaponry from Central America to Mexico of the cost and less scrutiny. Easier to hide links that way than if a random fat guy dies in his explorer with his own garage full of weapons bought at retail.

I mean. Dude had mostly long rifles that weren't even automatic due to the regulations and documentation that full autos require. CIA could have pushed a hundred thousand AKs from Central America without breaking a sweat.

Ya theory doesn't add up
 
GWAP said:
his operation was unprofessional.

Stashing the inventory at a residence connected to him?

Buying all the weapons at retail?

Bruh, the cia knows about every operation going on in any agency. Doesn't mean they are involved in them. Fast and furious wasn't even connected to anything other than the atf bureaucracy trying to find a way to make themselves look good. I could understand if you had any evidence of an ulterior motive like Iran contra. But you presented no reasoning why the cia would be buying guns at retail and sending them to Mexico.

I mean. The cia could probably move a mass amount of weaponry from Central America to Mexico of the cost and less scrutiny. Easier to hide links that way than if a random fat guy dies in his explorer with his own garage full of weapons bought at retail.

I mean. Dude had mostly long rifles that weren't even automatic due to the regulations and documentation that full autos require. CIA could have pushed a hundred thousand AKs from Central America without breaking a sweat.

Ya theory doesn't add up
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His name does not appear on any paperwork for the condo, only his girlfriend, who owns that and several other properties around Cali. Paying inflated prices (ie retail) is great for laundering money, which may need laundering for any multitude of purposes.

Fast & Furious was known outside of the ATF before it was in motion, just google about the Fast & Furious probe if you're interested, people have been calling for it to be reopened. ATF was just the vehicle.

How do you know what kind of guns he had? Has there been an inventory posted? How do you know so much about the CIA's ability to covertly distribute weapons internationally, and how do you know Lash wasn't doing exactly that for the CIA?

You are great at detracting and distracting, i will give you that :lol:
 
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GWAP said:
his operation was unprofessional.

Stashing the inventory at a residence connected to him?

Buying all the weapons at retail?

Bruh, the cia knows about every operation going on in any agency. Doesn't mean they are involved in them. Fast and furious wasn't even connected to anything other than the atf bureaucracy trying to find a way to make themselves look good. I could understand if you had any evidence of an ulterior motive like Iran contra. But you presented no reasoning why the cia would be buying guns at retail and sending them to Mexico.

I mean. The cia could probably move a mass amount of weaponry from Central America to Mexico of the cost and less scrutiny. Easier to hide links that way than if a random fat guy dies in his explorer with his own garage full of weapons bought at retail.

I mean. Dude had mostly long rifles that weren't even automatic due to the regulations and documentation that full autos require. CIA could have pushed a hundred thousand AKs from Central America without breaking a sweat.

Ya theory doesn't add up
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His name does not appear on any paperwork for the condo, only his girlfriend, who owns that and several other properties around Cali. Paying inflated prices (ie retail) is great for laundering money, which may need laundering for any multitude of purposes.

Fast & Furious was known outside of the ATF before it was in motion, just google about the Fast & Furious probe if you're interested, people have been calling for it to be reopened. ATF was just the vehicle.

How do you know what kind of guns he had? Has there been an inventory posted? How do you know so much about the CIA's ability to covertly distribute weapons internationally, and how do you know Lash wasn't doing exactly that for the CIA?

You are great at detracting and distracting, i will give you that :lol:
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1. So having a massive amount of weaponry at a residence under your girlfriends name means those weapons are at a residence not connected to you? Completely unprofessional lol. Broke dope boy logic right there.

The type of guns he had are visible in pictures of the main stash along with the various reports of the whole situation. You should spend more time researching the available info.

Paying inflated prices is only used in laundering when the retailer is part of the operation. So you're saying that the gun retailers are part of a cia op? Any proof on that?

The lack of cohesive logic is appalling.
 
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GWAP said:
So having a massive amount of weaponry at a residence under your girlfriends name means those weapons are at a residence not connected to you? Completely unprofessional lol. Broke dope boy logic right there.

The type of guns he had are visible in pictures of the main stash along with the various reports of the whole situation. You should spend more time researching the available info.

Paying inflated prices is only used in laundering when the retailer is part of the operation. So you're saying that the gun retailers are part of a cia op? Any proof on that?

The lack of cohesive logic is appalling.
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If you spent some time practicing what you preach, you'd know that the condo in question was not owned by Lash's girlfriend directly, but by her company, which owns property across Ventura County. Its not really dope boy logic when your girl not only rents out properties regularly, but does the same with cars and garages across large part of a region. I even posted a story with a reference to her in my first post. Notice how it names just one street:

Catherine Nebron and her husband, Phillip Gorin, of Los Angeles, who own 14 storefronts along East Main Street, were among those who objected to the plan.
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Please post some of the pics from the crime scene detailing the guns, and explain how those pictures can be used to reasonably describe the rest of the thousands of items in weaponry found. Don't worry, I'll wait. Please read how many guns were found again, and tell me how the pictures you saw describe the rest of them.

Actually, yes. Gun shops were connected to Operation Fast and Furious. You'd know that if you did any research into it at all. This story mentions one of many. http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-garland-gun-20150801-story.html

I can't tell if you're a shill, a really bad troll, or if you just like arguing for the sake of arguing. Either way, just stop fam.
 
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1. Name the shops that this guy bought from. Just because shops were setup as a front for fast and furious does not mean every gun shop is part of a cia plan. If you imply something have proof to back it up. There have been corrupt cops before, doesn't mean you can imply corruption without at least having circumstantial evidence in the situation you are referring to.

