++Houston Texans Thread Offseason 2016++ Pre-Season @ Dallas

thenewjs23 said:
So, we got a new qb.
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Well, looks like they're definitely going all in too with these other two signings. Seems like they don't want Osweiler to die out there :lol: :pimp:

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Combined with Lamar Miller, I'm loving the additions. They make sense. You needed a QB, and you got one that's young with an upside, and has gotten some wins. You sign a more than solid RB to replace Foster as much as he can, and you sign a guard and center from other teams in order to replace your own. Not bad at all.
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Didn't realize how fast the draft was coming up :lol: :lol: preseason schedule is out today

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Also, here's the full list of guys we've re-signed:

Houston (CBS HOUSTON) – The Houston Texans have retained free agent Safety Quintin Demps the 9th year player tweeted on Thursday.

Demps came into the Texans during training camp in 2015 and ended up finishing the season as the team’s starting safety.

Demps, 30, started 13 games for the Texans and had 35 tackles, he added two fumble recoveries, one returned for a touchdown and one interception for the season.

Quintin is added to the 10 other players the Texans have re-signed this offseason:
G/T Jeff Adams (6-7, 305) Contract Extension
CB A.J. Bouye (6-0, 191) Restricted
T Chris Clark (6-5, 305) Unrestricted
RB Jonathan Grimes (5-10, 209) Free Agent
CB Charles James (5-9, 179) Contract Extension
P Shane Lechler (6-2, 237) Unrestricted
K Nick Novak (6-0, 198) Unrestricted
S Eddie Pleasant (5-10, 210) Free Agent
QB Brandon Weeden (6-4, 228) Unrestricted
LB John Simon (6-1, 252) Restricted
 
bonafide hustla said:
who we drafting? (1st 3 rounds)
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Most of the sites I've been on have us taking a WR in the first round. I've seen Will Fuller from Notre Dame, Laquon Treadwell from Mississippi, and Josh Doctson from TCU all mentioned. With Jared Crick gone, and not including DEs we already have in rotation, I personally think we should be finding another DE/converted LB to replace him. But I've seen more safety and OL talk (I do think more DB depth would be nice, being that I don't see JJoe being healthy again for a full season). Jeremy Cash from Duke (S) and Nick Martin(center/guard) have been brought up. We all know we badly need some playmakers as far as TEs go too, cause this current roster isn't going to cut it.

Our total draft selections for this year. Need to use them wisely
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If it's not Treadwell or Doctson, I'm not sure I want to take any of those WRs in the 1st. I think we should draft best available, but we've never really been a team to do that
 
An AFC college scouting director was thrilled that Ole Miss WR Laquon Treadwell ran terrible 40-yard dashes during the pre-draft process.
"I loved seeing those [40] times," he said. "I was glad he ran that. Let him fall to us. He's a 4.6 receiver all day, always was. But that's how he plays too, that's the difference. He also plays hot. He wants to get after you. We drafted [name redacted], and it was the same thing: They killed him for the 40s and when we got him we just smiled because we knew we had something special. [Treadwell] is old school. I'll take him." It is true that Treadwell's lack of speed will prevent him from being a home run threat. It also makes it harder for him to seperate. But Treadwell figures to be an elite possession receiver, which is very, very valuable in and of itself. Apr. 22 - 4:26 pm et

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pl...ews.asp?sport=CFB&id=132057&line=55557&spln=1


I hope this is us. Hop ran a 4.57 :nerd:


I'm not even buying any lack of seperation of possession receiver talk, personally. he's dynamic.
 
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I felt the same way when i heard that on the radio :lol: :lol: I like Jaelen Strong and all, be he needs to be the slot guy, and Hopkins definitely needs a game changer on the opposite side of him, so Osweiler doesn't have to just lock on Hopkins for entires games.


HOUSTON -- Texans general manager Rick Smith said he thinks the team could have gotten a pick by trading quarterback Brian Hoyer.

That begs the question of why they didn't wait for that to develop, rather than releasing last year's starting quarterback as they did this past Monday.

Smith used the phrase "in fairness to him" but later said releasing him when they did was the right decision for both Hoyer and for the team.

"There may have been some value there for us organizationally, but we felt like this was the right time," Smith said.

That they made the move when they did gave Hoyer an opportunity to start talking with other teams. He's met with the New York Jets and the Denver Broncos, though no deal seems imminent. It gave the Texans a chance to move on and avoid the awkwardness of having Hoyer in the building during their offseason conditioning program.

The Texans did want to trade Hoyer, but it's more likely an opportunity to do that would have materialized during the draft or at least closer to it as teams set their plans and focus on their needs.

Given their history, I thought the Texans had a shot to accomplish that. They've successfully traded quarterbacks Matt Schaub, Case Keenum, T.J. Yates and Ryan Fitzpatrick, all after it was abundantly clear each player's time with the Texans was finished.

