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Poll Results: Would you spend €100+ on Paul Pogba??

 
  • 48% (37)
    Yup, still very young and filled with potential...
  • 51% (39)
    Nah, no CM could be worth that much...
76 Total Votes  
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Ramsey can easily fill that roll in the middle but idk about Jack due to his inability to stay healthy
i honestly think ramsey doesn't deserve a starting spot. 
everytime i watch yall he struggles

Ramsey God level form (maybe was 2013-2014) during a certain stretch forever will baffle me. Dude was scoring insane goals
Before he got injured during that stretch he was probably a top 10 player in the world

Then he faded into bolivia
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Before he got injured during that stretch he was probably a top 10 player in the world

Then he faded into bolivia

Top 10 though? Top 10?

You don't get that ranking from a brief run of success...it has to be sustained
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Top 10 though? Top 10?

You don't get that ranking from a brief run of success...it has to be sustained

Maybe a top 10 young player but not even top 30 in world
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You think James is coming to Chelsea? I would love him here, but I don't see why he leaves Real. Haven't really seen a lot of Texeira, what kind of player is he?
I really do, reports have been coming out for awhile that James isn't happy at all at Real. Lack of playing time x Benitez style doesn't suit. Chelsea will use Prez and Zidane had on for hazard to do the switch. As for Texeira, he is a winger who can also play as a striker. currently leading goal scorer in Europe. Reminds me of an improved Shurrle
post #18065 of 50776
I mean strictly during that godly stretch
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Top 10 though? Top 10?

You don't get that ranking from a brief run of success...it has to be sustained

Maybe a top 10 young player but not even top 30 in world

Nah during that run he was top 5. Besides CR/Messi/Zlatan/Neymar/Suarez/Etc the rankings of the best have to be in terms of who's in form imo. Is hazard still top 5 like he was universally claimed before the year? Not anymore, but we all know talent wise he's
still up there.

But back to my point, Ramsey during that run was top 10. No question.
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https://www.ipo.gov.uk/tmcase/Results/1/UK00003141842

 

So this is gonna be the new badge, its what was expected since so many fans wanted this look back.

 

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"Democracy isn't a spectator sport"

 

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"Democracy isn't a spectator sport"

 

post #18069 of 50776
Way better than the eagle cop badge
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I was ambivalent towards the eagle and the stars but I really like the new/old look.

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I don't know how strict your job is but man you gotta come up with a lie and say you worship or take care of your elderly grandparents or something on Saturday/Sunday like I use to do a few years ago laugh.gif

i only work monday through friday but with the holidays being during the week we have to make up a missed day








glad $hitty got rid of those stars

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post #18072 of 50776

but what I'm saying being in good form doesn't make you a top 10 player though.

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Why German soccer wants American players

“If a player from the United States would come here and score every week,” said Michael Schade, CEO of Bayer Leverkusen, one of the biggest clubs in the history of German football, “it would be a dream come true.”

It’s a jarringly direct quote and one that shocked me and other international reporters in the Leverkusen boardroom a month ago. But as Schade, formerly an executive of Bayer AG, the pharmaceutical company that sponsors the club, made it clear that he wasn’t being coy. “I think that America is not only a fantastic country, it’s a growing market for soccer. It’s also a growing market for marketing activities for European soccer clubs, but we have to show up.”

“We have to show up,” it’s a clear statement, one that’s laced with both guilt for the past and pragmatism for the future. The German Bundesliga has been one of Europe’s top leagues stretching back to the dawn of European soccer but it’s a league that in 2015 has struggled to capture the attention of the global soccer market. The reasoning is twofold. On one hand the dominance of Bayern Munich, winners of the last four league titles, has somewhat soured the reputation of the league outside its borders from a competitive standpoint. This is especially pronounced in America where parity is seen as an essential ingredient for sporting activities. Bayern running ramshod over their opponents is somewhat Un-American. Additionally, Germany’s justified (but rather prideful) feelings towards their own football domestically has in turn hampered their global impact, or at the very least facilitated their protracted international efforts.

America is, like it has been throughout history from a more social and political perspective, the new frontier. It’s the new world again, but this time for the beautiful game. From convoluted ideas like ‘The Americas Champions League’ to NBC’s impressive coverage of the Premier League, the potential gains from investing in the fanatic and lucrative American sports market, is no secret.

The Bundesliga is no different, the league has been ramping up its efforts stateside in recent years. Some moves may have appeared subtle in a vacuum but upon closer inspection appear to be part of a more substantial strategy. Bayern Munich opened offices in New York City, a new English-language YouTube channel was created, and other clubs even started their own American-focused entities, Twitter channels and club stores that are distinctly different to their English counterparts. This is all in an attempt to compete with the Premier League, a league that’s marketed itself stateside as the preeminent soccer competition in the world, even supplanting the Uefa Champions League in importance, at least to American fans.

