NT's All Time NBA ReDraft Thread: GR8 Write Up Page 187, Bracket Final Vote

[awwsome]

I really hope I don't regret skipping this guy, hopefully he'll be there next round.

Anyways. Bob McAdoo

WOW.

 

[proshares]

Ah, I was close to taking Sam Jones with my last pick but thought he'd make it to me. Nice pick.

 

[the gr8est]

It's kind of like in the Book of Basketball when Simmons had that chapter on drafting a single team from throughout NBA history who he would choose to play a Monstars-type team in an Earth on the line basketball game... He chose which players he would pick, but he specified a single season for each player he chose. 

His rule was that he has a time machine to select any player throughout NBA history who he wants, but he had to choose one season for each particular player. This placed a greater importance on a player's peak than a player's longevity. Which made it different from his Greatest Players of All Time rankings. Which obviously focused more on entire careers.

Then he explained why he chose that player's season. It added a strategic element to the equation as well. Like it's easy to just choose MJ, but much harder to specify if it's the 90-93 MJ you want based on team fit or the 96-98 MJ.

I liked that system. Feel like it would work well for something like this. Idk, that's just the way I have been evaluating the picks as we have gone on.

 

[japanair21]

JA, where do you want these guys slotted????????????????????

PG Isiah Thomas
SG
SF Elgin Baylor
PF Jerry Lucas
C
B Bob McAdoo
B
B
B
B
B
B

McAdoo will be my center. Everything else is right

 

[big j 33]

Sam Jones is a good pick, I was kind of hoping he'd make it back to me.

 

[rck3sactown]

I was thinking about taking Jones>Petrovic

 

[japanair21]

WOW.

Wow good or wow bad?

 

[nick.]

Sam Jones kinda gets overlooked on those great Celtics teams

good pick this this late in the draft

 

[Chester McFloppy]

@SoHi 23 you're up

@LiCeNseD To BaLL on deck

 

[be easy]

Jones is another one of those guys who benefited from playing with Russell and those vaunted Celtics teams, but truthfully, his game would have translated to any era. He was like the Reggie Miller/Rip Hamilton precursor at SG except he wasn't as good a shooter as Miller was.

Jones's bank shot was MONEY.

 

[be easy]

Sam Jones kinda gets overlooked on those great Celtics teams

good pick this this late in the draft

Agreed, and appreciate it.

 

[JD617]

And as far as guys like Roy, Hill, and Penny go compared to Wiggins... Roy, Hill, and Penny were all top 10 NBA players at some point in their careers and the best/2nd best player on perennial playoff teams. Wiggins is nowhere near that yet.

Its not like anyone is drafting Greg Oden based off his potential. That would be a different story.

Comparison doesn't make sense... Oden's career is over and he never reached his potential. Wiggins still can.

It's somewhat of a risk because I'm drafting him on future expectations instead of what's already happened, but so what. I don't think it's that big of a deal.

 

[sea manup]

artest should have been drafted a lot earlier

17ppg scorer, top 3 all time wing defender, comes through in the clutch in game 7 

 

[seymore cake]

Artest should've been drafted where exactly?

We're in the middle of the fourth round... Where do you think Artest should've been drafted?

 

[statis22]

Kemp in the 96 Finals.

I'm digging my team so far.

 

[rck3sactown]

Can I pick yet

 

[sea manup]

Artest should've been drafted where exactly?

We're in the middle of the fourth round... Where do you think Artest should've been drafted?

easily take him over ben wallace who was in the 3rd im pretty sure

 

[bhzmafia14]

With the center position being so deep and so many elite scorers in this draft, I just wanted to assure myself I could defend them on the perimeter . I'm pretty confident in getting the center I need sooner or later. You really only need them to do a couple of things for you.

 

[the gr8est]

 
Comparison doesn't make sense... Oden's career is over and he never reached his potential. Wiggins still can.

It's somewhat of a risk because I'm drafting him on future expectations instead of what's already happened, but so what. I don't think it's that big of a deal.

The Oden example is obviously an extreme. I'm just saying that IMO it doesn't make much sense to draft players based on potential in this format. It's too hard to evaluate. Especially because something like Oden could easily still happen to Wiggins before he even begins to reach his peak. How do you evaluate that right now after this draft? It's all speculation and hype. You might as well draft Ben Simmons.

Drafting players like Penny and Roy and Grant Hill is totally different because they all had some dominant seasons of being top 10 NBA players before their careers fell off because of injuries. Even Cousins just had a monster year to go off.

When evaluating a player like Wiggins, the only tangible results you have to go by is one season in which he averaged 17 PPG on a 15 win team. If you were going to put all these teams in a tournament right now using the best season of every single player drafted thus far's career, Wiggins would by far be the odd man out.

But whatever. If you want to draft youngins and pick up this thread in 5 years than by all means, do you. I'm not gonna take this thing too seriously. Just saying it how I see it.

 

[statis22]

With the center position being so deep and so many elite scorers in this draft, I just wanted to assure myself I could defend them on the perimeter . I'm pretty confident in getting the center I need sooner or later. You really only need them to do a couple of things for you.

I think I know which center you're eyeing if you take one with your next pick.

I think I want that guy too.

 

[bhzmafia14]

I think I know which center you're eyeing if you take one with your next pick.

I think I want that guy too.

 

[worldbeefreeg]

DAAAAAAAAAAAMN I thought I was going to have a chance at Artest in the next round.

That was going to be my pick

 

[sea manup]

there are so many guys who can score 30-40 points without playing any defense 

ak47 and ron ron are a lot more valuable than the bernard kings of the world 

 

[worldbeefreeg]

Just praying one of my three guys are still available

 

[the gr8est]

 
there are so many guys who can score 30-40 points without playing any defense 

ak47 and ron ron are a lot more valuable than the bernard kings of the world 

Go watch some highlights of BK in the 84 playoffs. Dude beat Isiah and the Pistons and almost took down the champion Celtics practically by himself. Tell me the so many guys who can do that.