2. Calling me a "shill" next your going to say "wake up sheeple". Thinking your post deserves the attention of a CIA agent is delusional.

3. A company that is run by his girlfriend still connects dude to the weapons. Lol. Obviously. What kind of CIA operative recruited out of ucla would think like you. I mean, there's protocol for ops like this. What kind of logic is this. Unprofessional.

4. I'll look up the photos and post when I'm not on Mobile. So yes, you'll have to wait.

Calling me a shill.... The Internet has given too much info to smart dumb ****** I swear.
 
1. No, I'm saying that its a possibility that the gun stores Lash used were connected. You acted as if it was unheard of for a gun store to be used as a part of an operation, I posted proof of what you requested, and now you're saying that the example can't be used. :rofl: That shop used in F&F wasn't even a front, it was a legitimate business that did illegal sales if I remember correctly. You mean the thousands of guns, tons of ammo, and other weaponry that was ALL purchased at retail doesn't scream supicious? Hell, car companies are starting to do 2-1 lease specials. You mean there isn't an ammo shop that'll give you a freebie aftee buying 6 tons of ammo?

2. You're ridiculous. I never say anything remotely close to that, :lol:. And shills aren't the agents. They're the poorly paid keyboard warriors who make it their job to poke holes in stories and try to distract people from the topic at hand. Looking at your post history, you tend to do that a lot. Especially with stories like these.

3. I never said that it was my idea...i don't think like that. Why are you trying to make me out to be an idiot or the bad guy? What is YOUR theory on it? All I know is that dude stored stuff there, and seems to have the pedigree, weaponry, and assets that make sense for an agent or contractor of the agencies he claimed to work for.

4. :lol:

For someone who thinks so highly of himself, you sure do like spending time trying to attack the character of others rather than trying to use facts and evidence to prove your points. If you're so smart and knowledgable, where are the links to your evidence? Facts that back up your claims? I'll wait.
 
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GWAP said:
1. Name the shops that this guy bought from. Just because shops were setup as a front for fast and furious does not mean every gun shop is part of a cia plan. If you imply something have proof to back it up. There have been corrupt cops before, doesn't mean you can imply corruption without at least having circumstantial evidence in the situation you are referring to.

2. Calling me a "shill" next your going to say "wake up sheeple". Thinking your post deserves the attention of a CIA agent is delusional.

3. A company that is run by his girlfriend still connects dude to the weapons. Lol. Obviously. What kind of CIA operative recruited out of ucla would think like you. I mean, there's protocol for ops like this. What kind of logic is this. Unprofessional.

4. I'll look up the photos and post when I'm not on Mobile. So yes, you'll have to wait.

Calling me a shill.... The Internet has given too much info to smart dumb ****** I swear.
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1. No, I'm saying that its a possibility that the gun stores Lash used were connected. You acted as if it was unheard of for a gun store to be used as a part of an operation, I posted proof of what you requested, and now you're saying that the example can't be used. :rofl: That shop used in F&F wasn't even a front, it was a legitimate business that did illegal sales if I remember correctly. You mean the thousands of guns, tons of ammo, and other weaponry that was ALL purchased at retail doesn't scream supicious? Hell, car companies are starting to do 2-1 lease specials. You mean there isn't an ammo shop that'll give you a freebie aftee buying 6 tons of ammo?

2. You're ridiculous. I never say anything remotely close to that, :lol:. And shills aren't the agents. They're the poorly paid keyboard warriors who make it their job to poke holes in stories and try to distract people from the topic at hand. Looking at your post history, you tend to do that a lot. Especially with stories like these.

3. I never said that it was my idea...i don't think like that. Why are you trying to make me out to be an idiot or the bad guy? What is YOUR theory on it? All I know is that dude stored stuff there, and seems to have the pedigree, weaponry, and assets that make sense for an agent or contractor of the agencies he claimed to work for.

4. :lol:

For someone who thinks so highly of himself, you sure do like spending time trying to attack the character of others rather than trying to use facts and evidence to prove your points. If you're so smart and knowledgable, where are the links to your evidence? Facts that back up your claims? I'll wait.
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GWAP said:
1. So having a massive amount of weaponry at a residence under your girlfriends name means those weapons are at a residence not connected to you? Completely unprofessional lol. Broke dope boy logic right there.

The type of guns he had are visible in pictures of the main stash along with the various reports of the whole situation. You should spend more time researching the available info.

Paying inflated prices is only used in laundering when the retailer is part of the operation. So you're saying that the gun retailers are part of a cia op? Any proof on that?

The lack of cohesive logic is appalling.
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His name does not appear on any paperwork for the condo, only his girlfriend, who owns that and several other properties around Cali. Paying inflated prices (ie retail) is great for laundering money, which may need laundering for any multitude of purposes.

Fast & Furious was known outside of the ATF before it was in motion, just google about the Fast & Furious probe if you're interested, people have been calling for it to be reopened. ATF was just the vehicle.

How do you know what kind of guns he had? Has there been an inventory posted? How do you know so much about the CIA's ability to covertly distribute weapons internationally, and how do you know Lash wasn't doing exactly that for the CIA?

You are great at detracting and distracting, i will give you that :lol:
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Can ya'll go somewhere else with this
 
According to your logic....

going to ucla = evidence of CIA recruitment

having guns in his girlfriends garage = having guns in a location not connected to him

ATF running fast and furious  = anybody with a mass amount of guns must be connected

CIA "knowing" what other federal agencies are doing = CIA actively participating in those programs

NTer disagreeing with your theories = NTer getting paid by the CIA to argue

it's rediculous
 
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