“Maybe in the past we made a few mistakes because the Premier League started 10 years earlier with internationalization. And that was very helpful [to EPL teams] as far as I know. Most of the teams are playing overseas in the summer break,” said Schade.

Schade’s business background tends to shine in these conversations. He doesn’t mince words and he’s very direct. His club is also adopting his directness in their strategies. In less than a month’s time both Leverkusen, Schalke 04 and Ukraine’s Shakhtar Donestk will be in Florida for the second-annual Florida Cup. There the European clubs will take on the local Fort Lauderdale Strikers as well as teams from Brazil and Colombia. It’s designed as a training camp for the players during the Bundesliga’s winter break, but the Florida sun and relaxed atmosphere aside, for the clubs themselves it’s marketing crunch time.

The massive amounts of foreign TV money being pumped into the Premier League has read like a code-red for their competitors: Serie A, La Liga and of course the Bundesliga. European football has always been this broad singular entity, in fact that was the appeal, with so many leagues on showcase a fan has a wide palette from which to choose from. But by venturing abroad early, and with such a focused strategy, the Premier League has positioned itself smartly stateside, taking full advantage of America’s penchant for the solitary sport league (NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL). Now everyone is trying to play catch up.

“The USA is a very important market for the Bundesliga and obviously also for our club Schalke 04, and that’s why after having our winter training camps in many other countries we selected the USA as the host,” said Alexander Jobst, head of marketing for Schalke 04. “We expect wonderful training conditions, good weather conditions and of course a challenging tournament which will help expand our brand also in US for the future.”

The Germans are very direct but this isn’t just some ham-fisted approach to delve into the American market either; there are roots here. The German-American connection dates to the annals of the modern US men’s national team in the early 90s, when the likes of the German-born Thomas Dooley donned the stars and stripes for the 1994 World Cup. Today it’s a connection that permeates all facets of US soccer, perhaps even too much according to some.

Still, tapping into this market is a tricky task, which is likely why Schade was so blatant about the desire for a successful American player at the club. “If you know anyone…” he joked to the room.

But what would this even look like? This mythical American striker that would bang in the goals in Germany? How would he affect the game on and off the pitch? Thankfully, this isn’t even solely theoretical, there’s actually a real-life example though we have to go south of the border.

Javier ‘Chicharito’ Hernandez, the Mexican forward who has plied his trade for Manchester United and Real Madrid in recent years, has in no uncertain terms become a behemoth for Bayer Leverkusen. On the pitch the Mexican has been in fine form, he’s scored 17 goals in his last 14 matches and he’s become the club’s talisman winning the Bundesliga Player of the Month award in November. But despite his exploits on the pitch they largely pale in comparison to what he’s done for the club off of it.

20% of the club’s 1.8m Facebook followesr from Bayer 04 Leverkusen are located in Mexico. That’s more than 300,000 fans in total.
Bayer’s Facebook page also has the highest percentage growth among the top European clubs after starting to produce and share content especially tailored for Mexico.
Just six weeks after its launch the Spanish-language Twitter channel has already amassed more than 45k followers.
The Twitter account is quite interesting in fact, as it directly targets newer Leverkusen fans, posting the times for the game broadcasts in Mexico and explanatory tweets about the history of the club and its players. While Chicharito himself hasn’t forced a marketing plan upon Leverkusen he’s certainly guided its current direction. He’s likely the reason behind the club’s American approach in lieu of a more Asian-centered effort. Rest assured when Leverkusen land on American shores on 10 January the Mexican will be top billing.

Still, the Bundesliga is a top league and most importantly a practical one. During our interview Schade spelled out Leverkusen’s strategy for selling Son Heung Min, a fan favorite and star player to Tottenham Hotspur of the Premier League this past summer, in exceedingly practical terms. American players may be desired but the league has no plans to dilute its quality in lieu of a marketing boon.

America has long pined for it’s own Lionel Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo, that transcendent player that brings casuals into the sport through a mix of marketability, charisma and on-pitch brilliance. Yet even a player of that caliber likely wouldn’t be needed given Chicharito’s success. Landon Donovan was a viable candidate yet he wanted nothing to do with Europe, at least on a long-term basis. Clint Dempsey, in turn, did have a relatively successful career abroad but the soccer climate stateside wasn’t quite right and much of his success in his prime went unnoticed back home. Then of course there is Freddy Adu, who after all these years may still have been the best chance, but his development was entirely botched as he was hastily forced into a professional life far too early. Of the current crop of Americans currently plying their trade in Germany, Fabian Johnson, John Anthony Brooks and Julian Green among others, there’s a sense that they are far too ‘German’ to truly capture the hearts of the fan base back home.

