CLEVELAND CAVALIERS 2016 NBA CHAMPIONS THREAD

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I read it was black too - and it looked grey at the presentation.

Blue would be better. Sleeves are stupid though.
 
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#Cavs will release former Duke PG Quinn Cook, league source informs @Clevelanddotcom. Jared Cunningham to earn 15th and final roster spot.



ima with kdawg, dont dig the sleeves



roster set.......



3 more days
 
me too FF, he was great in the pre season and is a welcome addition, i like him more than q cook fwiw,and kinda cool he was orig drafted by Clev when he came outta ore st. he also has a strong kicks game :D



will TT get bood 1st game at The Q ????
 
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Probably not... like I said I feel like if it would've dragged into the season it would have been bad for him.

Think the fans don't care at this point... just glad its over.
 
from Craig Lyndall / WFNY No Losers In Cavs/TT Deal


My dad has always taught me that good deals work well for everyone. As the Cleveland Cavaliers made their way through and ultimately finished the negotiation with Tristan Thompson and his representatives, I’ve seen some try to identify the winners and losers in the deal. Isn’t it possible that this truly is a good deal for everyone and they’re all winners? That’s the way I look at it. Here’s how everyone came out a winner in my book.

Why the Cleveland Cavaliers front office won

The Cleveland Cavaliers definitely won this negotiation. In some circles it will be thought that the Cavs front office overpaid and that Dan Gilbert’s luxury tax bill is exploding as a result. That ignores just how much the Cavaliers need Tristan Thompson. It also ignores the fact that Thompson is presumed to still be improving at the young age of 24. Signing a young player on a forward-looking basis is a much better use of money than to spend on a guy whose best days are in the rear view mirror. Ask the Cleveland Indians. Speaking of the rear view mirror, another reason the Cavs can be viewed as winners is because of their aging superstar, LeBron James.

James won’t be able to play forever and if you have to really look at the window of opportunity, the Cavaliers are locked up with great complimentary pieces for the next five years. Kevin Love, Kyrie Irving, and now Tristan Thompson are all set to be free agents in 2020. To a smaller degree, Iman Shumpert is set to be a free agent in 2019. That’s a hell of a baseline for a basketball team that features LeBron James, and it should be good enough to keep him coming back as long as he’s able to keep playing on year-to-year deals.

The Cavaliers also won because they locked up all three of their younger stars in 2015 dollars. With a known inflation period ahead in terms of salary caps, the league will look at the deals signed by these three stars as bargains soon. Obviously this assumes they all continue to play good to great basketball, but that’s the presumption whenever you sign any deal. In a league where Bill Simmons has been dead on over the years when he says “four quarters don’t always make a dollar,” the Cavaliers have three and maybe four dollars (stars) in their pocket. Even if they “overpaid” for one of them, you can’t tell me that the Cavaliers would be better off with two players of lesser value than Tristan Thompson. And the salary cap realities are such that the Cavaliers had no choice to spend the Thompson money elsewhere. It was Thompson or a platter of D-league options. Yes, it cost the Cavaliers a lot of money, but should they achieve their championship goals, it will all be worth it.

The last way the Cavaliers won is because they now have what Chris Grant would infuriatingly refer to as “assets.” Should the Cavaliers need to make a move down the road or change the face of their team for whatever reason, you can’t tell me that Tristan Thompson’s contract won’t be mobile. If the Cavaliers need to trade for someone else’s underperforming player to gain a draft pick there’s always a chance that the Cavs can match that with something like Tristan Thompson’s contract. I wouldn’t look forward to something like that, but my point is that Thompson’s contract isn’t some deadly poison pill that some fans make it out to be.

Why Tristan Thompson won

There are 82 million reasons why Tristan Thompson won this negotiation, but money isn’t the only reason. Thompson has an atypical skillset — albeit a valuable one — and he was compensated handsomely. Even more, just in terms of the negotiation, Thompson played a strong hand with his agents and didn’t really feel any ill effects from the tactics.

Thompson didn’t have to play a year on the much smaller qualifying offer. He gets to continue to play in a very good situation with LeBron James, Kevin Love, and Kyrie Irving with little to no pressure when it comes to “carrying” a team. To be a complimentary player — comfortable with the role you’ve been given — and compensated like an All-Star is about as perfect a situation for any professional athlete.

Why Rich Paul won

Out of all the stakeholders in this negotiation, I’ve heard Rich Paul described as the loser, but I’m not buying it. Paul, Thompson’s agent, did play a strong hand and appeared poised to play hardball for the full $94 million max-level deal. He threatened to sign the qualifying offer and then guide Tristan Thompson out of Cleveland at the conclusion of that one-year deal. In the end, all that posturing and bulldogging got him just an extra $2 million for a pretty public negotiation and an ugly holdout that risked his client’s reputation with fans. That’s a really short-term view of the situation, however.

