Originally Posted by LOBCITY
A lot of people don't realize most of the biggest artists right now. Have heavy east influence/style / flow / rhyme patterns./beat selection.
Kanye ,Wayne,Drake,The Game,Rick Ross , J Cole.Kendrick.Royce,2 chainz, Big Sean etc
All these guys are East Coast rappers, but happen to be from other regions and mix in local sounds on their albums.
All those guys are 80s and 70s babies, only 3 are under 30 NY was the dominant force in hip-hop, damn near 85% of hip-hop was coming out of NY at that point, so I don't really see that as being surprising, even though I don't necessarily agree with the statement 100% but I do see some of what you're saying. But as far as subject matter is concerned I would say the majority of them were more influenced by the west.
Originally Posted by Magic1978
I never said Troy Ave was a good rapper or released a classic though. He is what he is. Entertainment. Not everyone has to be Nas.
And what is all this Independence you speak of when they are on majors? Jay Rock took how long to come out with an album. Why? If they were independent as you claim they would be putting out projects every year or when they wanted to.
And no, other regions don't have higher standards. We're beyond that in rap now. In the south you can be Phonte or Jay Electronica. But in New York, you can't be like anyone from another region.
And all of them are allowed to just rap and not told you're trying to be like you're from New York or you're too lyrical.
There's a big double standard when it comes to New York rappers.
How many Future clones do you have? It's practically it's own genre now. The time Fetty Wap(Jersey) does it. Why is he acting like Future. Meanwhile Ty $ and Kirko Bangz...nothing.
You're doubting the validity of TDE's independence? Kendrick and Q have situations with Interscope but Rock is independent, so because he took 4 years to drop his sophomore album that doesn't mean the fact remains? He explained it on Breakfast Club, he was dealing with REAL life.
Where are the NY independent acts making noise?
As far as this regional double standard does Action not sound like Ghost? Did Wu not sound like the UMCs? Was NaS not a Rakim x G Rap hybrid? Kane DNA is all over Jay. So it's not even an originality thing, it's actually being good.
You're judging Rock and YG on a Ras Kass or Cube standard but you want Troy Ave to be graded on a curve? But you not giving BETTER artists from more competitive regions that same benefit.
Other regions have standards they just base it on actual MUSIC and not solely lyrical ability. That's what NY has always based it's greatness on but it's STILL MUSIC, and not a poetry slam. It's a culmination of elements that play a factor and for years we've been focused on one