OFFICIAL 2015-2016 College Football Season Thread

[dacomeup]

 

 

 

 

He fits the college game so much better IMO. His personality is not built to have guys under him for 7-8 years. 3-5 years and out with younger, impressionable guys is perfect. Kids seem like they're hanging on every word that comes out of his mouth right now.


Definitely not leaving after 2 years anyways.

Very true.. But I could see Dolphins owner opening up the vault in a couple years

That's an interesting idea. He lets his school get Harbaugh for a few years, then gets first dibs at him back in the NFL.


Only problem with that is you can't really plan to hire someone with the idea that you'll let them go as soon as another coach hints at coming for the NFL.

Stephen Ross is the biggest athletic donor at U of M. If he wanted Harbaugh, then he would've done it this past offseason. He's not going to cherrypick him from Ann Arbor. 

He also has a franchise with his name on it. The mediocre results we see year after year from the Miami Dolphins are a reflection of his competency as an owner. Don't you think that eats at billionaire types like Ross? Don't you think he would do anything in his power to turn things around and put him in the best position possible to hold up that Lombardi?

I don't know the guy, but doubt it. It's a business, first. He's still raking in bread, new stadium with renovations. With all the money that he pours into Michigan, it's clear that he's passionate about that. 

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

USC gotta at least kick the tires on Kyle Whittingham

It's what the UCLA boards have been saying since Sark's first loss this season. He'd be a solid hire.

 

[00david00]

USC gotta at least kick the tires on Kyle Whittingham

got to. make him say no.

 

[IATT]

Very true.. But I could see Dolphins owner opening up the vault in a couple years

Does JH strike you as a guy who is in it for the money? He's even said that he's not worth the amount of money Michigan is paying him. The guy lives and breathes football. He's got more than enough money.

Stephen Ross could "break the bank" in 5 years and be dead 2 years later and JH could be stuck with another douche bag owner like in SF..

I think it could just be a mutually beneficial thing.. If Harbaugh wins with the wolverines or get the program on the right track again and wants to go back to the league again, could easily see Ross chasing him again

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

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USC's hiring history since John McKay.

 

[00david00]

Ed O was interim, not a hire

Actually a lot of bs on there

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

Ed O was interim, not a hire

Actually a lot of bs on there

What specifically is BS?

 

[nako xl]

A LOT of b.s. And Clay's 1-0.

Mora isn't coming to SC (or interviewing for the job let alone being offered it. I'd like to think after Sumlin, Haden wouldn't be that stupid to offer and be used for a raise.)

Whittingham and Patterson and, it's looking more and more likely, Herman will all be contacted if only to gauge interest but I doubt any will come. Whittingham definitely won't. He's like Petersen. The spotlight of LA doesn't appeal to him.

 

[00david00]

Can't comment on the older guys. Calling O and Helton hires. If Helton is a hire now was he one when he coached LV bowl after O left? Most of the carrol section especially when nobody at the time thought sanctions would be that severe.

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

Can't comment on the older guys. Calling O and Helton hires. If Helton is a hire now was he one when he coached LV bowl after O left? Most of the carrol section especially when nobody at the time thought sanctions would be that severe.

Okay, so aside from the interim/hire bit and Carrol's portion you don't object?

 

[nako xl]

^ What david said. That info graphic isn't serious.

 

[00david00]

Like I said, can't comment on the older hires, I don't really know the history. Don't object to the sark/kiffin write up.

 

[651akathepaul]

Can't comment on the older guys. Calling O and Helton hires. If Helton is a hire now was he one when he coached LV bowl after O left? Most of the carrol section especially when nobody at the time thought sanctions would be that severe.

Okay, so aside from the interim/hire bit and Carrol's portion you don't object?

It says Carroll was the "forth" choice for the job. Bothers me...Instantly questioned.

 

[00david00]

I'll add that there was more to Kiffin getting fired but basically yeah.

 

[00david00]

Can't comment on the older guys. Calling O and Helton hires. If Helton is a hire now was he one when he coached LV bowl after O left? Most of the carrol section especially when nobody at the time thought sanctions would be that severe.

Okay, so aside from the interim/hire bit and Carrol's portion you don't object?

It says Carroll was the "forth" choice for the job. Bothers me...Instantly questioned.

Carroll was an unpopular hire at the time, lot of folks were wrong on that one.


edit: I just realized "forth"

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

Okay so the graph isn't grammatically put together but I think the heart of it rings true: USC has had instability with head coach hires since McKay.