In the long term, Rich Paul will look pretty good. He and his agency took an atypically valuable player, whose metrics don’t always show up easily in a box score, and got him $16.4 million on average per season. He also kept a player in a situation that he wanted to be in playing with LeBron James for the foreseeable future. And remember: Paul and Thompson turned down a four-year, $52 million offer back in January. I have yet to read the book where getting an additional $30 million equates to a loss. Regardless of how they got there, it’s hard to look at the results in terms of compensation for Tristan Thompson and think that it will be anything other than a positive note on the Klutch Sports Group Wikipedia page.

Why Cavalier fans won

Despite going through the ups and downs of this negotiation, this offseason was a really good one for Cavs fans. Kevin Love defied the rumor mongers and signed with the Cavaliers right away. Kyrie Irving is starting to regain his health. The Cavaliers brought back J.R. Smith and Iman Shumpert, the former on less money than his initial offer. Hell, I keep forgetting that the Cavaliers got Richard Jefferson despite the fact that he dunked his arrival in everyone’s faces.

Tristan Thompson signing without missing any regular season action is a satisfying finish to the offseason for Cavaliers. The team will have some adversity and it’s going to be a long regular season, but the Cavs come back with all their pieces, a year of experience back in the spotlight, and a better understanding of the task of getting to the playoffs to make a run. Even though the Cavs fans haven’t won anything yet, they too are winners in the Tristan Thompson negotiation.

As I said in the opening, that’s the true sign that this was a good deal for everyone. Everyone won.
 
In 24 hours we will be 1-0 or 0-1.

this counts too.

This is real and is happening...

HOLY ****

I am so hype

TOMORROW NIGHT!!!


Got the black sleeved Bron and the warm up jacket today at the team shop :pimp:
 
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Let's get it fellas, Bron plays today, rest him tomorrow, so he can play the home opener, paid too much money for him not to play the home opener lol
 
Not a bad first game. Both teams looked pretty sloppy.

Love :pimp:

came alive at the end.

Should've had Jefferson or someone taller than Mo throwing in the ball.

Oh well.

Back at it tomorrow night!
 
Good game, we look good for our first game. Mo love him some reg season, i still would not of had him throw the ball in tho.

Rest Bron for tomorrow, we gonna be dangerous once we make our late season run into the playoffs
 





personally i liked what i saw last night for the most part


it really is amazing what a difference having K Love on the floor is in comparison to when he is not



lookin forward to tonight, i like playin these heavy hitters, tons more fun



#HARDWORKTOGETHER
 
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Yeah, KLove is looking great - he looks more mobile than last year.

So far 8 rebounds in less then 8 minutes!
 
Great game today.

Dominant performance.

Man we are scary when clicking and one Kyrie/Shump come back :wow: :smh: :x

Awesome W tonight!!

HOME OPENER FRIDAY!!!!

anyone going?

Still on the fence gonna score some tickets tomorrow and hopefully I am there.
 
Great win last night, love seeing K Love get the ball in different spots.

I'll be at the game FF, ended up scoring some super nice seats, on the floor right behind the cavs bench, I'll be yelling nonsense to the team all game haha
 
HOW TO ENJOY THIS LONG CLEVELAND CAVALIERS REGULAR SEASON by Craig Lyndall WFNY


The most difficult part of this long regular season for the Cleveland Cavaliers will be ignoring distractions and just enjoying this great team. The team has a year of ignoring negative narratives and distractions on their collective resume whether we’re talking about Kevin Love fitting in or David Blatt keeping his job, but each year brings a new round of potential landmines.

You can already see some of them coming, so it’s important to get out in front of some of these before they even happen. Knowing what’s coming and being prepared to deal with it or ignore it will only enhance your enjoyment of the 2015-16 Cleveland Cavaliers. And really, that’s what we’re all about.

The Cavs should trade ______________.

The early favorite for this rumor is Tristan Thompson. Per the NBA’s Collective Bargaining Agreement, sign-and-trade potential evaporated once the Cavaliers played their first game. Furthermore, a team cannot trade a free agent it has signed for three months after the deal is agreed upon. But don’t let that stop Twitter or message board folks who don’t want to research before spouting off. We live in a fantasy sports culture now and especially in the NBA with ESPN’s Trade Machine, you get a lot of junior GMs trying their hand at team-building.

