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Poll Results: Would you spend €100+ on Paul Pogba??

 
  • 48% (37)
    Yup, still very young and filled with potential...
  • 51% (39)
    Nah, no CM could be worth that much...
76 Total Votes  
post #18751 of 50776
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Originally Posted by HEGGSY View Post

The thing is fans will say the league is weak either way, to suit their argument, that's what annoys me.

Leicester top of the league? The Premier League is weak.

Oh look, City, Chelsea, United and Arsenal competing for the title again? There's no competition the league is weak.

We're joint top because we've been better than 18 other teams, and we're only behind the 19th team on goal difference. We've not beaten any of the so called "Top 4" bar Chelsea, who are having an awful season, but let's not ignore the fact that we've beaten Norwich, West Brom, West Ham and got something at Southampton, all of which have beaten Arsenal or at least took a point. Bournemouth beating United, Stoke beating City and United.

The league is stronger this year, people just don't like to admit it because it doesn't suit them.

I'm with you Heggsy.

Shade gets thrown at you guys every week, but you're winning.

Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea... They're like the Chicago Bulls, Lakers, and Celtics of football. They're washed right now, but since Cleveland, Houston, and Golden State are out here cookin' the league is "weak". All because its not what it used to be for them.

I hope you continue to have a good campaign and come back next year just as strong.


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Originally Posted by ACW NJ View Post

Let's be fair, if Mourinho could face Wenger every week he would never have been fired tongue.gif

Too bad he doesn't tho.
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Originally Posted by An Armada View Post

I agree with @HEGGSY
  I think it means the league is getting stronger. The fact that City, Arsenal, United, Chelsea, Liverpool are not necessarily struggling but having to deal with the competition getting better now meaning they won't cruise through the league. People will say those teams have world class talent and the money and should cruise trough the league and only have to worry about each other and teams like Leicester, Watford, Palace and Stoke shouldn't give them trouble but I think the players on those teams and they way they are being managed right now might be better than we give them credit for. And lets not forgot clubs like Spurs, West Ham, Swansea and Everton have always been ready to give the top clubs trouble for years. and I don't think any of this is because the top clubs are getting weaker sure they aren't performing to their old standard (not including City cause our old standard used to be **** depending on how far back we are talking about laugh.gif ) to me it has more to do with the middle table clubs are getting stronger. I think this is a great thing for the league.

I agree
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laugh.gif  typical arsenal fan... lmao yall aren't even good. everyone else just sucks this year. 
Facts.
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IMO it's not even an argument regards to the league being stronger. It absolutely is. There's a notable compression between mid-table and the top.  I think this is the CAUSE of a percived weaker top 2 or 3 teams - excluding the Mourinho meltdown at Chelsea 

 

You have to go back quite a few years to find a team at the top of the table after xmas on 39 points as Arsenal are now. Last year Chelsea had 46, year before Arsenal 42, before that Man U on 49 and city on 45. This is the result of a stronger league in my mind, no doubt.

 

It's going to hurt the Champions League quota though when you have La Liga with teams getting pasted by 8 or 9 

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post #18754 of 50776

Man, I know I don't post in this thread much, but I've been lurking for a while and I don't know if some of you guys are trolling or not :lol

 

Somehow, since Arsenal are tied with Leicester at the top of the league we're buns? Leicester have been balling out of their minds man, especially for a club that just came out of the championship only a few seasons ago. All the credit goes to them. So if we (Arsenal) are buns, what does that say about every other top prem club then? We're on top of the table.. you're not.. Every season it seems like something is happening at Pool, MU, MC or Chelsea and everyone always seems to take out their frustration for their team on Arsenal by gassing them for never winning the league. :lol

 

 

Watch, dudes right now are saying "Arsenal better win the league it's the perfect time while every other team is weak."