Hoyer had another year left on the two-year, $10.5 million contract he signed in March of 2015. He began and ended the 2015 season as the Texans' starter, but the drama in between, caused in part by his mistakes, made his departure certain. His final act with the Texans was a five-turnover game against the Kansas City Chiefs in the playoffs. The turnovers made it impossible for the Texans to recover.

His fate was sealed even before the Texans signed Brock Osweiler to be their starting quarterback, but that decision made Hoyer an afterthought.
 
The Houston Texans have the 22nd pick in the 2016 NFL Draft. With some areas of need on the roster, who will the team be targeting?

After making the playoffs in 2015 in the very poor AFC South, the Houston Texans didn’t sit on their hands this offseason, as they shocked many with the signing of Brock Osweiler. In recent years, the Texans have had little production from the quarterback position, and they have decided to take a shot on a somewhat unproven quarterback.

The Denver Broncos believed that Osweiler was going to be the successor to Peyton Manning, but a large contract was able to convince Osweiler to leave the defending Super Bowl champions for the Texans.

Osweiler is still a young quarterback with a lot to learn, and the easiest way to help a young quarterback is to surround him with talented players to help make him successful. The Texans have one of the best young receivers in the NFL in DeAndre Hopkins, who will help make the transition easier for Osweiler.

Hopkins had a ridiculous 2015 season even without a good quarterback throwing him the ball, as he totaled 111 receptions, 1,521 receiving yards, and 11 receiving touchdowns. 2015 was certainly the year that Hopkins proved to the NFL that his name deserves to be mentioned with the elite wide receivers in the game.

The Texans selected Hopkins in the first-round of the 2013 NFL Draft, and this year, they should be targeting a wide receiver yet again. Joe Soriano of NFL Spin Zone recently had the Texans drafting a wide receiver in his seven-round mock draft for Houston, and while I agree that they should go wide receiver, it should be Josh Doctson instead of Corey Coleman.

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While Coleman would be a great pick for the Texans as well coming off a 20-touchdown season at Baylor, the size of Doctson is appealing to the next level. Doctson is 6’3” and 195lbs, which would provide Osweiler with a freakishly athletic duo at wide receiver.

In three seasons at TCU, Doctson totaled 2,794 receiving yards, 179 receptions, and 29 receiving touchdowns. In his senior season, Doctson made a nice leap forward, as he totaled 78 receptions, 1,326 receiving yards, and 14 receiving touchdowns.

After Hopkins, there was a noticeable drop off for the Texans in talent at the wide receiver position, as Nate Washington and Cecil Shorts III were decent in 2015, but neither was a true sidekick.

Adding a wide receiver in the draft is almost a guarantee for the Texans in the draft, as they need to give Osweiler his best chance to succeed. In Denver, Osweiler had Demaryius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders, who are one of the best duos in the NFL. The Texans should look to replicate that duo with a great one of their own, as Hopkins and Doctson could be staples of the franchise with Osweiler for years to come.

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Doctson is a hard worker and a high character player who would help the Texans immediately in 2016, as he is a perfect fit.
 
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Houston Texans draft series: DT Vernon Butler

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While the Texans are expected to go offensive for the No. 22 pick, it won’t be too much of a surprise if general manager Rick Smith may decide to bolster the defensive line. Beside the great J.J. Watt and the possibly good Jadeveon Clowney at the ends, there’s uncertainty in the middle with aging Vince Wilfork.

Houston needs a young defensive tackle to anchor the 3-4 defense, and one of the top players at that position in the draft is Vernon Butler.



At La Tech, Butler anchored a Bulldog defense that was in the top 20 in run defense. In 2015, he had 48 tackles, with 10 of them for loss and a career-high four sacks, good to be first-team All-Conference USA. As a junior in 2014, he had a breakout season with 56 tackles and 13.5 tackles for loss.

Strengths and weaknesses

Butler is a big boy, but he can move well and has big and quick hands. He impressed a lot of scouts and the Senior Bowl by being almost unblockable. His weight could be an issue if he lets it get out of control (in other words, no more Mickey D’s runs, Vernon), but he’s a defensive tackle, so that bulk is needed.

Some scouts also say he tends to use his weight against offensive linemen instead of his legs, which is important since there’s a lot more skilled linemen at the pro level. Also, he can get boxed in on double-team blocking. That may not be a problem in Houston if he’s selected, because the one player that will get the double-treatment in No. 99, and that may allow Butler to get free.

Butler’s skill and speed could be more suited for the defensive end position than at nose guard, where your job is to stuff the run and clog up running gaps. But would it be nice to have a versatile lineman that can play tackle and end?

How he fits with the Texans?

With Wilfork nearing the end of his time with the Texans (if not his career), it will be almost necessary for the Texans to get a defensive lineman in the draft. The question is whether they will get one in the first round.

