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its disgusting
the irony is these same people are reading about women in the middle east thinking "poor girl, its so evil how their religion exploits them like this"
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the irony is these same people are reading about women in the middle east thinking "poor girl, its so evil how their religion exploits them like this"
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One one side people are mad for someone choosing one imaginary mindset over the other while on the other side dude changed his belief system for a woman
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I don't.
In a perfect world, it wouldn't concern me at all but it's clear to see in the world today and throughout history how religious beliefs have harmed humanity. It's not just Christian beliefs btw. While there may have been some implications and allusions to it overall the Christian GOD hasn't been brought up much at all. Not that it would matter either way.
As far as recent discussions though, it's just been an effort to show one poster his error in thinking and close minded flawed reasoning. He's been using circular logic for a good min so it seems like a lost cause.
We probably got different definitions on close mindedness then.
Nah, I feel in public forums a display of sound logic to someone refusing to use it or acknowledge is a good dose of reality. It might not immediately change the person it question but there's hundreds if not thousands of lurkers who are undecided that actually look this stuff up and learn something. Each one, teach one.
You can do that. Go make that thread or at least have a much more tactful approach in trying to start that discussion in other threads.
I aint with none of that spirituality **** though. Just another cop out imo.
Like you said you can't force it.
Nobody wants to talk about some of that nonsense anyway. A soul is no different than ghost talk to me.
Who is this we?
You may already be prepared for the better tomorrow but not everyone KNOWS this. It's pure folly to pretend like everyone does.
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Welp guys, I tried. I was able to get you to deviate from the script for a page or two but we're right back to debunking god. I suppose thats a much easier debate for you all to have/win. To obsess over such easily disprovable claims seems sophomoric to me. My initial question was if anybody cared what was in the box, or if you just cared that religion/god is not in the box. I think I got my answer.
FYI just because YOU don't know or are unaware of certain things doesn't mean they haven't been experimentally proven. I did not bring up conspiracy, or illuminati or ghosts. I brought up science. But unless science is being used to debunk the bible it doesn't seem to be of much interest to folks in here beyond that. To each his own I guess.
FYI just because YOU don't know or are unaware of certain things doesn't mean they haven't been experimentally proven. I did not bring up conspiracy, or illuminati or ghosts. I brought up science. But unless science is being used to debunk the bible it doesn't seem to be of much interest to folks in here beyond that. To each his own I guess.
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So many of y'all are stuck on the Bible. You see an inaccuracy in the Torah, Bible or Koran therefore the God doesn't exist.
Ignoring the concept of God has been around since we become humans
You say God is man-made construct, so like 150,000 years ago, did one chief sit down in a field and thought.... "Yeah... the I'm going to make God...this will really get them"
Or was it shown to mankind.
Lets entertain the premise, the chief made up "the concept of God" where did that thought come from?
Thats a huge leap from basic self awareness to a complex greater than self
I know the answer will be the need to explain the unknown but some native cultures have been found that have no concept of God.
That is to me says the concept of God isn't instinctive to human thought
Ignoring the concept of God has been around since we become humans
You say God is man-made construct, so like 150,000 years ago, did one chief sit down in a field and thought.... "Yeah... the I'm going to make God...this will really get them"
Or was it shown to mankind.
Lets entertain the premise, the chief made up "the concept of God" where did that thought come from?
Thats a huge leap from basic self awareness to a complex greater than self
I know the answer will be the need to explain the unknown but some native cultures have been found that have no concept of God.
That is to me says the concept of God isn't instinctive to human thought
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See this is just like the GOD claims.
If you can prove souls exist or show me where it's proven then do it. If not what are we talking about? I'm straight up asking and you're response is just because you don't know doesn't mean it hasn't been proven. If something has been proven it shouldn't be hard to repeat that.
Aware me. You wasted a few posts talking about progression and furthering discussion. Show me the concrete proof of what you're claiming exists. Especially if you're saying they're experimentally been proven. If that was true then it'd be widespread knowledge wouldn't it?
To each his own seems to be the complete opposite of what you've been spewing earlier.
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Hey buddy...I hope you're having a good day and I mean that.
I feel blessed that we live in a country and have the internet, where we can have civil discussions like this. I know that sounds hokey.
When you have conversations about religion in real life, it becomes really weird and really awkward fast
I feel blessed that we live in a country and have the internet, where we can have civil discussions like this. I know that sounds hokey.
When you have conversations about religion in real life, it becomes really weird and really awkward fast
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Putting religion aside or not doesn't change the facts.
That's not proof of anything.
We all know that human beings will try to come up with their own answers when they can't explain something. The concept of GOD existing for a long time doesn't mean anything other than that.
Why are you talking like "man made construct" has some bias or agenda behind it? A man made construct is self explanatory. It's just a fact if something is a man made construct.
The chief just tried to explain something else nobody else could along with every other person whose solely used their imagination to explain things they could not explain.
