Originally Posted by Trill Nimley
NY needs talent and a memory.
Remember in 1998, the west coast for all intents and purposes was dead in the water. Kurupt solo was a disappointment. Daz as well. Mr Short Khop? If you even remember him, you get my drift. There was a lack of NEW talent, bad business had ruined Ruthless and Death Row along with untimely deaths.
Fast forward to 2005, when The Game's debut dropped the west had been nonexistent as far as new blood was concerned. How did Game make it? He was fortunate to be signed to Dr Dre but that's no guarantee of success or even seeing a release date it was his alignment with 50 Cent/G Unit that legitimized him. He also was affiliated with Dip Set the other dominant crew in NY at the time. He was on mixtape after mixtape, this is after getting on with JT in the Bay.
So if we seen the west die and be resurrected why the hell is it not happening here? There is no conspiracy against New York hip-hop, from the streets to the offices, they want a NY artist to win. There's been millions wasted in the past 10 years to do just that, the ELITE level of talent that once existed in NY is no more. Let me elaborate on this for a sec.
I was chillin, Listenin to some of my fav joints and videos, so I watched "The Return Of The Crooklyn Dodgers", an AMAZING record to this day, subject matter as relevant today as it was 20 years ago when it came out. I say that to say this, as talented as the 3 MCs on the record are, they were middle of the pack in 90s NY hip-hop. Either of the 3 is head and shoulders more talented than ANYone that has come out in the past 15 years in hip-hop. THAT is how much talent was coming out of NY at the time. That isn't happening now. There is no Jeru just playing the sidelines because there's a BIG, NaS, Prodigy or Raekwon dominating. There's no O.C. just being slept on while as good as anyone from anywhere. There's no Rapper who was hot 7 years, and about 2-3 rap generations ago coming out and damn near stealing the show on a crew record like Chubb Rock did.
Essentially Game did with the Documentary what BIG did with 'Life After Death', he laid a blueprint to how to recreate a sound and give it universal appeal. In comparison to the very west coast 'Doctors Advocate', Documentary sounds almost regionally ambiguous for about 70% of the album and that's why Game remains a fan favorite in NY to this day, he made their themes appealing to those that haven't necessarily been introduced to that style of living. 10 years later he can still have private viewings in NY, hit every radio station in the city and he has a relationship with damn near every major DJ on the coast.
To this day Game still pays homage to NY. He sampled BIG on his new album. You have Ross from Miami sample BIG on 'Mastermind'. Schoolboy Q has some very NY sounding tracks on his debut. Nipsey Hussle sampled Diplomats on 'Crenshaw'. They are using that blueprint that Game laid in 05 which is more or less a west coast incarnation of what 50 Cent did, so why can't it be replicated in NY? It's being done in other regions, look at Jay Electronica.
It's the lack of talent. Game isn't the most talented MC, but he loves the culture and gives a Hell of an effort and has an ear for beats. None of those I would describe as GOD given gifts, just an ability to tell a good idea from a bad one.
So instead of copying Mobb Deep, Wu or Boot Camp New NY hip-hop artist should be studying The Documentary, Life After Death and GRODT.
And come with a lil talent as well. The example has played out in front of us.
Games success opened the door for the YGs, Problem, Dom, All them Ns that make straight WEST coast music because he made the industry put a spotlight on the city. He's like the Moses of the west. And he's not supremely talented by any stretch. You mean to tell me NY cant produce a Game?
And lack of talent is the issue here? Y'all ain't lookin at the same NY I'm in.