How a single mother survives on $7.50/hr

I'm saying that is much easier for you guys to whine about the 7.50$ an hour than to acknowledge she only works 20 hours a week....that's barely 3 out of the 7 days of the week, plenty time to search for another job....OR maybe enroll in school to better herself....

Nahhhhhhh she deserves to get paid more, that's all there is to itx

:lol: You lying. That post was about poor people and the luxury high rise supposedly being built. It didn't have **** to do with girl in the story.

But anyway, I acknowledged that she only works 20 hours. What does her only working 20 hours have to do with her low wage?
And YES, she does deserve to be paid more.

And being able to work smart comes from having access to people who have done it all before. Unfortunately because of the way this country was set up for such a long time The majority of African Americans didnt have generations to figure out how to gain and sustain wealth for their future generations.

The older African American generation did figure out how to sustain wealth. Unfortunately, the evils of this country destroyed everything they built.
 
Hence my original statement about you being content with being a paid slave. It's all good I respect or some people just want different things.

So what you doing that's different bruh?

How you better than me?
I never said better than you :lol: I said people want different things in life. I wouldn't walk through the sewer like you. You call it spoiled I call it not being treated like a human.

I would never work 3 jobs. To pay for a house, cable, electric, gas, etc that I'm barely in? That's not living to me.
 
This issue is not exclusive to African Americans...
Never said it was. She's African American so that's why I specified.

I'm not saying personal choices and such don't matter as a whole. But there's a whole lot more at play keeping her and people like her at the same exact spot she is. America would be a completely different place for all races if everyone had access too quality education both lower and higher for as long as white people have. Think she would be in the same place if her great great grand father wasn't taught that education wasn't for blacks? Not that education is the only factor
 
I never said better than you :lol: I said people want different things in life. I wouldn't walk through the sewer like you. You call it spoiled I call it not being treated like a human.

I would never work 3 jobs. To pay for a house, cable, electric, gas, etc that I'm barely in? That's not living to me.

I practically work 3 jobs, I don't sleep much, but I love the life I'm able to afford because of the jobs that I work....beats making some sob video about how I have to pay out of pocket for something like Invitro for a chance at a family when if I made less money the government could give me a hand with it and even help me raise the kid once is born....yeah perhaps we are different...
 
Never said it was. She's African American so that's why I specified.

I'm not saying personal choices and such don't matter as a whole. But there's a whole lot more at play keeping her and people like her at the same exact spot she is. America would be a completely different place for all races if everyone had access too quality education both lower and higher for as long as white people have. Think she would be in the same place if her great great grand father wasn't taught that education wasn't for blacks? Not that education is the only factor

Not all white people live lavish or work "smart" just how not all black people are oppressed financially...but you know what...I don't even want to engage in race talk...I'm not black so my opinion means 0
 
Not all white people live lavish or work "smart" just how not all black people are oppressed financially...but you know what...I don't even want to engage in race talk...I'm not black so my opinion means 0

I never implied all white people were living lavishly. I'm just saying that as a race they've had far more time learn and make mistakes unhindered and then pass down that knowledge. It's a snow ball effect. Most people of color weren't afforded that luxury
 
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I never said better than you :lol: I said people want different things in life. I wouldn't walk through the sewer like you. You call it spoiled I call it not being treated like a human.

I would never work 3 jobs. To pay for a house, cable, electric, gas, etc that I'm barely in? That's not living to me.

I practically work 3 jobs, I don't sleep much, but I love the life I'm able to afford because of the jobs that I work....beats making some sob video about how I have to pay out of pocket for something like Invitro for a chance at a family when if I made less money the government could give me a hand with it and even help me raise the kid once is born....yeah perhaps we are different...
Yeah we different bro, I love my sleep.

Crazy thing is I'm considered middle class but I grew up poor. Not now or then did I ever think my parents didn't work hard enough and maybe that's what I'm not understanding from you. You have this mentality that if you work hard then success is inevitable and that's not true.There are people who work however many hours you deem as 'working hard' and still die poor. You think because YOU did it that everybody can do it too, thinking is way too close minded.
 
Yeah we different bro, I love my sleep.

Crazy thing is I'm considered middle class but I grew up poor. Not now or then did I ever think my parents didn't work hard enough and maybe that's what I'm not understanding from you. You have this mentality that if you work hard then success is inevitable and that's not true.There are people who work however many hours you deem as 'working hard' and still die poor. You think because YOU did it that everybody can do it too, thinking is way too close minded.

Success isn't measure by money for me, at least not just money, my mother or I didn't make it, but to me my mother is a success story....she came here alone, with no one to rely on, she worked her whole life since the age of 15 her whole family, brothers and mother depend on her, she somehow manage to offer me what I consider a good life and most of all an opportunity....she didn't make us rich or even close to that, but she's a success.

As long as you show a good work ethic you are a success in my book....hosting a pitty party, miss me with all that, not in America FOH.
 