 

But if we do win the league y'all going to say "Arsenal are trash they won the league while everyone else was weak" :rollin

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Arsenal fans springing out like the annoying weeds they are. Hopefully New Castle deals with them proper.
post #18756 of 50776
everything @HEGGSY said is facts. The mission of trying to discredit any progression/results of other clubs is obvious. The salt from the ManU and Chelski is quite hilarious and awesome
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post #18757 of 50776
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Originally Posted by TomDiginson View Post

Arsenal fans springing out like the annoying weeds they are. Hopefully New Castle deals with them proper.


Bruh, deep down you know that ain't happening.


And I don't see how we're any more annoying than any other fan of any other team in any other sport when they're winning.
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post #18758 of 50776
Did I say the league was weaker? Don't think so,just that the gap between the top 4 and everyone else is so tiny that just about everyone in the top half technically has a title shot at the moment. It makes for a much more entertaining season after last years snoozer thats for sure. Not throwing shade at Heggsy FC or anything at all,just remarking how unusual this season has been. You guys have honestly been the most consistent squad in the league so far...
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cant help but slightly, just a bit, shake my head at these so called fans of teams who are so in to it when they dont live near or are even in the same continent as the teams they "support"

if the team i like wins im happy. if they lose then so be it. im not gona bash other teams or wish other teams lose.

to the americans in this thread, how do you feel when non state or city fans in any league support your local team

same question goes to the brits or spaniards in the thread.
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salt from chelsea fans lulz

im pretty sure the chelsea fans are more worried about the stability of the club this season than caring that much about the top 4, just what I've noticed from other chelsea fans online.

But yea, say facts about arsenal and its salt. okay...

I noticed here and on reddit that some people throw salt at leicester city saying their run wont be long and just wishing ill on them for no reason.

I don't understand why throwing salt at their successful season so far is okay amongst top 4 clubs.

It's like not having the typical top 4 just grinds peoples gears or something.

Passive aggressive people are the worse.
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post #18761 of 50776
Only support teams in your continent...if you dont have any,dont follow! Got it eyes.gif

Wonder if these leagues would still be raking in so much cash without international support/viewers
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Do you work for the FA by any chance? You'd fit right in laugh.gif
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Originally Posted by blasdiaz View Post

cant help but slightly, just a bit, shake my head at these so called fans of teams who are so in to it when they dont live near or are even in the same continent as the teams they "support"

if the team i like wins im happy. if they lose then so be it. im not gona bash other teams or wish other teams lose.

to the americans in this thread, how do you feel when non state or city fans in any league support your local team

same question goes to the brits or spaniards in the thread.

I don't care at all... I was born and raised in Massachusetts, lived their for 23 years and have been in SF for 2 years now and met a bunch of Patriot fans who aren't from New England, doesn't bother me one bit.
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post #18764 of 50776
Almost every single Arsenal fan I've dealt with whether it be IRL or over the interwebz has been a **** one way or another. So I don't too care for the success of Arsenal. One Arsenal fan that I occasionally play in fifa and play pickup with is always talking the most trash. Dude said "Leicester was gonna run out of steam and go back to being trash blah blah blah". A month and change later and they are still up top and he is still saying the same thing. Criticizing everybody else and seems to have forgotten that his club has been just meh as some of clubs he's bashing.

As for the current condition of the prem, several teams have gotten better in the league, while some others have regressed. It's refreshing to see some of these smaller teams work many of the more dominant teams. I can actually enjoy watching a stoke game now when they play a bigger club. It was fun watching Southhampton do work against Farcenal.
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post #18766 of 50776
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Originally Posted by blasdiaz View Post

cant help but slightly, just a bit, shake my head at these so called fans of teams who are so in to it when they dont live near or are even in the same continent as the teams they "support"

if the team i like wins im happy. if they lose then so be it. im not gona bash other teams or wish other teams lose.

to the americans in this thread, how do you feel when non state or city fans in any league support your local team

same question goes to the brits or spaniards in the thread.

 

I've come to accept people will follow whatever team they want for whatever reason. They are welcome to support my hometown team as long as they don't jump ship when things go to ****. I do think there is something special about supporting your home town team (I will always support Atlanta sports first) but if someone doesn't follow their hometown teams I don't care because frankly thats the norm for a section of fans in all sports. The only sports fans I have a problem with are ones that jump from team to team based off of who is currently winning at the time but even then I don't care that much because at the end of the day when it comes to sports all I care about is the Falcons, Hawks, Braves, US Soccer and Man City and i'll never not support those teams.

