NT's All Time NBA ReDraft Thread: GR8 Write Up Page 187, Bracket Final Vote

No rules to judging or drafting, that's part of the whole experience. Of course it'll lead to countless arguments of "X was better than Y in their primes, but Y was better overall" and so on. 

For example, I valued longevity when I picked Duncan over Bird. Duncan has 500 more games and over 11,000 more minutes than Bird. Now some might not pay as much attention to longevity and prefer a guy who was dominant over a shorter period of time but was plagued with injuries later on in their career.


That pick makes sense in both ways anyway though.

Bird peak and Duncan's peak are pretty similar in quality of play but Duncan definitely did it over a longer period.
 
just like why a team of washed up players is winning the 2015 redraft 80% of the time on the simulation

its not about who you think is actually the best player, its understanding the winning process and exploiting it 
 
Yeah, my point was that Duncan's longevity was almost like a tiebreaker for me. All things equal, that made a difference. 

Injuries are a part of the game, of course, but it isn't McGrady's fault he got injured so often.. it doesn't change his ability or talents, just his accomplishments.
 
Older guys SWEAR by IT. They praise him to no end for being the "little guy" that could carry a team. And MJ hated him, that kinda says somethin to me about him. I know that's trivial, just from everything I've ever witnessed NBA wise.

Thats why I don't want to dismiss it out of hand but...but that "carry" narrative is used so often.

Pistons were great because of their defense and redounding but stuff like that never gets rememebred
 
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Older guys SWEAR by IT. They praise him to no end for being the "little guy" that could carry a team. And MJ hated him, that kinda says somethin to me about him. I know that's trivial, just from everything I've ever witnessed NBA wise.

Thats why I don't want to dismiss it out of hand but...but that "carry" narrative is used so often.

Pistons were great because of their defense and redounding but stuff like that never gets rememebred

I think the injured ankle, Finals takeover game carries all that weight. Might be the only game he ever carried the team, but it was one of the most watched Pistons games of all time, so it stuck.
 
CP - how heavily does an EXTREMELY accomplished international career play into the re-draft? My possible selection played in the NBA, but was much better internationally.

*no, it's not Melo.
 
CP - how heavily does an EXTREMELY accomplished international career play into the re-draft? My possible selection played in the NBA, but was much better internationally.

*no, it's not Melo.

It's game, IMO. Who does, and doesn't have game? Everyone in this thread knows who has/had game. Who can play, who can't, what can they do, how do they fit your roster? Etc.



As an example, I will drop a name that isn't really likely in this draft, if you have a bunch of scorers/shooters, perimeter guys, and need a big that just does two things, and you take Kwame Brown. Can he do that job? Defend and rebound, all he has to do for your particular roster? Then you make your case based on what you know/have seen or read.

So if the sensitive little Euro you want to take is on the board, by all means take him and have the info to back up what you plan on usin him for. Majority of us in here should know if you're stretchin his truth out a lil bit, or if he really could be a valuable contributor in an All Time lineup.
 
CP - how heavily does an EXTREMELY accomplished international career play into the re-draft? My possible selection played in the NBA, but was much better internationally.

*no, it's not Melo.
I think I know who you're talking about and if it's him I love the idea.
 
Thanks, C CP1708 - and I'm about to turn in b/c I have an early day tomorrow. I'll PM you my choice in a few.

CP - how heavily does an EXTREMELY accomplished international career play into the re-draft? My possible selection played in the NBA, but was much better internationally.

*no, it's not Melo.
I think I know who you're talking about and if it's him I love the idea.

:nerd:

Big time roll of the dice...but, it's all in good fun. Thread equivalent of a flex bomb :lol:
 
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[quote name="CP1708"][quote name="JJs07"]CP - how heavily does an EXTREMELY accomplished international career play into the re-draft? My possible selection played in the NBA, but was much better internationally.

*no, it's not Melo.[/quote]

It's game, IMO. Who does, and doesn't have game? Everyone in this thread knows who has/had game. Who can play, who can't, what can they do, how do they fit your roster? Etc.



As an example, I will drop a name that isn't really likely in this draft, if you have a bunch of scorers/shooters, perimeter guys, and need a big that just does two things, and you take Kwame Brown. Can he do that job? Defend and rebound, all he has to do for your particular roster? Then you make your case based on what you know/have seen or read.

So if the sensitive little Euro you want to take is on the board, by all means take him and have the info to back up what you plan on usin him for. Majority of us in here should know if you're stretchin his truth out a lil bit, or if he really could be a valuable contributor in an All Time lineup.[/quote]CP had already asked me about being a judge, and I want to make this clear:

I don't know how the judging will work, but if anyone 'gets' Kwame, they will get all of my last place votes, for everything.

They will get my last place vote for PG, regardless of who all of their PGs are.

Everything.

For every category, I will automatically list that person's team last, then go up.
 
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[quote name="JohnnyRedStorm"][quote name="JJs07"]CP - how heavily does an EXTREMELY accomplished international career play into the re-draft? My possible selection played in the NBA, but was much better internationally.

*no, it's not Melo.[/quote]I think I know who you're talking about and if it's him I love the idea.[/quote]I know exactly who it is. It's so obvious. :lol:
 
[quote name="JohnnyRedStorm"][quote name="JJs07"]CP - how heavily does an EXTREMELY accomplished international career play into the re-draft? My possible selection played in the NBA, but was much better internationally.

*no, it's not Melo.
I think I know who you're talking about and if it's him I love the idea.[/quote]I know exactly who it is. It's so obvious. :lol:[/quote]

Not as obvious as you think. :wink:
 
I used Kwame as an example of someone that I feel secure in assuming he will NOT be drafted, but in terms of (not) name dropping, that's why I used him. :lol:
 
Well I already know Vader isn't giving any points to my team.
 
It's 10:30pm on the East Coast, there shouldn't be a clock right now 
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