My NY nters..........does New York still have the same ambience(swag)?

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I don't know if this makes sense but is new york city still the same NYC, culturally or has the environment become more calmed down and trendy?

You know, like pissed off people fighting over cabbies. That cranky new york accented guy telling you to go **** your mother. Big rats running around, italian dudes yeling at other italian dudes on the corner. Does the city have the same bravado as it did like in the grimey 80's and 90's?

Basically any New York intro from a movie made in the 80's or 90's..........Is it still like this, or has it gone soft?

 
In some ways it remains the same, however the internet has contributed to the decline of its allure...but the people are still the same and some of that energy is still flowing through the city.
 
last i heard the Foot wasn't as active so that energy has simmered some but I'm not from there so iono
 
illphillip said:
"the internet"
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Seriously, those of us older enough to remember going or living out of town knows what it was like to be a New Yorker and visiting somewhere else, we were royalty, damn near GODS...


...then sometime around 2002'ish the internet changed everything. People could instantly view and steal everything that made New York, NEW YORK, you had dudes from Rochester and Albany in chatrooms and on webcams stealing slang, mannerisms, fashion etc. Then the rest of the world followed suit.


The internet....
 
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If "the internet" is the first thing that comes to mind when assessing what has changed NY over the last 30+ years, you need to get out more.

That's an incredibly basic and generic observation. "The internet" is not why my neighborhood changed.

And it's not even the point really. People in other cities stealing slang, mannerisms and fashion means what in terms of what actually changed NY?

All of that has been happening since YO MTV Raps, Rap City etc. anyway. It just happens easier/quicker now.

And yes, I'm "old enough to remember".
 
gentrification has changed and is changing it more than anything else. even in that old TMNT movie theres a scene where they're in the sewer talking about how it stinks extra and one of em is like "we must be under bleecker st!", obviously inferring that it was a ****** area. nowadays theres no buildings on bleecker worth less than millions.
 
illphillip said:
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If "the internet" is the first thing that comes to mind when assessing what has changed NY over the last 30+ years, you need to get out more.

 
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I stopped reading after this to be honest ...9 or 10 years ago maybe you could've gotten away with this comment. But there's hastags on billboards, subways and vinyl posters, every style BLOG has a "street style" section, even Bobby Hundred's can tell you the Hundreds has bloggers from New York to Cali providing coverage or burgeoning trends.

There's even interactive marquees in the subway to connect you online....


"Get out more"...explain to me how "getting out more" has ANYTHING to do with the internet? Where have you been, you know there's an invention called Instagram that has become the online equivalent of reality TV?

Maybe you need to "get out more", I'm out here everyday and I'm unplugged.


 
 
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Yea, you look very "unplugged" :lol:

Again, you have a very simple view of what changed NY.

You should have kept reading. You would have seen even more of the flaws in your "logic".
 
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New York has changes a lot over the past couple decades

But I don't think those changes are what caused it to loose some of "aura"

For a while New Yorkers were the gatekeepers for what was "cool". When the world became more connected it lost that.
 
Gentrification has had a huge effect on the city. You're seeing less and less mom and pop stores and more big box retailers and banks on every corner. In Midtown East by the UN there might be 10 Duane Reades in a two block radius. These individual businesses are part of what gave the city its flavor. There's a lot more to contribute, but I'll end it with this. Bloomberg, a businessman turned mayor, sold this city out to the highest bidder and turned this city into a generic one. I noticed the changes more and more when I came home from college every Summer.
 
japejapejape said:
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I heard all I needed to hear, that's part of being a New Yorker...who "gets out more", we don't entertain flawed individuals. Just ask any tourist who takes to long asking for directions or advice, or addresses us wrong.


...if he "got out more" he would've known that. The internet changed that, nowadays a tourist can use his smartphone to get answers, maybe find out what areas are safe to gentrify and what areas aren't.


See, back in the day certain people weren't allowed in certain areas unless they were buying drugs, or providing sex. This made gentrification impossible, again after 2002 and 9/11 laws and protocols everything changed as the financial epicenter was destroyed.


So again ...the internet changed everything, and you would have to have been there to know that. Dude is just talking out of his ***, talking about "get out more", he sounds stupid. There's literally no difference these days.
 
freedmind2015 said:
japejapejape said:
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I heard all I needed to hear, that's part of being a New Yorker...who "gets out more", we don't entertain flawed individuals. Just ask any tourist who takes to long asking for directions or advice, or addresses us wrong.



...if he "got out more" he would've known that. The internet changed that, nowadays a tourist can use his smartphone to get answers, maybe find out what areas are safe to gentrify and what areas aren't.



See, back in the day certain people weren't allowed in certain areas unless they were buying drugs, or providing sex. This made gentrification impossible, again after 2002 and 9/11 laws and protocols everything changed as the financial epicenter was destroyed.



So again ...the internet changed everything, and you would have to have been there to know that. Dude is just talking out of his ***, talking about "get out more", he sounds stupid. There's literally no difference these days.
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If your goal was to be NT's resident pseudo intellectual, didn't you get the gold star ages ago?

You're talking about the most inane nonsense. People in Rochester stealing slang? Tourists using smartphones? You know books and television existed once that provided the SAME Information?

After 2002 you say? Interesting that Giuliani's term ended in 2001. Because he and William Bratton may have has some effect on the city.

The city was changing LONG before the internet. The internet didn't turn Times Square into Disneyland. Weren't you there to see that?

What's funny is you go from actually saying something intelligent about post 9/11 laws and protocols and follow it with "so again....the internet". What? :lol:

So you go ahead and keep dwelling on "the internet" in all of your infinite wisdom. Yea, you sound real "unplugged" :lol:
 
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