Could Ready To Die have been sequenced better?

Y'all don't agree that's cool but don't make it seem like the **** is so farfetched, especially with the **** I see some of y'all say about Pac on here. Biggie is the most overrated rapper of all time. 2 albums don't put you in the GOAT debate. Ross has a better overall body of work and we've seen him sustain his skill for about 10 years..Its time to start being real with ourselves


Funny thing is Rick Ross wouldn't even say this out of his own mouth.
 
i didnt know amount albums was the measuring stick for someone being considered the greatest and its funny you mentioned a mixtape as one of ross' classics

from a talent standpoint biggie is easily top 3, plus ross' subject matter is severely limited, you need to make a better argument than that

What's funny if it's all original work? Mixtapes not really mix tapes these days, that's another word for album now. 2 good-great projects don't make you the GOAT and we need to really stop saying that **** just because that's "what you're supposed to say", because if you really compare their work side by side from a non biased, non-nostalgic point of view, you will see Ross' career can go head up with Big's.
 
Bigs music has withstood the test of time. Ross cool & that Black Dollar mixtape was tough but other than Hustlin dude aint got no timeless songs like Big got. Plus if you put Ross best 2 projects against Bigs ONLY 2 albums im taking Biggie just saying. But i see where you coming from tho
 
Big def did alot in his short time. Ross on the other hand, i see why yall bringin him up. Im kinda old so i can vividly remember when Biggie blew up. Ross is cut from that old school kinda cloth i mean when he at his best his lyrics def Grade A. At his best he got some of the best lyrics to me outta anybody current just about. My older cousin always say "Ross shoulda came out in the 90s"
 
But having multiple albums dont mean #$%^ cuz look at Big Punisher, yall aint gon tell me he aint one of the best and u can even argue he was the best. And he really only had one album. Pun lyrics n wordplay was ridiculous. Lyrically I say Pun over Big but dig it i love both like crazy so its just my opinion but Life After Death gets bump from me on the daily
 
 
But having multiple albums dont mean #$%^ cuz look at Big Punisher, yall aint gon tell me he aint one of the best and u can even argue he was the best. And he really only had one album. Pun lyrics n wordplay was ridiculous. Lyrically I say Pun over Big but dig it i love both like crazy so its just my opinion but Life After Death gets bump from me on the daily
Was is disrepectful, his flow IS ridiculous
 
What's funny if it's all original work? Mixtapes not really mix tapes these days, that's another word for album now. 2 good-great projects don't make you the GOAT and we need to really stop saying that **** just because that's "what you're supposed to say", because if you really compare their work side by side from a non biased, non-nostalgic point of view, you will see Ross' career can go head up with Big's.
of course "ross career can go head up with biggies" because he actually had a long career

to make the argument objective and fair you have to compare ross first 2 albums to biggies first 2 albums, you cant compare ross whole body of work and say ross is better when you're comparing it to someone who died before their time
 
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of course "ross career can go head up with biggies" because he actually had a long career

to make the argument objective and fair you have to compare ross first 2 albums to biggies first 2 albums, you cant compare ross whole body of work and say ross is better when you're comparing it to someone who died before their time
I cant say he died "before his time" cuz when Big was here it was def "his time". I think if Big wouldnt had died he woulda stopped rapping n just ghost wrote heavy, then again who knows Puff coulda found somebody else he thought was hot n left Big in the dust
 
of course "ross career can go head up with biggies" because he actually had a long career

to make the argument objective and fair you have to compare ross first 2 albums to biggies first 2 albums, you cant compare ross whole body of work and say ross is better when you're comparing it to someone who died before their time

[emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji] you can't just discredit his other work because Big only put out 2 albums. That's my whole point. He was good but we didn't see him be good for long enough. We've seen Ross start off one way then reinvent himself with a whole other style. He seems to be in the process of another reinvention. Y'all might have been calling Biggie trash by 98 when cats like DMX came out.
 
Doe b is the biggie of the south tho... Said tip
 
What's funny if it's all original work? Mixtapes not really mix tapes these days, that's another word for album now. 2 good-great projects don't make you the GOAT and we need to really stop saying that **** just because that's "what you're supposed to say", because if you really compare their work side by side from a non biased, non-nostalgic point of view, you will see Ross' career can go head up with Big's.

Nah fam you just smoke crack.
 
What's funny if it's all original work? Mixtapes not really mix tapes these days, that's another word for album now. 2 good-great projects don't make you the GOAT and we need to really stop saying that **** just because that's "what you're supposed to say", because if you really compare their work side by side from a non biased, non-nostalgic point of view, you will see Ross' career can go head up with Big's.
You are Wildin man. 
 
Doe B was that dude imo, he def died before his time, smh. I kinda like Life After Death a lil more too, i feel Big was more refined on that one. Maybe because he was alot more rich but its rare ya 2nd joint is better than the 1st. I read somewhere a while ago it wasnt originally gonna be a double disc tho
 
I listened to RTD & LAD lastnight all the way through lastnight.

18 years later, there has not been an MC to do what BIG did on LAD. Ross has shown glimpses here and there "Mafia Music 2", "Tears Of Joy", "Rich Off Cocaine" etc but he hasn't CONSISTENTLY brought it on such a level.

BIG is the Moses of the coast, he paved the way for those who paved the way for Ross.

Ross is only 4 years younger than BIG and had ample opportunity to have built a career for himself while BIG was here physically, but that lane was taken, Ross couldn't carve out any space, he needed to fall back and STUDY BIG, he wasn't in a position to compete.

As far as BIG only havin 2 albums, sometimes when you're from the element you speak about in records it can cause your life to end early. Make no mistake, Ross was a cop when Biggie died.
 
I think the sequencing is fine on Ready to Die. Life After Death on the other hand could have been one amazing disc. Instead it's two discs with some really bad songs on there. I know people will argue with me on this, but it's how I feel about all the double albums that came out at that time. All Eyez on Me, Life After Death, Wu Tang Forever could have all been one classic disc, instead we just get too much.

As for the Ross comparisons going on in this thread, FOH. None of Ross's albums will even Sniff what both of Biggie's albums did.
 
BIG wasn't half the MC on RTD that he was on LAD.

The ONLY song on LAD I could live without is "Another" but even hearing BIG sing is worth it at times.

After listening to them lastnight I was gonna make a thread about how much BETTER he had gotten. He was a GREAT MC on RTD, don't get me wrong, he was GODly on LAD. No one has improved that much between albums IMO.
 
- ****** bleed
- ten crack commandments
- juicy
- notorious thugs
- any Big track

Better than anything coming out in terms of longevity and creativity...
 
Top 15 Rozay tracks vs Top 15 Big Tracks, the nod would go to Ross. Dead serious.

Mafia Music
Rich Forever
Magnificent
Mafia Music 2
BMF
Rich off Cocaine
Luxury Tax
Valley of Death
Tears of Joy
Cigar Music
Maybach Music 2
Live Fast Die young
Here I am
Yellow Diamonds
Amsterdam
10 Jesus Pieces
Usual suspects

That's more than 15 off the top and I can keep going with more, you can't give me 15 biggie tracks that are overall better than that list
 
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