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Poll Results: Would you spend €100+ on Paul Pogba??

 
  • 48% (37)
    Yup, still very young and filled with potential...
  • 51% (39)
    Nah, no CM could be worth that much...
76 Total Votes  
post #9811 of 50776
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Originally Posted by An Armada View Post

I think he has them in the same sentence because he doesn't like them not because they are on the same level i'm assuming.

This. Not that they're on the same level, Hazard is obviously better than the other two but he is frustrating and infuriating to watch at times. So much talent and at times it feels like it goes to waste. He won player of the year award and I feel it was completely undeserving for someone with many lackluster performances.

I feel like the angry father who gets upset with his son because he's not where he wants to see his son at yet.
post #9812 of 50776
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Originally Posted by yankeesking92 View Post

This. Not that they're on the same level, Hazard is obviously better than the other two but he is frustrating and infuriating to watch at times. So much talent and at times it feels like it goes to waste. He won player of the year award and I feel it was completely undeserving for someone with many lackluster performances.

I feel like the angry father who gets upset with his son because he's not where he wants to see his son at yet.

Sanchez should've won PFA player of the year last season... Hazard had 14 goals in the league and I wonder how many of those were from open play..
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post #9813 of 50776
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Yea I also agree,Alexis should've won it last year but I think it came down to Hazard and Kane iirc and could you imagine all the backlash if they gave it to Kane? roll.gif
post #9814 of 50776

I wish they gave it to Kane

 

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post #9815 of 50776
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post #9816 of 50776
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Originally Posted by Rolaholic View Post
 

Don't know why I still bother with you vehemently anti-english footy types :lol:{ 

 

 

 

The trolling is blatant :rollin 

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Cool Kompany video... interesting that it was in English and not, say, Dutch or French...

 

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post #9817 of 50776
Thread Starter 
@Rolaholic18

I don't think anyone (or at least not me) is comparing Rooney with Chicha on the field. I'm comparing the way they've been and continue to be perceived off the field, The pedelstool they both stand, it isn't worthy. It's worse with Chicha with the Mexican fans - but Rooney gets paid wayyyyy much more, so his expectations should be way higher.

I don't think "amnesia" is the problem either, Rooney has only scored 20 plus goals in a season two times - TWO TIMES in his career. This Rooney being overrated narrative isn't new because he isn't scoring goals now, this has been a conversation for a long time now.

Like you said Rol "one man is going down a legend (Rooney).." - See stop, that's the problem. He isn't a legend, he shouldn't be given that type of footballing status. He's been more of a legendary symbol for club and country off the field - but on it - no way.

But yeah, you guys have to stop calling players trash. Don't follow that idiotic Truth-Serum route.
post #9818 of 50776
Oh word? If we consider players like Drogba, Henry and others to be legends,what's wrong with calling Rooney one? (Not taking anything away from those guys,they are legends imo) Dude is gonna end up as the all time scorer for both club and country on top of winning literally everything in club football...cmon Coupe laugh.gif. I'm not arguing that he's ever been at the Ronnie/Messi level,I never believed that myself but he was top 5 at one point imo. A countries best player in a generation usually ends up being considered legend status...no matter how much you hate the country or what it stands for laugh.gif.

He's scored 20 more than twice though laugh.gif,you probably meant 20 in the league. His goal numbers could've been higher imo but he played in attack with some of the best attackers of his generation (RVN,Ronnie,Tevez) so the goal scoring duties were always shared during most of his prime.

I know I don't have much of a leg to stand on given the current incarnation of Wazza that we see but still...
post #9819 of 50776
When I look at some of these ridiculous comments about the likes of Rooney or Hazard..it just reminds me of why I should only enter this thread around match days.... mean.gif
post #9820 of 50776
I feel you,it gets amplified during the international breaks though laugh.gifmean.gif
post #9821 of 50776

Another reason international breaks should be banned :lol

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"Democracy isn't a spectator sport"

 

post #9822 of 50776

I'm all for pushing it to the summer and taking out those never ending preseason friendlies :lol

 

In other news...on top of the retro line that Adidas dropped,they're also dropping a limited shoe appropriately named "The Stretford" :lol 

 

 

 

 

 

Looks kinda meh but I love the subtle devil on the heel :smokin

post #9823 of 50776

In MLS news Sebastian Giovinco shamed some more MLS defenders last night 

 

"If you have a critique for the resistance, for our resistance, then you better have an established record of critique of our oppression" - Jesse Williams

 

"Democracy isn't a spectator sport"

 

"If you have a critique for the resistance, for our resistance, then you better have an established record of critique of our oppression" - Jesse Williams

 

"Democracy isn't a spectator sport"

 

post #9824 of 50776

This dude has carried this team with the dead weight they have (Jozy) to the playoffs :{, I hope he carries them all the way to the title.