 
 
I never said better than you
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I said people want different things in life. I wouldn't walk through the sewer like you. You call it spoiled I call it not being treated like a human.

I would never work 3 jobs. To pay for a house, cable, electric, gas, etc that I'm barely in? That's not living to me.
I practically work 3 jobs, I don't sleep much, but I love the life I'm able to afford because of the jobs that I work....beats making some sob video about how I have to pay out of pocket for something like Invitro for a chance at a family when if I made less money the government could give me a hand with it and even help me raise the kid once is born....yeah perhaps we are different...
Yeah we different bro, I love my sleep.

Crazy thing is I'm considered middle class but I grew up poor. Not now or then did I ever think my parents didn't work hard enough and maybe that's what I'm not understanding from you. You have this mentality that if you work hard then success is inevitable and that's not true.There are people who work however many hours you deem as 'working hard' and still die poor. You think because YOU did it that everybody can do it too, thinking is way too close minded.
you can work 80 hours a week and its possible that you wont be successful

but if you're already poor and you dont want to put in the extra work because you're scared of the chance that you might fail then you have a 0% chance of being successful

a possibility of losing is not an excuse to not play the game 
 
I think the problem here is that people are trying to argue for or against a living wage based on this girl as the only example.

Yeah I think this is why....I can't pitty this woman who obviously makes poor choices, working 20 hours a week at the age of 22...

However there are people out there grinding 50+ hours a week and barely making ends meet, I can sympathize with those people.
 
you can work 80 hours a week and its possible that you wont be successful

but if you're already poor and you dont want to put in the extra work because you're scared of the chance that you might fail then you have a 0% chance of being successful

a possibility of losing is not an excuse to not play the game 

:pimp: you get it sir.
 
And being able to work smart comes from having access to people who have done it all before. Unfortunately because of the way this country was set up for such a long time The majority of African Americans didnt have generations to figure out how to gain and sustain wealth for their future generations. And people like her are the product of that. Reliant on the government

Mansa Musa would like to have a word with you!
 
Mansa Musa would like to have a word with you!
not saying that blacks weren't successful in the past, pre America. History definitely that says that not true. But what I am saying is that in American African Americans haven't had access to to quality education as long as others have.
 
I was suspended when I came across this thread and it absolutely blew my mind with some of the things that were being said to disparage her and poor people. I'll never understand why immigrants look down on the poor in this country especially Black Americans and consider them lazy and uninspired. Institutionalized racism in the form of redlining, housing discrimination, educational barriers have had profound effects on this group of people. Just because America isn't the third world hellhole your parents came from means that people can't struggle and face obstacles? Some of you who have this view were likely anchor babies that allowed your parents to mooch off of government benefits like this woman you're putting down while they found a way to make a better life for themselves.

Did she make bad choices in her life? Yes. Having a child with a felon who left you a single mother was one that is going to effect her for 18+ years. I do believe she should strive to eventually get off of assistance, but at her current state that isn't possible. To those who say she needs to work more hours, if she earned more than $400 a week, she can lose everything. I don't think some of you understand how destitute you have to be to be eligible for help. I do understand the attitude that some of you have because I do see people abuse these benefits. I do see generation upon generation in public housing when it wasn't meant for that. It is very easy to game the system. I saw someone say she should get an education with loans. What loans is she going to be eligible for? She's 22 with no money and likely little to no credit. The only loans that she'll be eligible for are the near criminal payday loans which have interest rates that are insane (100%+ in most instances).

Then you have posts that say people who are out of work for a long time have no excuse. For people like KSteezy who was working since he came out the womb, 2008 changed the game forever. When all of those people lost their jobs, a lot of them were older people who have been forced out of the job market and essentially phased out because of their age which is another form of discrimination but it happens. Obamacare further put a damper on employment because employers aren't offering full-time jobs like they did prior. We've become a nation of freelance/contract and part-time workers as a result. Even fast food workers have been harmed by the employer mandate in Obamacare as seen by Five Guys being one of over 300 employers nationwide who have done so. Wal-Mart has also followed suit. You live in this bubble in which you think everyone should be like you or have the same experiences as you. Everyone can't afford to subsidize their wife's laziness and unwillingness to work while she explores herself.
 
I was suspended when I came across this thread and it absolutely blew my mind with some of the things that were being said to disparage her and poor people. I'll never understand why immigrants look down on the poor in this country especially Black Americans and consider them lazy and uninspired. Institutionalized racism in the form of redlining, housing discrimination, educational barriers have had profound effects on this group of people. Just because America isn't the third world hellhole your parents came from means that people can't struggle and face obstacles? Some of you who have this view were likely anchor babies that allowed your parents to mooch off of government benefits like this woman you're putting down while they found a way to make a better life for themselves.