Where is this really going?
Do you want to discuss how the mind works? Imagination? A metaphysical conversation? I won't do that with you because I don't believe you know much about philosophy but go ahead and make stuff up or misunderstand terms and theories.
No it is not. We live on Earth. Nature is greater than self. If human beings can recognize a hurricane is bigger than them, see a huge mountain that appears unclimbable, or see what appears to be an endless vast ocean they can imagine many great things. It is our experiences and environment that foster our imagination. It's only critical thought, investigation, and experimentation that rule out what's not possible.
There is a leap in logic for you to reach that conclusion.
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Never said there was proof souls exist. I was referring to the subjects I mentioned earlier. The ones you claimed are a cop out and that nobody wants to talk about. Not gonna waste time gathering sources if it's gonna fall on deaf ears. If your truly interested there's enough there for you to do your research.
If the extent of a soul is some translucent, gasous, personification of a dead person then I wouldn't hold my breath for proof. If you all can get away from what the Bible tells you a soul is, what the Bible tells you afterlife is it might actually be a discussion worth having. There might be some useful science to that end. Frequencies carrying unique biological and genetic info are transmitted from our bodies out into the universe faster than the speed of light, our bodies are also able to receive these same signal frequencies. That has been proven. You can debate the knowledge and relegate it to the realm of Jesus and the bible or you can get off that one trick pony and try to learn something new.
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It's simple.
1. State your claim
2. Present your argument
3. State your conclusion
1. State your claim
2. Present your argument
3. State your conclusion
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Yeah I said spirituality is a cop out. I said to go make a thread if you want to talk about that. If you bring it up here and nobody engages you about it that's a sign nobody here wants to talk about it with you.
I didn't say say anything about them not being real.
Sources of what?
Interested in what? If you're still talking about the stuff I said was a cop out I think you missed what I mean when I addressed it.
If this:
Is what you wanna talk about go make a thread. See how it goes. If nobody ever really wants to get that discussion going after several attempts I think you got your answer. Perhaps go to another forum.
I'm not particularly interested in most of those things as discussion topics at least in the way you've brought them up.
If that's your take on a soul then I don't see why you'd bring it up knowing you couldn't prove it.
Why are you assuming everything goes back to the bible?
If you want to bring up souls, first at least describe what that is instead of pretending everyone has the same exact definition of it. Then go about proving it. Before you go attaching your personal definition to some other stuff.
What's the name of this science?
Can I get a link or something?
It's been proven that there are frequencies (from our bodies) traveling faster than the speed of light? When was this proven?
Do you even know what you're saying?
You seem to be the one really hung up on Jesus and the bible. What's been debated goes for any religion.
This also goes for any other thing you want to pretend has a scientific backing that's just made up and sounds good in the context of bull ****.
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We can only have opinions and discussion on topics that have been verified by the scientific method? It's one thing to ignore the method, it's another to delve into gray areas. I'd prefer to discuss the gaps in the method intelligently without using the bible.
Rocks has genes? I was unaware. It's funny cause you're the one stuck on biblical entities and you're the one who clearly knows nothing of the scientific phenomenon Lol.
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Today, you're glad we have internet. If this was 100+ years years ago you would call it the work of the devil.Hey buddy...I hope you're having a good day and I mean that.
I feel blessed that we live in a country and have the internet, where we can have civil discussions like this. I know that sounds hokey.
When you have conversations about religion in real life, it becomes really weird and really awkward fast
Same to you man
What's the name of this science?
Can I get a link or something?
It's been proven that there are frequencies (from our bodies) traveling faster than the speed of light? When was this proven?
Do you even know what you're saying?
Has the distinct feel of some youtube pseudoscience
I'll wait for the proof tho
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I saw when you called him out earlier about it I'm just waiting for confirmation since he's so open in admitting it.
Dude straight up said it's been experimentally proven. Reminds me of when one of the Muslim NTers tried to tell me it was proven that Islam was the oldest religion and the Quran dated before the other 2 Abrahamic religions and his proof was a youtube vid of other Muslims claiming that was indeed the truth.
I'm just waiting for confirmation since he's so open in admitting it.Dude straight up said it's been experimentally proven. Reminds me of when one of the Muslim NTers tried to tell me it was proven that Islam was the oldest religion and the Quran dated before the other 2 Abrahamic religions and his proof was a youtube vid of other Muslims claiming that was indeed the truth.
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The Lord works in delirious ways
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So you want a claim more claims? Pass
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Thoughts?
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Obviously the lady who died was hated by God
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What are these gaps in the scientific method that you speak of?
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Simple,
Question
Answer
Conclusion
The gaps are,
Mystic force
Plam reading
Karma
E harmony dimensions of compatibility
The will to win
Power levels
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Also, midi-chlorians.
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thats science b
everything was better when faith was all we had when dealing with the force