What was USC in the 80's/90's?

 

[nako xl]

Okay so the graph isn't grammatically put together but I think the heart of it rings true: USC has had instability with head coach hires since McKay.

What was USC in the 80's/90's?

No the info graphic is inaccurate... Robinson wasn't asked to step down for losing 3 games.

He left to go to the NFL after winning a national championship then came back.

USC has had 7 different head coaches, 3 national titles and 16 Pac 12 championships (and Kiffin's 11-2 season) in 40 years since McKay(my numbers may be off I didn't check them.)

I don't get the point of the chart?

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

Okay so the graph isn't grammatically put together but I think the heart of it rings true: USC has had instability with head coach hires since McKay.

What was USC in the 80's/90's?

No the info graphic is inaccurate... Robinson wasn't asked to step down for losing 3 games.

He left to go to the NFL after winning a national championship then came back.

USC has had 7 different head coaches, 3 national titles and 16 Pac 12 championships (and Kiffin's 11-2 season) in 40 years since McKay(my numbers may be off I didn't check them.)

I don't get the point of the chart?

So USC gets all that glory with Carroll and the rest of those guys are bums (per apparently USC's boosters that demand nationally competitive teams, not conference titles). Carroll, who was their fourth choice when hiring him?

Point of the chart is that USC's football hiring is as panicked as UCLA's basketball hiring since Wooden. Nothing less than what Pete delivered would satisfy USC, and their process since Carroll demonstrates that. Good luck living with that.

 

[nako xl]

John Robinson won a national championship. USC has made as many or less coaching changes in the past 40 years as the rest of the country.

I don't get the point of the chart? People have been fired? Ok.

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

John Robinson won a national championship. USC has made as many or less coaching changes in the past 40 years as the rest of the country.

I don't get the point of the chart? People have been fired? Ok.

To me it speaks to instability/under achieving coaching hires. If you don't see that then okay, not something I'm going to argue with you over.

 

[nako xl]

I understand you want to make a point but, again, you're ignoring that in that 38 year span there have been 3 national championships, 16 conference championships, and numerous top 5 finishes.

I get that you want to imply there's been a string of ****** finishes, I do, but name ten programs with similar accolades over the same span of time. Can you name 5?

Some of the coaches were meh, sure. As is the case with every program. I don't see what the chart highlights that you won't find anywhere else.

What would UCLA's chart look like?

 

[00david00]

I don't think anybody would argue we've been very unstable since Carroll left, and a lot of it is our own fault. But your chart was super biased and false in some cases (Robinson stepping down to admin when he went to the NFL?), painting a picture that nothing positive has happened since McKay.

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

I understand you want to make a point but, again, you're ignoring that in that 38 year span there have been 3 national championships, 16 conference championships, and numerous top 5 finishes.

I get that you want to imply there's been a string of ****** finishes, I do, but name ten programs with similar accolades over the same span of time. Can you name 5?

Some of the coaches were meh, sure. As is the case with every program. I don't see what the chart highlights that you won't find anywhere else.

What would UCLA's chart look like?

UCLA's chart would be terrible, but UCLA is not a football blue blood.

My point, again, is that in spite of these accolades USC has (the greatest of which came with one coach among all those listed), it's not enough. It always has to be a home run hire for USC, and all the blue bloods. If it's not then there's just dissatisfaction and then the next coach is just a season (or half season in the case of Southern Cal) from being fired. Who wants that?

I can see how this is picking on USC when it's true for the other major programs, but the topic at hand is specifically about them.

 

[robotea]

the hell is going on here.

 

[nako xl]

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[h2]Oregon 4-Star Commit Openly Recruiting USC’s Commits To Play For Ducks[/h2]
Matt Lombardi

Given the turmoil at USC right now, a number of players who were committed to (or thinking about committing to) the Trojans have reconsidered their decisions. Lamar Winston Jr – who is committed to play for Oregon – is jumping at the opportunity to sway some of his fellow athletes to join him on the Ducks.

Monday, hours after USC head coach Steve Sarkisian was fired, Winston openly recruited USC’s commits to switch sides and instead commit to the Ducks.

‏@LamarWinstonJr

To all you USC commits, Oregon has a home for you, don't be shy.. Come join the family

... We'd love to have you

Winston, a four-star athlete, committed to Oregon this past July. Could his recruiting help the program land a few more top players?

How stable is Helfricht's future looking?