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But if we're just looking at peak/single year/shorter time frames, what does the body of work really matter?
Rudy gobert has one year under his belt. That's not even a peak or anything.
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Jason Williams, PG.
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This is what he did to The Glove's knees.

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But if we're just looking at peak/single year/shorter time frames, what does the body of work really matter?

Some people are looking at the draft that way.
Others are looking at careers as a whole.
Some are drafting based on potential.

Honestly, it's up to the individual. It's THEIR team and they can draft how they wish. /shrug
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I'm speaking generally, not about Gobert.

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Rudy gobert has one year under his belt. That's not even a peak or anything.

That one year is still one of the best defensive seasons in history, so who cares.
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Wow Jason Williams.

I'm trying to be less negataive so I'll keep quiet.
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cant wait for some guy this year to put up 13-8-6 and have someone try to convince me that its a historical season for some reason 

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Wow Jason Williams.

I'm trying to be less negataive so I'll keep quiet.

I don't want your lame *** opinion so yes please shut the asterisk up.
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I'm already over this draft. Can't wait till the baseball one starts.
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I'm already over this draft

I'm with you bro.
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For example, BHZ has a solid defensive squad, but I look at it, and think he would still struggle to score some points. Payton is good, but not elite as a shooter. Ron? I mean...... laugh.gif He can bully, but I don't want him spotting up. Roy, sort of negates what Payton offers, because Roy needed the ball in his hands. Payton isn't going to be out there feeding "shooters" like Roy and Ron, right?

Karl can score, no doubt, Payton is gonna run the pick and roll with him, same as Stock did? nerd.gif

Every game going to be in the 80's and Payton, Roy and Karl were still good/great scorers. Plus, I'll address a few things with my later picks nerd.gif

I honestly don't see them struggling to score, though. Payton was the leader of one of the fastest offenses in the 90's and an underrated facilitator. The benefit of having both he and Roy in the backcourt is that either player can run the pick n roll, while Roy is a good enough shooter to spot up as well. Plus, it just gives me some versatility based on what I do with the bench in the upcoming rounds. You gonna see me work plehboi pimp.gif
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I'm already over this draft. Can't wait till the baseball one starts.

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I'm already over this draft. Can't wait till the baseball one starts.

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We consistently have legends talked down on because of the era they played in while hyping up guys for playing in an era that's terry cloth, full of selfishness, flopping and lackadaisical defense. It's ridiculous.
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Jason Williams isn't a good pick but keep the crowd entertained I guess...

My pick: Thunder Dan Majerle

Premier 3 & D guy on a Suns team that really was a predecessor to the small ball we see today. Dan gives me an elite three point shooter combined with All-NBA caliber defense.
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who's running it?

I am
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Dude thinks his basketball opinion is gods gift to earth.

Shut the hell up as let us pick.

Half the dudes on your own squad are boring as duck and none of us would ever pay to go watch them play ball.

So address your own **** before you critique others teams
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Jason Williams isn't a good pick but keep the crowd entertained I guess...

My pick: Thunder Dan Majerle

Premier 3 & D guy on a Suns team that really was a predecessor to the small ball we see today. Dan gives me an elite three point shooter combined with All-NBA caliber defense.
Dan was gonna be my guy. Nice pick.
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For example, BHZ has a solid defensive squad, but I look at it, and think he would still struggle to score some points. Payton is good, but not elite as a shooter. Ron? I mean...... laugh.gif He can bully, but I don't want him spotting up. Roy, sort of negates what Payton offers, because Roy needed the ball in his hands. Payton isn't going to be out there feeding "shooters" like Roy and Ron, right?

Karl can score, no doubt, Payton is gonna run the pick and roll with him, same as Stock did? nerd.gif

Every game going to be in the 80's and Payton, Roy and Karl still great scorers. Plus, I'll address a few things with my later picks nerd.gif

I honestly don't see them struggling to score, though. Payton was the leader of one of the fastest offenses in the 90's and an underrated facilitator. The benefit of having both he and Roy in the backcourt is that either player can run the pick n roll, while Roy is a good enough shooter to spot up as well. Plus, it just gives me some versatility based on what I do with the bench in the upcoming rounds. You gonna see me work plehboi pimp.gif

Make no mistake, I did not intend to say your team isn't good, or any of that. You have a helluva squad, and I have no doubt you will finish it off strong. I was simply speaking stylistically.

Roy isn't really a "knockdown" shooter, off the catch. Nor is Payton. So you kind of render one of them useless in a given set. Defensively, I'm playin off the one without the ball, DARING him to catch and shoot. That's how I attack you.

Granted, having both gives you the versatility and depth to use either or, I was just using your team as an example of fits and such. I probably should have just used a made up example like I did with AI, Kobe, Melo, etc. laugh.gif
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who's running it?

I am

cool, lemme know when you're starting it up

i def want in

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Wow Jason Williams.

I'm trying to be less negataive so I'll keep quiet.

I don't want your lame *** opinion so yes please shut the asterisk up.
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Dude thinks his basketball opinion is gods gift to earth.

Shut the hell up as let us pick.

Half the dudes on your own squad are boring as duck and none of us would ever pay to go watch them play ball.

So address your own **** before you critique others teams

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Wow Jason Williams.

I'm trying to be less negataive so I'll keep quiet.

I think he made that pick to specifically rustle your jimmies. laugh.gif
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Jason Williams isn't a good pick but keep the crowd entertained I guess...

My pick: Thunder Dan Majerle

Premier 3 & D guy on a Suns team that really was a predecessor to the small ball we see today. Dan gives me an elite three point shooter combined with All-NBA caliber defense.
Nicely done.
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I like the Majerle pick. Had him on my board laugh.gif
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*Confidently picks Jason Williams.*


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*Confidently picks Jason Williams.*

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I like the Majerle pick. Had him on my board laugh.gif


Really solid pick.
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If others are picking "selfish and flopping" players then that's good for your team... more old school legends to pick from. How is that a problem?

 

It's less about talking down about legends and more about most of us haven't seen guys from the 60s, 70s, hell even the 80s play except in highlights. So a lot of people will favor those who they've seen, the modern era focuses more on 3 point shooting, not to mention, the game has improved. That's not to say everyone who played in the 60s-80s are inherently worse, which should go without saying, but just because you could handcheck and clothesline someone on defense does not mean you were a better defender. Tougher and more physical? Perhaps, but between schemes, style of play, etc., the defense is different this era. It's less important that your big man can bodycheck someone as it's important he can switch on a pick and roll or cover a stretch 4.

 

The same criticism can be applied to someone picking a modern guy with a limited resume.. others could say "Well you've never seen player X play in person or even highlights, you're just going off stats or what others have said". There's not a right or wrong way to do this so what's the point in constantly complaining about how others are drafting. It's for fun and debate. If you like more old school guys, then it's a good thing that Rudy Gobert/Jason Williams/etc. get picked, more legends available for your team.

 

TL;DR... stop complaining and just draft your team how you like it. Ditto for people commenting on picks, it's more fun to have debate and discussion on picks than to just make a selection and keep it moving. Stop worrying about it if you like your team that's the fun part.

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