 

Just start planning the statue now Toronto.

"If you have a critique for the resistance, for our resistance, then you better have an established record of critique of our oppression" - Jesse Williams

 

"Democracy isn't a spectator sport"

 

"If you have a critique for the resistance, for our resistance, then you better have an established record of critique of our oppression" - Jesse Williams

 

"Democracy isn't a spectator sport"

 

post #9825 of 50776

Damn meant to post that goal last night,so filthy :x. He carried them to the playoffs for the first time in their history and is the leading scorer and assist maker in the league right now...won't surprise me if he's called up on loan by a big Euro club this Winter. He's also been killing it for the Azzurri internationally so I'd say it'd be well deserved 

 

Giovinco's already the MLS GOAT :lol 

post #9826 of 50776
Yeah he really might as well go back to Europe laugh.gif
post #9827 of 50776
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Originally Posted by eiddyfouw View Post

When I look at some of these ridiculous comments about the likes of Rooney or Hazard..it just reminds me of why I should only enter this thread around match days.... mean.gif


You think this is bad?

Go in the NBA season thread during the playoffs on an off night.
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post #9828 of 50776

Not just the playoffs,the off-season NBA thread gets just as bad :lol:x

post #9829 of 50776

I lurked like most before joining NT and I know enough about the NBA threads to know i'm not commenting in any NBA thread until the season starts :lol

"If you have a critique for the resistance, for our resistance, then you better have an established record of critique of our oppression" - Jesse Williams

 

"Democracy isn't a spectator sport"

 

"If you have a critique for the resistance, for our resistance, then you better have an established record of critique of our oppression" - Jesse Williams

 

"Democracy isn't a spectator sport"

 

post #9830 of 50776
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Rolaholic View Post

Oh word? If we consider players like Drogba, Henry and others to be legends,what's wrong with calling Rooney one? (Not taking anything away from those guys,they are legends imo) Dude is gonna end up as the all time scorer for both club and country on top of winning literally everything in club football...cmon Coupe laugh.gif. I'm not arguing that he's ever been at the Ronnie/Messi level,I never believed that myself but he was top 5 at one point imo. A countries best player in a generation usually ends up being considered legend status...no matter how much you hate the country or what it stands for laugh.gif.

He's scored 20 more than twice though laugh.gif,you probably meant 20 in the league. His goal numbers could've been higher imo but he played in attack with some of the best attackers of his generation (RVN,Ronnie,Tevez) so the goal scoring duties were always shared during most of his prime.

I know I don't have much of a leg to stand on given the current incarnation of Wazza that we see but still...

So I guess our definitions of the word "Legend" is different then. I'm looking at it from a "world of football" point of view, you're looking at it from a club/country point of view.

Henry is a Footballing Legend, one of the greatest to ever grace the field in the EPL. Rooney isn't, but I guess he is a United/England legend from your opinion? I guess I can't argue that, but I can argue it from a world-class point of view.
post #9831 of 50776
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by eiddyfouw View Post

When I look at some of these ridiculous comments about the likes of Rooney or Hazard..it just reminds me of why I should only enter this thread around match days.... mean.gif
I don't even know how Hazard got into the conversation, he's not on the poll. It was a healthy debate with Rooney and the rest of the dudes on the list but then it got overboard. laugh.gif

I don't mind it tho, if you have an opinion share it, bring it to the table - but all this "he's trash" talk is childish, I'm with you there.
post #9832 of 50776
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Originally Posted by Rolaholic View Post

Damn meant to post that goal last night,so filthy sick.gif . He carried them to the playoffs for the first time in their history and is the leading scorer and assist maker in the league right now...won't surprise me if he's called up on loan by a big Euro club this Winter. He's also been killing it for the Azzurri internationally so I'd say it'd be well deserved 

Giovinco's already the MLS GOAT laugh.gif  

I hope he stays. He is good for the MLS.