"If you have a critique for the resistance, for our resistance, then you better have an established record of critique of our oppression" - Jesse Williams

 

"Democracy isn't a spectator sport"

 

"If you have a critique for the resistance, for our resistance, then you better have an established record of critique of our oppression" - Jesse Williams

 

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The irony laugh.gif


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Originally Posted by blasdiaz View Post

cant help but slightly, just a bit, shake my head at these so called fans of teams who are so in to it when they dont live near or are even in the same continent as the teams they "support"

if the team i like wins im happy. if they lose then so be it. im not gona bash other teams or wish other teams lose.

to the americans in this thread, how do you feel when non state or city fans in any league support your local team

same question goes to the brits or spaniards in the thread.
i love the game of football, and the majority of the best leagues are in europe. I was born in the US but because i dont live in the continent of where the most quality lives amongst that sport then i cant pick a euro club, That just makes no sense. I get the non state cheering for local, i personally prefer to cheer only for my city's teams and sometimes, i dont get when other people from other states cheer on non-local teams but everyone has their own reasons but these american sports are of the highest quality in the states, the best leagues and players amongst american football, baseball, basketball etc. are here, its the same principle except we dont have the choice of a great local team here because american culture and sports isnt about soccer as the most popular sport here, its not as developed and enjoyed like the rest of the world. So again, i love the game of football (soccer) i enjoy to watch this sport at the highest levels where all the best of the best fight against eachother in leagues across europe but because i simply wasnt born where the sport is most popular i cant support a team where its played at the highest level is just inane. Sports is purely entertainment and vice for people as we dont affect the results at all. The information put out there accessible to us is no different when the banter and debates happen amongst sports in other countries, you enjoy when your team is doing well and down when they lose.
Edited by JOSH4523 - 12/30/15 at 7:44pm
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post #18768 of 50776
im not saying teams cannot have international fans, all im saying is bashing and trash talking as if theyre from the city where the team is from. thats what i dont get
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Originally Posted by An Armada View Post

I've come to accept people will follow whatever team they want for whatever reason. They are welcome to support my hometown team as long as they don't jump ship when things go to ****. I do think there is something special about supporting your home town team (I will always support Atlanta sports first) but if someone doesn't follow their hometown teams I don't care because frankly thats the norm for a section of fans in all sports. The only sports fans I have a problem with are ones that jump from team to team based off of who is currently winning at the time but even then I don't care that much because at the end of the day when it comes to sports all I care about is the Falcons, Hawks, Braves, US Soccer and Man City and i'll never not support those teams.

agree. thanks for the reply
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Originally Posted by TomDiginson View Post

Almost every single Arsenal fan I've dealt with whether it be IRL or over the interwebz has been a **** one way or another. So I don't too care for the success of Arsenal. One Arsenal fan that I occasionally play in fifa and play pickup with is always talking the most trash. Dude said "Leicester was gonna run out of steam and go back to being trash blah blah blah". A month and change later and they are still up top and he is still saying the same thing. Criticizing everybody else and seems to have forgotten that his club has been just meh as some of clubs he's bashing.

As for the current condition of the prem, several teams have gotten better in the league, while some others have regressed. It's refreshing to see some of these smaller teams work many of the more dominant teams. I can actually enjoy watching a stoke game now when they play a bigger club. It was fun watching Southhampton do work against Farcenal.

Come on man, don't be petty and assume every fan is the same. Every fan base has it's annoying dudes I get it but not everyone is like that :\ 

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Come on man, don't be petty and assume every fan is the same. Every fan base has it's annoying dudes I get it but not everyone is like that ohwell.gif  
I didn't say everyone. I said almost. Hell, I got banned from this thread because of an Arsenal fan eyes.gif
Edited by TomDiginson - 12/30/15 at 7:38pm
post #18772 of 50776
A champions league final will be played in the states in a couple of years. You heard it here first
post #18773 of 50776
The quality of football in the top leagues has gotten worse. Too many players are caught up in the celebrity aspect of the game instead of actually improving their game.

