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I respect your opinion but there really wasnt a lot of homerism in what I said. I could have easily went with homerism and mentioned where I felt Melo should really golol ), but it reached a certain point where it just didnt make logical sense to me as a basketball fan, which in turn got me agitated as a Melo/Knicks fan.
Melo is only an inch or so smaller than Jamison and has shown the ability to be an excellent stretch 4. He is superior to Jamison in pretty much every single aspect of the game and Jamison was never in Melo's class as a player. I don't think that part is worth arguing because you even admitted as such.
I get that FIBA is pretty irrelevant for Melo looking at stats an all that, HOWEVER I brought it up and think that it holds relevance in the sense that Olympic Melo is an example that Melo can not only fit, but STRIVE, as a complimentary scorer/stretch 4 when playing alongside the most elite talent. I think in that sense, Melo has proven himself to be a lot more than a ball dominating volume scorer when he is surrounded by superior talent and doesnt need to dominate the ball offensively to be effective.
On the other hand, Jamison has only proven to be a solid stretch 4/ defensive liability on a lower-mid tier playoff team in the weak Eastern Conference, and his teams never sniffed the playoffs when he was the go-to guy when he was younger. He was always the classic solid numbers, ****** team, borderline all-star, kind of player. You really think Jamison is that stretch 4 you are looking for surrounded by HOF talent? Or would you prefer Melo, who has proven to be an elite stretch 4 among HOFers?
In that regard, I think Melo would have been a better forward to pair with Scottie and the rest of your guys. And unlike Jamison, Melo was able to take his squad to the WCF as the go-to guy (a couple plays away from upsetting the eventual champion Lakers in '09) while Jamison was never able to lead his team to the playoffs in a similar position. IMO, Melo has shown he is better than Jamison, even in a complimentary role.
There are two things here:
1. Individual Melo vs. Individual Jamison. Like I said...there is ZERO debate. Melo is 10x the player that Antawn Jamison is. It's not even debatable.
2. Team-fit Melo vs. Team-fit Jamison. This is where it gets murky. Look at my squad.
Sabonis
PF
Pippen
Richmond
PG
There is zero logical reason for me to plug in a sometimes stretch 4 in Melo for this team. He's ball-dominant. For the reasons I already outlined, Jamison is a better fit FOR THIS TEAM because he has proven he can be an efficient scorer in the NBA while not being the go-to player (primarily playing PF).
You bring up FIBA Melo...this is not who anyone participating in this draft would be selecting. The Melo that would be drafted would be a ball-dominant, ISO-heavy, player. If you have a team that is lacking a SF and is going to have trouble scoring the ball, yea...by all means, select Melo. Makes perfect sense.
If you have a team like mine that is strong defensively, unselfish offensively, but could use a scoring boost...Jamison is a fantastic fit.
I'm just going to go ahead an quote
seymore cake
, because he perfectly summed up what I've been trying to say in only 1 line:We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one, bro.
Now, I haven't looked at other rosters...but maybe you should @ some other GMs and see why they took certain SFs over Melo. I think my reasoning makes sense.
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