The Bundesliga also represents the best path to success for American players abroad. American players tend to lack the technical ability to make it in Spain, or the tactical ability to make it in Europe. Not to mention the different cultures require a assimilation on and off the pitch. They aren’t as desired in England as there’s no inherent need to focus on the American market. But in Germany many of the factors align both on and off the pitch, it’s why we’ve seen so many Americans thrive over the years.

But there’s certainly interest and now that German clubs have seen the impact a player can have in the American market they are finely tuned to any other opportunities. One staff member mentioned to me that Chicharito may be the important player in the history of the club in terms of global impact, this is club that’s had the likes of Michael Ballack and Ze Roberto in their ranks in the last 15 years.

“You might dream of a transfer like this, but you can’t expect it,” Schade said recently in an interview with Rheinische Post. In that same interview he referred to the Mexican as “life insurance”. Most of sports media took quote at face value and while I’m sure that Schade’s comments were somewhat a reflection of Chicharito’s recent goal-scoring exploits, his comment may have been a little more literal than perceived.
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Bundesliga clubs should do more summer exhibitions with MLS clubs

Toronto FC v Dortmund
NYCFC v Bayern Munich
LA Galaxy v Bayer Leverkusen

Do a Bayer Leverkusen v Guadalajara so Chicha visits his home squad in mexico

Get fox to play more games on fox 1

Boom
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I honestly feel that Fox needs to show Bayer Laverkusen matches at least once every other week on FOX, not FS1 or FS2 or that bull ****.

 

 

Actually have it on FOX, and people will watch.

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post #18076 of 50776
With all the German-American kids Germany definitely needs a foothold here. Not to mention America benefits with a bigger selection of players.
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I honestly feel that Fox needs to show Bayer Laverkusen matches at least once every other week on FOX, not FS1 or FS2 or that bull ****.

 

 

Actually have it on FOX, and people will watch.

why cause chicha?

 

 

nah no one cares 

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I honestly feel that Fox needs to show Bayer Laverkusen matches at least once every other week on FOX, not FS1 or FS2 or that bull ****.


Actually have it on FOX, and people will watch.
why cause chicha?


nah no one cares 

right laugh.gif if they were gonna show BDL on the actual fox channel and want viewers they'd show dortmund or bayern
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i really thought that i was gonna watch more bundisliga since it was on fox but i really dont i like the premer league too much and im sure a lot of america is the same way

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#StandWithChicha

 


 

"If you have a critique for the resistance, for our resistance, then you better have an established record of critique of our oppression" - Jesse Williams

 

"Democracy isn't a spectator sport"

 

"If you have a critique for the resistance, for our resistance, then you better have an established record of critique of our oppression" - Jesse Williams

 

"Democracy isn't a spectator sport"

 

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Once coquelin is back (unless we buy a dm, hopefully), I think wenger will stick with Ramsey as the DM's partner, le Coq covers much more field defensively and could protect Ramsey when he runs up, Ramsey indeed can be frustrating as on Monday but it's only his 3rd or 4th start back I think he's shaking the rust off rapidly as our midfield has been much more dynamic with him in it, which pretty much handled mam city but because of that he does leave the back four exposed so hopefully he'll improve the positioning. If jack stays fit when he gets back Wenger is going to find SOMEWHERE for him laugh.gif wouldn't be surprised if he goes back to the 1-4-1-4
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Man I hate fox, they manage to get CL and bundesliga matches yet still broadcast in standard definition smh
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messi 

 

- 51 goals and 25 assists in 57 appearances in 2015

- scored in 7 different competitions in 2015 (all time record)

- has won every competition he played for Barca at least 3 times.

 

 

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Messi is one of the reasons I got back into watching football. I never get tired of watching him play, his dribbling and creating is so filthy
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https://www.ipo.gov.uk/tmcase/Results/1/UK00003141842

So this is gonna be the new badge, its what was expected since so many fans wanted this look back.

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Meh, I liked the eagle look but this badge looks like it deserves more sky blue. Too white and navy.

Not bad tho.
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I like the new City badge
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post #18087 of 50776
all they need now to be copped is old spice sponsorship
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if pep goes to city, i wonder what's going to happen with him and yaya becuase pep is the reason yaya was sold. 

yaya loved barca and was salty about the move.  

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Yaya is washed, so I'm guessing he'll be sold again
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https://www.ipo.gov.uk/tmcase/Results/1/UK00003141842

So this is gonna be the new badge, its what was expected since so many fans wanted this look back.

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Not a fan of this badge at all. Probably will grow on me but this looks like a Scholastic children's picture book cover.
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