In the case of the Cavaliers it’s hard to imagine a better set of players and depth on the roster. That doesn’t mean that the Cavaliers won’t make a trade or do some things, but the chances that they’ll choose to do wholesale revisions to a roster that includes LeBron James, Kevin Love, Kyrie Irving, and Thompson by trading a glue guy like Thompson is pretty ludicrous. You just know when the already rampant Carmelo Anthony trade rumors fire up into the raging inferno they’ll undoubtedly be, that someone will write the “CARMELO ANTHONY TRADED TO CLEVELAND TO WIN A TITLE WITH HIS BUDDY LEBRON JAMES???” headline.

The Cavs are better without ______________!!!

We’ve seen these kinds of stories for years whenever star players miss time. Undoubtedly this article is being schemed already with Kyrie Irving missing the start to the season and Mo Williams fueling a Cavs team that appears to be moving the ball well very early in this NBA season. Hell, I’m a little bit scared that something might have been written on this very website suggesting the Cavaliers were playing better at various times with Kyrie missing before LeBron James came back. And look, those were dark times. We were all very desperate for solutions, but we need to learn.

The Cavaliers aren’t “better off” without great basketball players. There’s a lot ot be said for teamwork and chemistry, of course, but those things are generally gained with time spent playing together. There are awkward moments when guys first get back and rotations get disrupted. Sometimes weird things happen when a guy has to sit down and the role players step up and play out of their minds for a game. The right bet is always on the most talented players, so don’t get caught up when the margin of victory for the Cavaliers is higher in games that LeBron rests this season than the games he plays.

Did you read the quotes from ______________ after last night’s game?

Something we remembered last year as Cavs fans became reaquainted with relevance was what it was like to have the NBA media world hanging on every word LeBron James said after each and every NBA game and practice. The NFL has an advantage in creating popularity because there’s some scarcity. MLB has the reverse problem because there’s too little scarcity. The NBA is more like MLB where we don’t need quotes from LeBron James and his teammates as often as we get them. The perspective on something LeBron says after Game 15 gets remembered, dissected, extrapolated and otherwise skewed to the point that there’s no pulse left in the flatlined patient named “reality.”

LeBron says Kevin Love will be the focal point? Cool. That’s fine. It doesn’t mean LeBron believes in Kevin Love more than Kyrie Irving. It doesn’t mean that the Cavs don’t need Kyrie Irving. It also doesn’t mean that LeBron is ceding control of the team or otherwise giving up preference for game-winning shooting opportunities. Don’t try too hard to find more meaning to it than what is there.

The Cavaliers’ record against ___________ spells bad things for the playoffs!

LeBron tried to teach or remind us that the regular season has nothing to do with the playoffs and after last year’s deep run to the Finals—we should know or remember. The Playoffs are a different sport than the NBA regular season. Despite what happens on a random December night in whatever contending team’s basketball arena, it can’t be assumed to portend great or awful things about the Cavaliers as they contend in the playoffs.

We know that by the time the Cavs get to the postseason they will treat each series separately with some kind of strategy. Did anything the Cavaliers did in the regular season indicated that in the Finals the Cavaliers would grind it out with Delly playing meaningful defensive minutes for the Cavs? Did the Cavs’ one win in four games against the Atlanta Hawks paint a meaningful portrait of how the series would ultimately go? The Cavs swept the Hawks.

I’m sure there are plenty more, so leave them in the comments. And remember this isn’t me talking down to you. This is a reminder for myself as well. We’re all prone to getting caught up in the ups and downs of a marathon season with all the overstated quotes and performances therein. These are things you and I both know about this long season, so keep them top of mind. That’s your best path to enjoying what should be an entertaining year without allowing it to get ruined by the “reality TV” stuff that threatens all the enjoyment of having one of the best NBA teams ever assembled.

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The bench looks SO SO much better than last year its almost scary. like FF said R Jefferson is already lookin like he is in medseason form, and I gotta tell y'all I AM A BIG BIG Cunningham fan, BIG !!



Have a grrat time at the opener Killer J and FF if it works out for ya




#HARDWORKTOGETHER
 
FinallyFamous said:
and what about Richard Jefferson? my man looking better than Miller and Marion combined last year.
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I wasn't a fan of his a few years ago - but he's a great fit for 8-10 minutes a game.

His tattoo is a shocker though.
 
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thekillerj23 said:
Great win last night, love seeing K Love get the ball in different spots.

I'll be at the game FF, ended up scoring some super nice seats, on the floor right behind the cavs bench, I'll be yelling nonsense to the team all game haha
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I WILL BE AT THE GAME TOO MY MAN!!!

Can't wait.


kdawg said:
I wasn't a fan of his a few years ago - but he's a great fit for 8-10 minutes a game.

His tattoo is a shocker though.
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Haha yeah that tat is horrific and I remember when we were going get him from Utah I think 2 years ago... or was it last?

Think 2... and I remember you not liking it :lol:

Glad we got him on the low, and so far so good.
 
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