Air Jordan 17+ Retro "Copper" - The Aftermath - NO BUYING/SELLING/TRADING

Regarding the spizikes, as stated in my OP I never claimed to have a full understanding on the basis of their price increase, I was just stating my thoughts.
Why not look at a more popular shoe like the air max 90? They were $80 in 2005 and 10 years later they are now $120, a jump of 50%.
As stated in my OP, the increase for the 17+ may be too high to blame it all on inflation and is most likely also driven by hype and demand.
I never claimed the $75+ increase in price was perfect but I feel it is an acceptable increase which is why I will be purchasing them. Would I like to pay $200 instead? Hell yeah.
And there is no sheep mentality here. Not even sure how that term even relates to my post. If this is regarding listening to Nike about the materials they are using, did they or did they not improve on quality compared to before? The decrease in quality in comparison to the OGs is not what is in question here but rather their promise to improve on the quality of the products compared to 2+ years ago. They pretty much just gave the people what they wanted along with "Nike Air". No denying they are milking the consumers for both those points but at the same time the consumers stated they were willing to pay a higher price for them.
my point is there is no use in speculating Jordan brands reasoning for price as the most probable and object conclusion is that hype and popularity drives the numbers which is why show like the 11 is the most expensive each year.
 
my point is there is no use in speculating Jordan brands reasoning for price as the most probable and object conclusion is that hype and popularity drives the numbers which is why show like the 11 is the most expensive each year.

True enough. Your OP was just an example thrown at me so I didn't really get the point behind it. I can certainly agree that hype and popularity is a big driving force in the prices but I still can't negate inflation. Everything goes up in price. People born before the 90s can only reminisce about the days when gum and chips and drinks were a quarter each.
 
Yall complaining bout the price musta not have bought them when they first came out. The retail was 200...16 years later a 50 increase is not a lot...but I guess if they come without the case n cd then maybe but cats out here paying 250 for some gimmicks on shoes yet a retro we've been begging for finally releases and the price is a problem....the logic

The original release of the 17s was a gimmick too in a way. CD, pamphlet, suitcase, and the shoe. The shoe def wasnt worth the $200 itself. You were paying for the hype around it.

On the retro we're likely to just get shoe, tissue paper, cardboard shoe trees, and box. Def aint worth 250 unless its got updated tech like the XX9... which still isnt worth 250.
 
True enough. Your OP was just an example thrown at me so I didn't really get the point behind it. I can certainly agree that hype and popularity is a big driving force in the prices but I still can't negate inflation. Everything goes up in price. People born before the 90s can only reminisce about the days when gum and chips and drinks were a quarter each.
while things go up, I think JB(Nike to be honest) has far more control over their prices than other companies. As I said the Spizikes price had not changed and I'm sure that's not all. I've heard mention of many Nike shoes that have seen a $0-$10 change since their original releases years prior. While I won't ignore inflation, I won't acknowledge it as the reason for Jordan price increases.
 
Need the college blues, not these

This.

Yeah to me the inflation/price increase is just like what's going on with the foamposites. The coppers will be a game time decision. They'll probably sit in out here in Houston anyways at least for a week or two.
 
You guys need to realize that everything will always go up in price. Cost of materials and labor will never stay the same so why should the products? Prices of materials go up such as cost of leather. Then you also have to consider the factory regulations and standards, you can be sure the factory conditions are not what they used to be after all the sweat shop controversies. Then you gotta consider the rising wages of employees on all levels. Nike is a business they have to meet a certain quota and they will never achieve that keeping prices the same. I'm no eco or bus major so this is as far as my understanding goes. Does it justify a $75 increase? Maybe not that much, but to keep shoes the same price for decades while maintains a certain level of profit is impossible.

Not to mention, JB stated last year they were going to start using higher quality material since everyone was complaining about quality and stated they were happy to pay a premium for a more premium product. Now that JB has answered that cry you guys are complaining about the price?
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I'd be willing to bet it costs them the same or even less to produce most retros than it did to make the originals. like hello, this is Nike. Cost cutting is practically their motto. The cost of materials does not factor into this price increase because they ARE NOT using the same quality material! They are not spending what it would take now days for the same quality, true "inflation". They are simply milking because they can.
 
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Anyone prefer the cover on?
I hated how it popped off in certain spots,
and I hate how it looks. I think that's why they went with the coppers. They didn't come with one right?
 
Anyone prefer the cover on?
I hated how it popped off in certain spots,
and I hate how it looks. I think that's why they went with the coppers. They didn't come with one right?

