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I'll agree with the part about officers getting more extensive background checks. Just from experience (one of my exes became a cop), it seems like they put people with degrees through the ringer to become cops, yet people without them they bring them right in as if it was a Craigslist ad (yes, I know having a degree doesn't automatically mean you have sense, nor does not having one mean you don't). But just from dating her throughout that time, certain things she was telling me about her going into the academy was very off-putting, most notably, officers seem to be legit taught to discriminate no matter what. How are you supposed to be able to uphold the law when they try to embed in you to basically be bigots from day one? That's a damn travesty. It also doesn't help that a good amount of officers become officers because they were bullied growing up, and wearing that shield gives them a reason to have a chip on their shoulder the entire time. That's why you see them acting a *** all the time, cause they're having flashbacks from their youth of getting picked on. Add in some other factors, and you have basically a bunch of unlit fireworks with badges and guns on their hips, ready for you to give them any reason to go off.
 
the minute the notion a society with no police is mentioned people are immediately filled with fear. 
 
i know my views seem extreme to the uninitiated but you gotta at least tell me what it is you dont agree with and why?

Because the problem is not with the institutions of "government" or "the police". Getting rid of those institutions won't just instantly solve the problem or make things better.

It is that the people within our government, and the people with our police are failing us. And worst the laws we citizens allowed the government to pass ( and many support might I add) make things worst. As they enable these clowns to do their foolishness with impunity

People don't even want to try to fix those institutions

-Secondly, how is gonna be in charge of these "peace officers". Who is gonna pay for their training, make sure their mentally capable, and decide which forms of "legal force" are acceptable and which ones are not. BTW who is gonna pay for this? And if everyone decides the community as a whole, how will that money be collected and how would we make sure everyone pays that tax money

Then what if a certain region doesn't want peace officers, that means that place is allowed to live with no one trying to keep the peace or no one judging what is acceptable behavior

Because I should have the freedom to molest kids, rape, murder and assault folk at will right. The police and the government shouldn't have a say over me and tell me those actions are wrong, right? I know you'll counter with "as long as you're not hurting anyone" but who draws the line, and who enforces it.

Matter of fact, who maintains the roads, who runs the schools, who controls air traffic, or feed the poor, who insects our food, who funds some of the most essential research on the planet. I mean the internet as we know it might not even exist if the government didn't obstruct someone's freedom

From you previous post, and talking to other people that sound like you it just seem your spitting the same ole libertarian utopia steez. That once people can agree on the a few concepts that everyone can live in peace and we don't need some of our more traditional institutions.

And I suppose to believe that is more doable than reforming the current systems.

And yes I am fearful. Fearful of of jumping to a system that is unproven, untested, based strictly in theory and is being pushed strangely by a large number of white nationalist. :lol:

-You can pick and choose times where the government took away someone freedom, and I can pick and choose times when the government extended it. And we can go back and forth all day

It is not only that I find you ideas extreme, but also unrealistic, and short sighted.

IMO people should be working to improve the institutions of government (making it truly representative and responsive to society needs/wants) and the police (equal treatment for all people, and know they are providing a service for to the community, not fight a pseudo war)

But I know you're probably gonna come back with that I'm ignorant to some sort of information or enlightenment that allows you to view the world as it really is.
 
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Seriously? You honestly think if there was no police that the crime rates wouldn't sky rocket? :rofl:

So this suffices as an answer to the question, what do police do to protect my freedom? I'm not gonna insult your comprehension skills I'm just gonna assume there's a misunderstanding here.

Should I ask the question again?
much easier to call something dumb than to answer the actual question.

i went out today, had a great day, had no problems whatsoever.      how did a cop or cops protect my freedom? i'm legitimately curious. if i can get a logical answer, i'll tip my hat to the offcers who protected my freedom today.