Did she make bad choices in her life? Yes. Having a child with a felon who left you a single mother was one that is going to effect her for 18+ years. I do believe she should strive to eventually get off of assistance, but at her current state that isn't possible. To those who say she needs to work more hours, if she earned more than $400 a week, she can lose everything. I don't think some of you understand how destitute you have to be to be eligible for help. I do understand the attitude that some of you have because I do see people abuse these benefits. I do see generation upon generation in public housing when it wasn't meant for that. It is very easy to game the system. I saw someone say she should get an education with loans. What loans is she going to be eligible for? She's 22 with no money and likely little to no credit. The only loans that she'll be eligible for are the near criminal payday loans which have interest rates that are insane (100%+ in most instances).

Then you have posts that say people who are out of work for a long time have no excuse. For people like KSteezy who was working since he came out the womb, 2008 changed the game forever. When all of those people lost their jobs, a lot of them were older people who have been forced out of the job market and essentially phased out because of their age which is another form of discrimination but it happens. Obamacare further put a damper on employment because employers aren't offering full-time jobs like they did prior. We've become a nation of freelance/contract and part-time workers as a result. Even fast food workers have been harmed by the employer mandate in Obamacare as seen by Five Guys being one of over 300 employers nationwide who have done so. Wal-Mart has also followed suit. You live in this bubble in which you think everyone should be like you or have the same experiences as you. Everyone can't afford to subsidize their wife's laziness and unwillingness to work while she explores herself.
 
yall complaining about wage but you realize that if you double minimum wage, inflation will double as well and then you'll be in the same situation as now? like the economy can't just handle wages jumping up double because you know as well as i do that if mcdonalds doubles their minimum wage, the execs aren't taking that hit to their salary, they are passing off that cost to the customers. most businesses are like that. you just can't double wages and expect cost of living to stay equal. i'm sleep doe :rolleyes
 
yall complaining about wage but you realize that if you double minimum wage, inflation will double as well and then you'll be in the same situation as now? like the economy can't just handle wages jumping up double because you know as well as i do that if mcdonalds doubles their minimum wage, the execs aren't taking that hit to their salary, they are passing off that cost to the customers. most businesses are like that. you just can't double wages and expect cost of living to stay equal. i'm sleep doe
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cost of living and inflation has been going up forever and havent affected minimum wages . if minimum wage kept up with inflation it would be more then 15$ an hour already. what you are saying is false. 

"But $9 an hour is still a far cry from what workers really deserve, a 2012 study finds. The minimum wage  should have reached $21.72 an hour in 2012 if   it kept up   with increases in worker productivity, according to a March study by the Center for Economic and Policy Research"
 
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Exactly inflation has gone up regardless while the Min Wage has remained the same. When you raise the min wage, you're giving the economy a boost because the more money in people's pockets, the more money they spend. Yes the price of goods will go up but it's been going up anyways.

Yes raising the min wage won't solve all the problems but it will help give or take about a million people from getting out of poverty and off Govt assistance.
 
yall complaining about wage but you realize that if you double minimum wage, inflation will double as well and then you'll be in the same situation as now? like the economy can't just handle wages jumping up double because you know as well as i do that if mcdonalds doubles their minimum wage, the execs aren't taking that hit to their salary, they are passing off that cost to the customers. most businesses are like that. you just can't double wages and expect cost of living to stay equal. i'm sleep doe :rolleyes
cost of living and inflation has been going up forever and havent affected minimum wages . if minimum wage kept up with inflation it would be more then 15$ an hour already. what you are saying is false. 

i know how things have been going? just because that's how its been this long, doesn't mean that a change in minimum wage would have no impact on inflation. inflation (hard to control) does not impact minimum wage (easy to control) but minimum wage is a huge driver of inflation. and in order to have the purchasing power of the 80s, minimum wage would only be ~$11 still, not $15
 
Exactly inflation has gone up regardless while the Min Wage has remained the same. When you raise the min wage, you're giving the economy a boost because the more money in people's pockets, the more money they spend. Yes the price of goods will go up but it's been going up anyways.

Yes raising the min wage won't solve all the problems but it will help give or take about a million people from getting out of poverty and off Govt assistance.

it would help in the short term. inflation will continue to rise either way but at different rates. inflation has been basically flat this year but you can guarantee that if you raise minimum wage, inflation wouldn't be even near flat anymore.
 
Costs will go up due to companies trying to make up the difference. When you making $4XXbillion in sales annually, you can afford to raise wages. Costs will go up in order to adjust to the new wages, but it won't go up to to the point where it completely wipes out the extra income gained from increased wages, if anything, the raising the min wage to $10/hr - for inflation, the real wage would be considered around $9.25/hr. After a quarter or two, the increased wages and prices will be the norm so it wouldn't be to out of the ordinary.

(Disclaimer: My numbers are based off of an pure example for illustration. I, in no way, have the statistical analysis to back up the wage numbers that I've used.)
 
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