Plus' didn't have the shroud, so yes coppers didn't. Still the wizards cw, white/reds were the best 2 imo. Hoping for those 2 to retro

Far as the price nobody wants to pay 250 but I can understand why it's priced at that. Ppl that don't wanna spend that...DON'T lol. Ppl who do, enjoy em, it's been a long time coming
 
I got lows for 100 and mid for 140.. Foot locker employee discount back then
 
plain and simple the price hike is because of the popularity of their products right now, so if i start a business and sell shoes for $50 and later once the product shoots off in popularity i should still charge $50? not gunna happen but also i wouldnt downgrade my quality and still charge way over my original prices but the consumer has proven over and over again that regardless of price and quality of certain products will sellout instantly regardless so why should they change? they will only change when the demand for better quality is evident and its not at the moment. cant hate on a business flourishing because of its sheep followers, good for them i say
 
The remaster jargon is garbage, hardly anything new has actually seen any true improvements

I keep saying this. It's like when McDonalds said they would work harder to make their burgers better and look more like they do in advertisements and then you still open the Big Max box and it looks like someone sat on it.
 
If you paid full price for Jordan's back in 2000 you were an idiot because they went on sale every time after a month then hit the clearance rack a couple months after that.
well I wouldn't of know that back then now would I ?
 
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If you paid full price for Jordan's back in 2000 you were an idiot because they went on sale every time after a month then hit the clearance rack a couple months after that.

Truth. That's what also kills me about the XVII: this shoe wasn't even very popular. I get why the prices are so high on eBay (no one has them DS), but it's going to kill me to see this shoe sell for so much when it wasn't that popular to begin with!
 
I knew XVIIs were coming. The GM pairs and the sudden popularity of the shoe was a dead give away. It's a shame, I'm going to have to wait for some hipster "rap icon" or a wave of teenies to decide that XVs are "cool" just for them to get a run.

We can't sh*t on hypebeast anymore. They decide what will get released due to popular demand. We'd better be nice to the kids. They're THE ONLY REASON we're getting XVIIs.
 
I knew XVIIs were coming. The GM pairs and the sudden popularity of the shoe was a dead give away. It's a shame, I'm going to have to wait for some hipster "rap icon" or a wave of teenies to decide that XVs are "cool" just for them to get a run.



We can't sh*t on hypebeast anymore. They decide what will get released due to popular demand. We'd better be nice to the kids. They're THE ONLY REASON we're getting XVIIs.
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the 90s fad will def fade soon and attention will shift to the 2000s
 
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the only reason this shoe is popular the people who were children when the 17's released back in 2001 are now young adults that can now afford a paue since their use to buying retros for the past 14 years

the 17's will sell better in 2016 then say a release in 2010

when the 17's first came out they tanked

i still have a deadstock white/red 17's

had 2 pairs sold one last year to a niketalker for $550.00

perfect time to retro the 17's
 
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I still have these OGs in NDS condition. May have worn these once, twice max and then back into the bag. Also still have DS white base in the hard case.

When these came out they were discounted so heavily it wasn't even funny.

The shoe itself is pretty cool was designed when MJ moved to SF and was a jump shooter, needed more support vs. lighter weight.
 
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You guys need to realize that everything will always go up in price. Cost of materials and labor will never stay the same so why should the products? Prices of materials go up such as cost of leather. Then you also have to consider the factory regulations and standards, you can be sure the factory conditions are not what they used to be after all the sweat shop controversies. Then you gotta consider the rising wages of employees on all levels. Nike is a business they have to meet a certain quota and they will never achieve that keeping prices the same. I'm no eco or bus major so this is as far as my understanding goes. Does it justify a $75 increase? Maybe not that much, but to keep shoes the same price for decades while maintains a certain level of profit is impossible.

Not to mention, JB stated last year they were going to start using higher quality material since everyone was complaining about quality and stated they were happy to pay a premium for a more premium product. Now that JB has answered that cry you guys are complaining about the price? :smh:

In general I'd agree with you, however Nike's price increase is simply because they can and have for years controlled supply and demand. I'm interested to see if the last 4 releases sitting on shelves is a long term trend or temporary.

Jordan's cost under $40 landed to the U.S. For a pair of retros. USA Today posted on these years back. And while costs in China are escalating sneakers and Garmants have low labor content due to automation in factories. With all this said, Nike doesn't run a cost plus business. So if a sneaker costs $1 but everyone will pay $250 why lower your Price???

Newer sneaker technology may carry higher costs, but for most of these retros were talking +20 year old technology.
 
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