Hence you have Ronaldo and Messi looking good when in reality they are pretty average players. If you took both of them at their current age and took them back 7-10 years it would be painfully obvious
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I bet you think Babe Ruth is better than most modern baseball players today too.

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"Democracy isn't a spectator sport"

 

"If you have a critique for the resistance, for our resistance, then you better have an established record of critique of our oppression" - Jesse Williams

 

"Democracy isn't a spectator sport"

 

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Originally Posted by blasdiaz View Post

im not saying teams cannot have international fans, all im saying is bashing and trash talking as if theyre from the city where the team is from. thats what i dont get

I get what you're saying. And I agree to an extent.

It's part of the reason why I began liking so many teams. Im not from these places, I'm not living in the streets/neighborhoods where these clubs play and represent so it's not as personal for me as my hometown teams. So I never really took it personal when liking teams.

I've grown to really like Arsenal though. And it's become easier for me to just follow them and enjoy being a one team fan rather than having a handful of teams to support over the last few months.

On the other hand, I grew up playing sports my entire life. So trash talking and competition is kind of part of the nature of sports for me. I don't take this **** personally or hold grudges against guys in here no matter what we've said or what clubs we support. It's a game to me. And once we talk our smack and the games end, it's whatever. If we were all in a bar I'd high five you guys and carry on with life like I always have cause they're just games.
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Don't get how the prem is stronger despite getting washed in Europe.

Them prem bias runs strong through people though. Even to the point that when the top sides almost all underachieve it somehow is a positive thing for the EPL.
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I can only speak for myself but i wasn't talking about the Premier League being stronger in Europe thats not the case at this time obviously. I just meant stronger when it comes to the league by itself and its clubs when it comes to playing other Premier League clubs..

"If you have a critique for the resistance, for our resistance, then you better have an established record of critique of our oppression" - Jesse Williams

 

"Democracy isn't a spectator sport"

 

"If you have a critique for the resistance, for our resistance, then you better have an established record of critique of our oppression" - Jesse Williams

 

"Democracy isn't a spectator sport"

 

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Don't get how the prem is stronger despite getting washed in Europe.

Them prem bias runs strong through people though. Even to the point that when the top sides almost all underachieve it somehow is a positive thing for the EPL.
They're saying competition within the league is stronger. TV money is giving mid table teams more cash to get quality players they never could before.
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The argument is being made here that it's more of a case that the lesser teams have caught up to the standards of the top sides but that isn't true. It's more of a case of the top sides underperforming, underachieving, and/or being inconsistent.

I'm not taking anything away from the Cinderella stories of the season. Some clubs are balling week in and week out and maximizing the output from their respective talent and you gotta respect that. And also the prem is the richest league and loaded with talent. But even so, I think the league has just gotten more competitive, but not stronger. The real barometer of that to me is play in Europe.

And nobody ever knocked the EPL when Chelsea, United, City, and Arsenal would be at the top to discredit the prem's strength. I've never seen it here on this board. U don't gotta make up things to enjoy the run Leicester is having Heggsy.
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Now the second sign of the BPL getting stronger is if the current guys in the Top 4, stay within the Top 4 and hold their own in the CL. If Leicester/Tottenham can even put up a fight or better yet make it past group stages? That's progress. It takes time.

Also I don't see the problem with trash talking. Thats what sports fans do. I have no issues with anyone in here, I'm just teasing.

Americans get made fun of for being out of the soccer loop. Its now expanding and now we're being told we don't even live in these countries so why care so much? Americans strictly like MLS and get told they are watching a garbage product and the real thing is so much better across the water. Y'all gotta pick a side and stick with it.

People overseas love basketball, its becoming a worldwide sport and funny enough, you'll never hear Americans shun people from different countries for liking different players or teams.
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