Can you honestly say that your day to day life if there was 0 police presence in america?
Do you think people commit the same crimes now with a police presence, as they would if there was no police, meaning 0 consequences?
If you answered yes to any of the questions, you need a reality check
 
Because the problem is not with the institutions of "government" or "the police". Getting rid of those institutions won't just instantly solve the problem or make things better.

 
im fully aware of that and i never said that.
It is that the people within our government, and the people with our police are failing us. And worst the laws we citizens allowed the government to pass ( and many support might I add) make things worst.

 
 to this i say that we're failing ourselves 1, by living content in ignorance and 2, by allowing the laws to be passed.
Then what if a certain region doesn't want peace officers, that means that place is allowed to live with no one trying to keep the peace or no one judging what is acceptable behavior
 
militia. its the communities responsibility to work together to keep the peace protecting themselves and eachother. thats what a militia is its designed to defend against standing armies. the only "judging of acceptable behavior" that needs to be done is internal and when somebody is violating others. your idea of what acceptable behavior is isnt valid for the next man unless they are violating another sentient being.
Because I should have the freedom to molest kids, rape, murder and assault folk at will right. The police and the government shouldn't have a say over me and tell me those actions are wrong, right? I know you'll counter with "as long as you're not hurting anyone" but who draws the line, and who enforces it.
 
the laws i refer to arent man made and need to be understood by and instilled in the youth from the jump. these laws are immutable and are enforced by nature. primary psychopathy isnt inherent in human nature its a result of upbringing and environment. if a person is brought up in a poison environment like most of us are, the result you see is the world we live in. so no we cant just remove the police force in an environment of mentally ill and psychotic people. thats the point i was trying to make we have to start by educating ourselves on truth and natural law. it starts with us not the cops. we cant expect that entity to change, we have to.
Matter of fact, who maintains the roads, who runs the schools, who controls air traffic, or feed the poor, who insects our food, who funds some of the most essential research on the planet. I mean the internet as we know it might not even exist if the government didn't obstruct someone's freedom

From you previous post, and talking to other people that sound like you it just seem your spitting the same ole libertarian utopia steez. That once people can agree on the a few concepts that everyone can live in peace and we don't need some of our more traditional institutions.
 
government isnt needed for any of that. you act like theres no other way possible to get those things done. and im not preaching a utopia thats not realistic. im pushing for a natural balance theres a difference. 
And I suppose to believe that is more doable than reforming the current systems.

And yes I am fearful. Fearful of of jumping to a system that is unproven, untested, based strictly in theory and is being pushed strangely by a large number of white nationalist.
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-You can pick and choose times where the government took away someone freedom, and I can pick and choose times when the government extended it. And we can go back and forth all day

It is not only that I find you ideas extreme, but also unrealistic, and short sighted.
 
i never said jump right into anything its a gradual change that starts with us. reforming the current system is not an option. we can try that but this system has a destination plan and theyre not changing their end game. if you think otherwise then i dont know what to tell you. my ideas are no more unrealistic than yours if you think government is going to wake up one day and say "oops my bad". their plan hasnt changed since its inception i dont understand why ppl think it would change now. 

and short sighted? i mentioned that this will take a lot of work and wont happen in our lifetime. just as the government isnt going to become a non corrupt and moral system in our lifetime. 
 
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they dont do stuff like this anymore. it hasnt gotten worse. the government is here to protect us yall.
 
Keep believing what you believe pa. I'll keep thinking it is sort of ridiculous, and I am sure you'll do the same about me

Simple

-BTW, I have written about the reforms I would like to see made to government plenty of times. So please don't act like I'm sitting here doing nothing and hoping for a our government starts functioning better.
 
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I apologize to any jewish people I may have offended. I wasn't trying to throw every Israeli under the bus but I was trying to engage on the OP concern about Palestinians since he seemed so enamored by the African American and European American plight in this country. I just don't like stones being thrown from glass houses when my African and Palestinian brothers in Israel are being treated like gum beneath a shoe. My original post had terrible wording that may have came off like I may have been anti jew. I am anti supremacy against any people specifically people of color who are being attacked all around the world. 

Again apologies to any jewish lurkers who felt I was coming at them. 

الحمد لله رب العالمين
 
I apologize to any jewish people I may have offended. I wasn't trying to throw every Israeli under the bus but I was trying to engage on the OP concern about Palestinians since he seemed so enamored by the African American and European American plight in this country. I just don't like stones being thrown from glass houses when my African and Palestinian brothers in Israel are being treated like gum beneath a shoe. My original post had terrible wording that may have came off like I may have been anti jew. I am anti supremacy against any people specifically people of color who are being attacked all around the world. 


Again apologies to any jewish lurkers who felt I was coming at them. 


الحمد لله رب العالمين

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I can just picture you at a press conference giving a classic "my bad, went too far" apology


-I translated the last part :rofl:
 
What's the problem brah?

Though you were just referencing the end of Mike Tyson's famous "I want to eat his children" rant :lol:

Thought it was kinda random, but it is nice you're paying homage :smokin
 
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