We need more players like him over here
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post #9833 of 50776
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Originally Posted by CoupeIt88 View Post
 
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Originally Posted by Rolaholic View Post

Oh word? If we consider players like Drogba, Henry and others to be legends,what's wrong with calling Rooney one? (Not taking anything away from those guys,they are legends imo) Dude is gonna end up as the all time scorer for both club and country on top of winning literally everything in club football...cmon Coupe laugh.gif. I'm not arguing that he's ever been at the Ronnie/Messi level,I never believed that myself but he was top 5 at one point imo. A countries best player in a generation usually ends up being considered legend status...no matter how much you hate the country or what it stands for laugh.gif.

He's scored 20 more than twice though laugh.gif,you probably meant 20 in the league. His goal numbers could've been higher imo but he played in attack with some of the best attackers of his generation (RVN,Ronnie,Tevez) so the goal scoring duties were always shared during most of his prime.

I know I don't have much of a leg to stand on given the current incarnation of Wazza that we see but still...

So I guess our definitions of the word "Legend" is different then. I'm looking at it from a "world of football" point of view, you're looking at it from a club/country point of view.

Henry is a Footballing Legend, one of the greatest to ever grace the field in the EPL. Rooney isn't, but I guess he is a United/England legend from your opinion? I guess I can't argue that, but I can argue it from a world-class point of view.

"Legend" to me is someone that has accomplished lot in terms of silverware/individual honors and has played at a high level for most of their careers. Club legends vary from just Legends imo. Club legends can be players that might not have been generally considered world class but they accomplished a lot and had big moments for a given club. They're usually the ones that fans create songs about after they're gone.

 

Given all he's won on top of being one of the best talents in the Prem of the last decade, Roo is a legend to me but I might be biased  :lol. I truly believe that prime Wazza is one of the better players the premier league has seen. Guess that's where we agree to disagree

post #9834 of 50776

Klopp mania's starting with a limp...Gomez and Ings are out for the year

 

Found some telling comments from Romario on the state of Brazils #9's...

 

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Romario on great Brazilian strikers: “It’s all in the past. Romario, Ronaldo, over. I can’t even name a good Brazilian striker these days.
 
At least, there wasn’t one in the last squad. To be honest, I don’t think there’s anyone fit to wear the #9 shirt.”

I sort of agree,the legit have no strikers right now compared to when they used to have some of the best around. Bet they really wish they had called up Costa for the confed cup last time around... :lol 

 

He also went on to roast Thiago Silva claiming that he doesn't have the character to play for Brazil  :rollin:x 

post #9835 of 50776
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Originally Posted by PRIME View Post

I hope he stays. He is good for the MLS.

We need more players like him over here
This. He's still getting called up for his National Team and probably is having the time of his life in Toronto. Already broke the MLS all time record of goals+assists total in a season with 35+ last time I checked. He's probably close to 40 by now. I don't see why he would go back to Italy unless it was for more money and being homesick or something.

Wish Portland could attract some of these big name overseas talent. Our weather is like England and we have the Nike and Adidas HQ over here, does that not mean anything? frown.gif
post #9836 of 50776
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Originally Posted by eiddyfouw View Post

When I look at some of these ridiculous comments about the likes of Rooney or Hazard..it just reminds me of why I should only enter this thread around match days.... mean.gif
I don't even know how Hazard got into the conversation, he's not on the poll. It was a healthy debate with Rooney and the rest of the dudes on the list but then it got overboard. laugh.gif

I don't mind it tho, if you have an opinion share it, bring it to the table - but all this "he's trash" talk is childish, I'm with you there.

Overrating is relative.

I never said Hazard was trash.

But when your manager rates you in the level of Messi and Ronaldo, when fans say you're top 3 in the world......