Butler would get good training from Wilfork, who was one of the best nose guards in the NFL when he was with the Patriots earlier in his career. And with Jared Crick not returning, Butler would have a great chance of getting into the rotation. If you add him with Watt and Clowney, the line would be a very quick line, but can Butler be that anchor and make plays while Watt is double-and triple-teamed?

Butler is projected to be a late first-round pick, and with a deep class of defensive linemen, it’s somewhat possible that if Houston went for a wide receiver in the first round, Butler could drop to them at No. 52. If that happens, he would be a great steal and a good fit with the Texans.
 
Houston Texans draft series: Nose tackle Austin Johnson

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With Vince Wilfork on the decline and likely to be gone after the 2016 season, the Texans need to find a replacement in the middle of the defensive line. Fortunately, this is a great draft for defensive linemen. Today we look at a potential heir to Wilfork in Penn State’s Austin Johnson.

Happy Valley has not been so happy over the last few years. Scandal and mediocre play have marred a proud program. Still, there have been good players that stayed with the school while it has been rebuilding its program.

Like fellow Nittany Lion Christian Hackenberg, Johnson was a freshman during Bill O’Brien‘s final year at the school. So the head coach knows him pretty well. Johnson is a big guy at 6-4 and 315 pounds, has 32.38 inch arms and 9.5 inch hands.

Johnson had a very good season with 78 tackles, including 15 for loss, as well as 6.5 sacks. He did get some attention rolled away from him as teams focused primarily on Carl Nassib coming off the edge. However, some teams might be apprehensive about him because of his subpar combine and Senior Bowl performances.

When looking at Johnson on tape, there are a few things that stand out.

He has good speed for a guy his size. In fact, he returned a fumble 74 yards for a touchdown in a game against San Diego State. He gets up the field well. In the game against Ohio State, he got double teamed quite frequently and he showed that he can occupy blockers well. He diagnoses plays quickly, he can spot rollouts and screens and adjusts on the fly. Ohio State never seemed to have much success running at him.

The main negatives I saw was that he doesn’t use his hands well enough and he could get stronger. Even though I don’t take combine results with much more than a grain of salt, he did only do 25 reps on the bench press. Also in the tape against Ohio State, he did seem as if he took some plays off. A lot of this was predicated on looking at one game so take for what it is–one game.

When I watch him, the pro comparison that comes to mind is Star Lotulelei from the Carolina Panthers. The both are a little tall but have good feet, play with good effort and are quick for their size.

Verdict

As always, you never know in the draft. I think he would be a solid choice at 52, because I think he can continue to get better. Hopefully he can reverse the trend of defensive tackle failures through the draft that have been there throughout the Texans history–Travis Johnson and Amobi Okoye are the first two that come to mind there.

He’s not a finished product, but that’s what I think makes him a good pick for the Texans. He can learn for a year under Wilfork to help develop his technique and have another year to get stronger before taking on the bulk of the workload.
 
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looks like we'll be drafting based on need. same ol Rick Smith. Banking on guys and they turn out trash (or need development/attention) and get bounced out the organization. 2nd round + 3rd are very valuable picks. We should still be drafting best avail. That's how you find the diamonds in the rough.
 
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I heard Corey Coleman's name mentioned on the radio today and all I could think of was that they could probably get him in the second or even 3rd round. I just think there's easily 4 other receivers better than him to take if WR is the route they go in the first. I agree about taking the best player available at #22, regardless of position, and if it so happens to fill a need, then so be it.

Pretty interesting article detailing who the Texans had in mind other than Watt at the #11 pick that year
http://www.battleredblog.com/2016/4...-behind-the-curtain-including-who-the-houston
 
Pat would have been great too That was just a pipe dream at the 11th pick, though :lol:



Sidenote, if Nkemdiche falls in the 2nd round to us somehow, I would draft him before any of these other DTs too. We gotta find a way to corral these "character issue" guys and put them in the position to succeed. We need a Jerry Jones (2012 or later version :lol:)
 
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Looks like Battle Red doesn't agree. I'm getting nervous. I want Treadwell on our squad bad and this is feeling like Marcus Peters/Kevin Johnson again. Doctson would be a good consolation if LT is somehow gone already.

and I don't think Coleman should get drafted in the 1st unless he's on some Antonio Brown level with it
 
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Forgot to mention. Saw this episode and it made me fall in love with Treadwell more. The Sports science stuff is kinda corny sometimes, but some of that data is actually good data. Some of it is questionable. I like what they spoke on re: Treadwell/Doctson though


 
I don't give a **** what player we draft, or what position he plays, he just better be good :lol:
 
bonafide hustla said:
Pat would have been great too That was just a pipe dream at the 11th pick, though :lol:



Sidenote, if Nkemdiche falls in the 2nd round to us somehow, I would draft him before any of these other DTs too. We gotta find a way to corral these "character issue" guys and put them in the position to succeed. We need a Jerry Jones (2012 or later version :lol:)
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This :lol:
 
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