You can be a very good player, but if people call you the goat but you're not, you're overrated
post #9837 of 50776
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Originally Posted by Rolaholic View Post

"Legend" to me is someone that has accomplished lot in terms of silverware/individual honors and has played at a high level for most of their careers. Club legends vary from just Legends imo. Club legends can be players that might not have been generally considered world class but they accomplished a lot and had big moments for a given club. They're usually the ones that fans create songs about after they're gone.

Given all he's won on top of being one of the best talents in the Prem of the last decade, Roo is a legend to me but I might be biased  laugh.gif . I truly believe that prime Wazza is one of the better players the premier league has seen. Guess that's where we agree to disagree

I get that, the silverware, the history of Rooney at United - he will be a United legend. They'll sing the songs and hang the banners. No denying that, he can never score a goal again and still be a United legend.

But try not a United fan for one second, is Wayne Rooney (all-around) a football legend? - The answer will have to be no, that's the point I was making. The same would go for Drogba since you mentioned him, he's a Chelsea legend. Henry is the perfect example tho of my definition - He is a footballing legend. I will tell my kids about Henry - we all should.

On to the present tho, Wayne Rooney is not even 30 yet. So talking about his prime makes it feel like we're talking about a dude whose 40 years old. laugh.gif This dude needs to start producing now!!! Be the United legend you need to be right now laugh.gif
post #9838 of 50776

Santos wants FIFA to ban Neymar for 6 months :rollin

post #9839 of 50776
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Originally Posted by Rolaholic View Post

Klopp mania's starting with a limp...Gomez and Ings are out for the year

Found some telling comments from Romario on the state of Brazils #9's...

I sort of agree,the legit have no strikers right now compared to when they used to have some of the best around. Bet they really wish they had called up Costa for the confed cup last time around... laugh.gif  

He also went on to roast Thiago Silva claiming that he doesn't have the character to play for Brazil  roll.gifsick.gif  
I think Brazill will have to keep playing Neymar as a false 9, Costa on the left and Hulk/Willian on the right. I honestly cannot name one really good Brazilian striker outside of Luiz Adriano laugh.gif

Felipe Anderson and Coutinho deserves to get a call up too.

And shoutout to Deigo Costa, would of been his spot if he would of overlooked all the drama and politics that happen behind closed doors in the National Team Committee.
post #9840 of 50776
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rolaholic View Post

"Legend" to me is someone that has accomplished lot in terms of silverware/individual honors and has played at a high level for most of their careers. Club legends vary from just Legends imo. Club legends can be players that might not have been generally considered world class but they accomplished a lot and had big moments for a given club. They're usually the ones that fans create songs about after they're gone.

Given all he's won on top of being one of the best talents in the Prem of the last decade, Roo is a legend to me but I might be biased  laugh.gif . I truly believe that prime Wazza is one of the better players the premier league has seen. Guess that's where we agree to disagree

I get that, the silverware, the history of Rooney at United - he will be a United legend. They'll sing the songs and hang the banners. No denying that, he can never score a goal again and still be a United legend.

But try not a United fan for one second, is Wayne Rooney (all-around) a football legend? - The answer will have to be no, that's the point I was making. The same would go for Drogba since you mentioned him, he's a Chelsea legend. Henry is the perfect example tho of my definition - He is a footballing legend. I will tell my kids about Henry - we all should.

On to the present tho, Wayne Rooney is not even 30 yet. So talking about his prime makes it feel like we're talking about a dude whose 40 years old. laugh.gif This dude needs to start producing now!!! Be the United legend you need to be right now laugh.gif

He could literally pull off everything skill wise at his peak though so I'd say yes. Long cannon shots,calm clinical finishes,acrobatic goals you name it. Plus he had a ridiculous motor  back then and never stopped running full speed it seemed :lol.

 

No need to tell me :lol,yea man you don't know how much it pains me to see his current form :{. Think all that mileage and his playing style finally caught up with his body. I still want to see him snap out of it but we might be better off if he got dropped for Ander tbh...:\.

 

Sucks to see his decline but it's not unprecedented,we all remember how fast 'Dinho fell off after being probably the most skilled player I ever saw before Messi. Sucks to see but it happens,it makes me appreciate the likes of Zlatan,Totti,Tevez and Ronnie that much more since they haven't really suffered a drastic decline in form as they've gotten older.

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